USSR invades Ukraine. (8 Viewers)

[Sick Boy]

Not really about this but Putin and the Chinese leader have been picked up on a hotmike discussing organ transplats and immortality, fascinating..

I read that and thought it was satire at first!

 

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[eastwoodsdustman]

Poland has shot down numerous drones in their airspace and a few airports shut.
Appeasement of Putin just emboldens him.

 

[duffer]

Poland has shot down numerous drones in their airspace and a few airports shut.
Appeasement of Putin just emboldens him.

Surely this legitimises NATO, or at least western Europe (Trump obviously being Putin's poodle) providing a more effective air deterrence across Ukraine?

In effect, creating a no fly zone over everything east of the front lines could now be justified as self defence for Poland, and would also give the civilian population of Ukraine respite from endless attacks.

If every now and then something accidentally slipped over the front line and destroyed a Russian position on Ukrainian soil, well, like Putin will claim, mistakes happen.

 

[Sick Boy]

And the 'strongman' lets yet another deadline pass.

 

[SkyBlueCharlie9]

Wonder what @SkyBlueDom26 thinks about the Putin drones penetrating Polish airspace ?
Surely time for NATO seek a no fly zone over Ukraine?

 

[PVA]

Intrigued to see how the man who says 'the war would never have started under my watch' tries to explain Russia escalating and attacking another country.

 

[PVA]

Poland have triggered Article 4 of the Nato treaty.

 

[chiefdave]

So much for the theory that Putin would be happy with Ukraine and was no danger to anywhere else

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

So much for the theory that Putin would be happy with Ukraine and was no danger to anywhere else

Poles are built different, they would wipe the floor with Russia

 

[Grendel]

So much for the theory that Putin would be happy with Ukraine and was no danger to anywhere else

There isn’t any danger

 

[chiefdave]

Poles are built different, they would wipe the floor with Russia

Still probably preferable that we don't get to the point where we have to find out if that is true.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Poles are built different, they would wipe the floor with Russia

If Russia went in with everything it had Poland would need NATO’s help. As Ukraine does currently

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

If Russia went in with everything it had Poland would need NATO’s help. As Ukraine does currently

Poland would take Russia on

 

[PVA]

If Russia went in with everything it had Poland would need NATO’s help. As Ukraine does currently

Pre 2022 yes definitely, but if Russia tried to invade Poland now (whilst still in Ukraine) they'd get kicked out pretty quickly I think.

 

[eastwoodsdustman]

If Russia went in with everything it had Poland would need NATO’s help. As Ukraine does currently

They couldn't do both at the same time. They would end up losing on both fronts.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

They couldn't do both at the same time. They would end up losing on both fronts.

I assume it’s because they’re expecting a deal with Ukraine soon so they’re testing the waters with some war mongering next door.

 

[Sick Boy]

Poland would take Russia on

Yeah, with NATO

 

[Flying Fokker]

It’s escalating beyond Ukraine:

Russia's 'greyzone' invasion plan to start WW3 before Xmas revealed by defector

EXCLUSIVE: The warning from a top Russian general has triggered urgent discussions in the UK and US about the risk of a deniable strike aimed at fracturing NATO.

www.express.co.uk

 

[oscillatewildly]

Point farmers, your dastardly deeds are about to be out dasted.
None of us are gonna see the FA cup 3rd Rd let alone QPR away.

 

[eastwoodsdustman]

It’s escalating beyond Ukraine:

Russia's 'greyzone' invasion plan to start WW3 before Xmas revealed by defector

EXCLUSIVE: The warning from a top Russian general has triggered urgent discussions in the UK and US about the risk of a deniable strike aimed at fracturing NATO.

www.express.co.uk

Like many said early in this threadand many people denied it. Show Putin any weakness and he will try to exploit it.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Like many said early in this threadand many people denied it. Show Putin any weakness and he will try to exploit it.

I wonder if he does indeed attack some NATO member states that certain people on here will still argue that he was 'provoked' into doing it.

 

[Sick Boy]

It's almost like the stuff about Trump being a 'strong man' wasn't actually true.

 

[eastwoodsdustman]

I wonder if he does indeed attack some NATO member states that certain people on here will still argue that he was 'provoked' into doing it.

Well that will be the line trawled in russia.

 

[Grendel]

Like many said early in this threadand many people denied it. Show Putin any weakness and he will try to exploit it.

Hardly a reliable source of info is it really

 

[SBAndy]

Hardly a reliable source of info is it really

Fair point, I’ll ring MI6 and let them know.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

It's almost like the stuff about Trump being a 'strong man' wasn't actually true.

Sunday morning and your frothing at the mouth about trump, get a life you saddo. Do you do anything else apart from come on here all day and night? Saddo super moderator

 

[Sick Boy]

Sunday morning and your frothing at the mouth about trump, get a life you saddo. Do you do anything else apart from come on here all day and night? Saddo super moderator

 

[Macca]

If Russia was a non nuclear state NATO would have taken action long ago

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

If Russia was a non nuclear state NATO would have taken action long ago

Butr if Russia was a non nuclear state it's highly unlikely they'd have invaded anyway.

 

[Macca]

Butr if Russia was a non nuclear state it's highly unlikely they'd have invaded anyway.

Fair point to be honest. Its all they have going for them to be fair.

 

[eastwoodsdustman]

Hardly a reliable source of info is it really

What? Drones in poland or the air incursions over the baltics?

 

[Major Tom]

Do you think Putin speaks English ? Only takes a old skool translator to fuck something Trump says up or make a decision for their leader

Yes he does fluently. he was KGB in East Berlin 1980's a pre requisite.

 

[Grendel]

What? Drones in poland or the air incursions over the baltics?

I won’t be building a nuclear shelter in my garden just yet

 

[Grendel]

I wonder if he does indeed attack some NATO member states that certain people on here will still argue that he was 'provoked' into doing it.

Although I am sure this comment is going to be about as popular as - I dunno an LGBT activist visiting a mosque - the stability of the world was actually better pre Gorbachov in the Cold War days - there was a lot of sabre rattling but both ideologies in the end tolerated each other.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Although I am sure this comment is going to be about as popular as - I dunno an LGBT activist visiting a mosque - the stability of the world was actually better pre Gorbachov in the Cold War days - there was a lot of sabre rattling but both ideologies in the end tolerated each other.

The world also came on the verge of nuclear war more than once and there were proxy wars all over the place.