USSR invades Ukraine. (3 Viewers)

eastwoodsdustman said:

Russians were only plunged into poverty as the corrupt elite ringfenced the money, industry and resources for themselves and their friends.

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That sounds familiar

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:

I was originally going to ask if he'd be happy for Britain to be given over to any of the French, Germans, Danish or Italians because of our Norman, Saxon, Danelaw and Roman history.

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Which totally misses the point.

chiefdave said:

That sounds familiar

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Well other than its nonsense

"And it was just complete collapse in the early 1990s. I have a friend who was 14 when the Soviet Union fell. She was living in the provinces. Her family had a savings account for her to buy a car when she reached 18 – which would have been in 1995. But when she reached 18, because of hyperinflation it was just enough to buy a new pair of shoes.

Russians went from relatively benign, stable economic standards – when the price of things like Lada cars stayed the same – to everything going, virtually overnight. It was an enormous shock that Russia went through."

Gorbachov - unlike Andropov - believed he could retain Communist policies without the USSR and that Raegan and Thatcher would support him. It was total nonsense - it was the that he lost to Yeltsin - a pathetic drunk whose biggest claim to fame was wandering around the US in his underpants demanding a Pizza

Grendel said:

a pathetic drunk whose biggest claim to fame was wandering around the US in his underpants demanding a Pizza

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Who among us etc

Grendel said:

Ukraines heritage is steeped in Russian heritage.

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and we're French and German by that logic. You wanna let Macron know he can grab the Channel Islands, Cornwall and a few other bits whenever he feels like it?

So funny the nonsense people come up with so they don’t have to address the basics of self determination. Sorry it messes with your Risk board view of the world grandpa but we figured this out post WW2.

shmmeee said:

So funny the nonsense people come up with so they don’t have to address the basics of self determination. Sorry it messes with your Risk board view of the world grandpa but we figured this out post WW2.

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Your constant digs at people that you are smarter shows an incredible insecurity which you really need to address. I don’t think much of the Eastern European sovereign countries found very much self determination when Stalin rolled the tanks in.

It’s funny because you in reality are unbelievably stupid on so many levels.

Grendel said:

Your constant digs at people that you are smarter shows an incredible insecurity which you really need to address.

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Grendel said:

It’s funny because you in reality are unbelievably stupid on so many levels.

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Grendel said:

Your constant digs at people that you are smarter shows an incredible insecurity which you really need to address. I don’t think much of the Eastern European sovereign countries found very much self determination when Stalin rolled the tanks in.

It’s funny because you in reality are unbelievably stupid on so many levels.

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Says the man who constantly belittles people he believes are less intelligent than himself.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:

Says the man who constantly belittles people he believes are less intelligent than himself.

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It’s virtually every post. Who is he trying to convince?

Grendel said:

Which totally misses the point.

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Well hardly anyone here would be recognisable as a true Briton. Unless you're one of those that dress like a druid and go to Glastonbury or Stonehenge .

All of those places I mentioned have left significant cultural and genetic marks on this country.

Plus you haven't said whether you'd think the terms given by Russia would be acceptable if imposed on your own country.

The Romans did a lot for us, and there are some lovely Norman Churches
around.

wingy said:

The Romans did a lot for us, and there are some lovely Norman Churches
around.

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Huh, so what did the Vikings ever do for us.