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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 28, 2021
  • #1
Great to see so many Brits come through qualifying. Especially Raducanu
 
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rob9872

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  • Aug 29, 2021
  • #2
Half Romanian, half Chinese and born in Canada. More of a stretch than Greg Rusedski. Media far too hungry for female British slam champion.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 29, 2021
  • #3
She’s lived here since she was 2
 
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rob9872

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  • Aug 29, 2021
  • #4
But not since birth, so 2, 5 10 where do you choose? Already 3 nations to call home and all would be more appropriate, but I'd say as country of birth, Canadian would be best fit.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 29, 2021
  • #5
rob9872 said:
But not since birth, so 2, 5 10 where do you choose? Already 3 nations to call home and all would be more appropriate, but I'd say as country of birth, Canadian would be best fit.
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Well the rules in tennis say you can choose pretty much but 2 seems like it’s reasonable for her to consider herself British
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 29, 2021
  • #6
rob9872 said:
But not since birth, so 2, 5 10 where do you choose? Already 3 nations to call home and all would be more appropriate, but I'd say as country of birth, Canadian would be best fit.
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Terry Butcher would never have played for England on that basis
 
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rob9872

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  • Aug 29, 2021
  • #7
Garbage, his parents were both English. Lots of kids born overseas on military bases and completely different scenario as you're well aware. I only said best fit of three already. Butcher had Singapore or England. She had Canada, Romania or China.

Rad has no English heritage and wasn't born in England. If she can choose to be English then it's pointless having nations at all in sport.
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 29, 2021
  • #8
rob9872 said:
Garbage, his parents were both English. Lots of kids born overseas on military bases and completely different scenario as you're well aware. I only said best fit of three already. Butcher had Singapore or England. She had Canada, Romania or China.

Rad has no English heritage and wasn't born in England. If she can choose to be English then it's pointless having nations at all in sport.
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John Barnes?

Canada still is part of the Commonwealth
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 29, 2021
  • #9
rob9872 said:
Garbage, his parents were both English. Lots of kids born overseas on military bases and completely different scenario as you're well aware. I only said best fit of three already. Butcher had Singapore or England. She had Canada, Romania or China.

Rad has no English heritage and wasn't born in England. If she can choose to be English then it's pointless having nations at all in sport.
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You are funny - the rules are the rules
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 29, 2021
  • #10
rob9872 said:
Garbage, his parents were both English. Lots of kids born overseas on military bases and completely different scenario as you're well aware. I only said best fit of three already. Butcher had Singapore or England. She had Canada, Romania or China.

Rad has no English heritage and wasn't born in England. If she can choose to be English then it's pointless having nations at all in sport.
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You said country of birth
 
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rob9872

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  • Aug 29, 2021
  • #11
Grendel said:
You said country of birth
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No, I said 3 choices and that was best fit, none of which were England.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 29, 2021
  • #12
rob9872 said:
No, I said 3 choices and that was best fit, none of which were England.
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Guess you are opposed to a certain Cyrille Regis playing for England then
 
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rob9872

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  • Aug 29, 2021
  • #13
Grendel said:
Guess you are opposed to a certain Cyrille Regis playing for England then
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Tbh yes. I've no doubt you've spent all day googling to find someone, but if that's the criteria he shouldn't have and tbh I'm more bothered about City than nationally anyway.
 

Johnnythespider

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  • Aug 30, 2021
  • #14
rob9872 said:
No, I said 3 choices and that was best fit, none of which were England.
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I'm being pedantic but she represents Britain not England, i think that's how it works in tennis
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Aug 31, 2021
  • #15
rob9872 said:
Half Romanian, half Chinese and born in Canada. More of a stretch than Greg Rusedski. Media far too hungry for female British slam champion.
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Did the media influence who she wanted to represent?
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Aug 31, 2021
  • #16
Andy Murray played really well despite losing. Shame Tsitsipas resorted to gamesmanship to beat the old man with the metal hip.
 
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Paxman II

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  • Aug 31, 2021
  • #17
Skybluefaz said:
Andy Murray played really well despite losing. Shame Tsitsipas resorted to gamesmanship to beat the old man with the metal hip.
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Best I've seen Murray play since 2016/7 season. if he keeps that up he still has a big shout in things next season. Yes gamesmanship at play. The Greek has form on it. Lost respect for him a bit. The Joker to win and become the GOAT.
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Aug 31, 2021
  • #18
Paxman II said:
Best I've seen Murray play since 2016/7 season. if he keeps that up he still has a big shout in things next season. Yes gamesmanship at play. The Greek has form on it. Lost respect for him a bit. The Joker to win and become the GOAT.
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Djokovic is a c**t as well.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 31, 2021
  • #19
Emma won
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Sep 1, 2021
  • #20
Skybluefaz said:
Djokovic is a c**t as well.
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He is a c**t, I do like him though.
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Sep 1, 2021
  • #21
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
He is a c**t, I do like him though.
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I don't deny his tennis prowess. Roger Federer is the goat for me though.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 7, 2021
  • #22
What a run
 

David O'Day

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  • Sep 7, 2021
  • #23
Sky Blue Pete said:
What a run
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Rob doesn't think she's British though
 
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jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Sep 7, 2021
  • #24
She'll be british if she gets to the semi-finals......

...and truly british if she reaches loads of semi finals & keeps losing them...
 
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rob9872

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  • Sep 7, 2021
  • #25
David O'Day said:
Rob doesn't think she's British though
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wtf does that have to do with it? She's doing well and I can enjoy her talent as I do with Fed, Djok or Nadal all of whom last time I checked also weren't British.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Sep 7, 2021
  • #26
rob9872 said:
wtf does that have to do with it? She's doing well and I can enjoy her talent as I do with Fed, Djok or Nadal all of whom last time I checked also weren't British.
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But she is legally and in the eyes of the WTA British. You're just one of those weird born in a barn not a horse folk
 
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rob9872

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  • Sep 7, 2021
  • #27
David O'Day said:
But she is legally and in the eyes of the WTA British. You're just one of those weird born in a barn not a horse folk
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Absolutely not. This is completely different.
If someone is born here, whatever their heritage then imo they can claim to be British.
If any of their parentage or grandparents are british then if they choose to imo they can be british.
If neither of your parents have and british in them or you weren't born here, then I simply don't see how you can claim to be.

And for you of all people to call me weird is one of the strangest things I've ever seen on this board!
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 7, 2021
  • #28
rob9872 said:
Absolutely not. This is completely different.
If someone is born here, whatever their heritage then imo they can claim to be British.
If any of their parentage or grandparents are british then if they choose to imo they can be british.
If neither of your parents have and british in them or you weren't born here, then I simply don't see how you can claim to be.

And for you of all people to call me weird is one of the strangest things I've ever seen on this board!
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She’s British cause she says she is
 

rob9872

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  • Sep 7, 2021
  • #29
Sky Blue Pete said:
She’s British cause she says she is
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Ebben az esetben ma úgy döntöttem, hogy továbblépek, francia-magyar vagyok
 

David O'Day

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  • Sep 7, 2021
  • #30
rob9872 said:
Absolutely not. This is completely different.
If someone is born here, whatever their heritage then imo they can claim to be British.
If any of their parentage or grandparents are british then if they choose to imo they can be british.
If neither of your parents have and british in them or you weren't born here, then I simply don't see how you can claim to be.

And for you of all people to call me weird is one of the strangest things I've ever seen on this board!
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Because that's not how the laws on nationality work, what you think is pretty fucking unimportant in this.

Weirdo
 
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rob9872

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  • Sep 7, 2021
  • #31
David O'Day said:
Because that's not how the laws on nationality work, what you think is pretty fucking unimportant in this.

Weirdo
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Oh brilliant, you're telling me what I should and shouldn't think now. Perhaps as well I guess, as I do think you're a c**t.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 7, 2021
  • #32
rob9872 said:
If neither of your parents have and british in them or you weren't born here, then I simply don't see how you can claim to be.
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Just a hypothetical but... an Afghan refugee comes over at age two... surely they'd be more British if they feel it (and why wouldn't they when Britain would be the only thing they'd know), than Afghan and feeling an affinity with the Taliban and IS!
 
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rob9872

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  • Sep 7, 2021
  • #33
Perhaps they might feel it, but I would assume also proud of their Afghan heritage. I would also say they could have British Citizenship as many settled Europeans do and some even with dual passports. I don't consider citizenship and nationality as the same thing, but they are murky waters.

*edit - a world of difference in refugee status too than Romanian, Chinese or Canadian.
 

rob9872

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  • Sep 7, 2021
  • #34
Anyhow, I've made my opinion clear and I'm not going into the same row, only brought back in by Dunce O'Day dredging it up again, so good luck to the girl wherever she hails from and certainly looks a future slam champion, even if she falls short here.
 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 7, 2021
  • #35
David O'Day said:
Because that's not how the laws on nationality work, what you think is pretty fucking unimportant in this.

Weirdo
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