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Based on the number turning up to most protests, we might have raised £4,500 if we were lucky.
That's ludicrous, Wasps must be pissing themselves laughing at our local incompetence. If we could have got 10,000 fans { patrons} to part with £550.00 we could have bought it between us !
and then have different stands or blocks in the different colours.
Hmmm Black, yellow... Sky Blue.
Think my eyes would go crossed!
That's ludicrous, Wasps must be pissing themselves laughing at our local incompetence. If we could have got 10,000 fans { patrons} to part with £550.00 we could have bought it between us !
Or given that its empty when we play and will likely be empty when they play have all the seating different colours to try and make it look less empty.
That's ludicrous, Wasps must be pissing themselves laughing at our local incompetence. If we could have got 10,000 fans { patrons} to part with £550.00 we could have bought it between us !
Given that one stand has the sponsor on the seating anyway I wouldn't object to a compromise with Wasps at one end and Sky Blues at the other.
Same with the seating, if they are planning on changing, but are committed to us staying, why not look for a compromise. Wasps away kit isn't too far off Sky Blue, would could go to yellow and black for our away kit on a permanent basis and then have different stands or blocks in the different colours.
Lets be fair, Wasps do own it now so we can't expect them not to change things but if they are serious about building a relationship with CCFC and keeping us around there needs to be some level of compromise on both sides.
And now Sisu have to spend £20m+ on their 365 24/7 all singing and dancing 12,000 seater which will get us back to the premiership !! Ha ha,
What's that in the sky, it's pink and oinking?
maybe if people actually listened to other peoples arguments rather than dismissing it out of hand as "but but but" and then a few days later repeating the same silly accusations or misrepresentations of peoples feelings. Then this forum would be a nicer place to be instead of heading towards being the next gmk.
Wasps are trying to build a longterm fanbase with free tickets, sisu in at a short term temporary northampton were not trying to do this, they were trying to prevent an embarrassing ghost town (with very limited success).
why is it that you are incapable of looking at a situation on it's own merits and come to a reasoned conclusion. This might sound harsh but this is at least the 3rd time I've seen you post a comment like this on this issue, each time you are responded to with a reasoned argument but then you do it again.
In fairness Noggin, it is just as reasonable to point out that it will be embarassing for Wasps (and CCC) to turn out in front of the kind of attendance they've traditionally had at Wycombe (6,000 - 7,000), at the Ricoh. The ghost town scenario, if you will.
It's not unreasonable to point out that giving away thousands of tickets might be as much about that as it is about marketing. Long term, giving this many tickets away has to impact how many paying customers you're going to draw in - so it's hard to think it's sustainable. Why as a casual supporter would I pay for anything that I can likely pick up for free?
And it does of course reinforce the point that rugby isn't a game that other than in a very few places gets anything like football levels of attendances.
Is that a reasoned enough argument for you? Just because people don't agree with you doesn't mean that they are unreasonable or wrong.
I'm hoping they don't get anymore than 2k personally.
In fairness Noggin, it is just as reasonable to point out that it will be embarassing for Wasps (and CCC) to turn out in front of the kind of attendance they've traditionally had at Wycombe (6,000 - 7,000), at the Ricoh. The ghost town scenario, if you will.
It's not unreasonable to point out that giving away thousands of tickets might be as much about that as it is about marketing. Long term, giving this many tickets away has to impact how many paying customers you're going to draw in - so it's hard to think it's sustainable. Why as a casual supporter would I pay for anything that I can likely pick up for free?
And it does of course reinforce the point that rugby isn't a game that other than in a very few places gets anything like football levels of attendances.
Is that a reasoned enough argument for you? Just because people don't agree with you doesn't mean that they are unreasonable or wrong.
Out of interest do you know many that are going to WASPS, I do Villa fans, former Cov ST holders, rugger buggars
I'm hoping they don't get anymore than 2k personally.
Me too, but in truth I think we'll see a decent turn out for the first game or two, supported by a substantial ticket giveaway, and then crowds will drop off as the novelty dies. I think it'll settle to not much more than they currently get at best, with the exception of Leicester, Northampton, and maybe Gloucester who will bring a fair few of their own - plus the odd euro game.
That is all reasonable and I agree with alot of it, I've already posted that it's in wasps interests marketing wise to give out free tickets, it's good publicity for them to get a big crowd, not to mention the people there will have a better time and be more likely to return. That doesn't contradict what I said though. peoples issues with sisus free tickets in northampton was because it was harmful to the boycott and not anything to do with people have any issues with ccfc giving out free tickets.
disagreeing with me doesn't make you unreasonable or wrong. posting snide, sarcastic misrepresentations of peoples arguments over and over again months after they made them makes you unreasonable and wrong and this is very common from Nick (and many others)
Fair enough Noggin, I respect that. There's no doubt that my anger about this has made me even snappier than usual, so apologies where that's leaked out.
The frustrating for me, is that this should have been us. The one thing I'm sure we'd agree on is that with half-decent owners (even prior to SISU) we'd be in the same position as Wasps now. I wouldn't ever deny that. It's just surprising to me that it's the council that have finally closed the door on the possibility.
Regardless, I'm moving on. I'll maintain my one-man boycott against Wasps, others will differ. Fair enough, we're all still CCFC fans - we've suffered enough without beating each other up over this!
Out of interest do you know many that are going to WASPS, I do Villa fans, former Cov ST holders, rugger buggars
That's ludicrous, Wasps must be pissing themselves laughing at our local incompetence. If we could have got 10,000 fans { patrons} to part with £550.00 we could have bought it between us !
Free tickets is hardly an imaginative or great marketing initiative
It can be risky.
There is an expectation it will happen again - getting off the drug can be difficult.
There is no guarantee at all it will encourage loyalty or returns.
If it becomes widespread and frequent it can cause consumer dissatisfaction to loyal customers who are paying.
There is the risk of brand devaluation.
What confuses me is that people keep saying this is a world class rugby club and an attractive brand in itself. Coupled with the notion that people in Coventry want premiership rugby this seems behaviour totally at odds with those statements. Imagine if Manchester United pitched up here? Would they need to do this.
The principal motivation of course is political - to ensure it is seen as a success on day one - even if it isn't.
You misunderstand.... that was the price for Wasps. For anyone else it was far higher.
Free tickets is hardly an imaginative or great marketing initiative
It can be risky.
There is an expectation it will happen again - getting off the drug can be difficult.
There is no guarantee at all it will encourage loyalty or returns.
If it becomes widespread and frequent it can cause consumer dissatisfaction to loyal customers who are paying.
There is the risk of brand devaluation.
What confuses me is that people keep saying this is a world class rugby club and an attractive brand in itself. Coupled with the notion that people in Coventry want premiership rugby this seems behaviour totally at odds with those statements. Imagine if Manchester United pitched up here? Would they need to do this.
The principal motivation of course is political - to ensure it is seen as a success on day one - even if it isn't.
For SISU you mean, the same clowns that kept taking the very people they needed to stay onside with to court. I'm disgusted by Lucas and her ultimate revenge but Sepalla and Fisher brought this about !
For SISU you mean, the same clowns that kept taking the very people they needed to stay onside with to court. I'm disgusted by Lucas and her ultimate revenge but Sepalla and Fisher brought this about !
No. Before they'd gone anywhere near court the council pursued buying out the loan, which pretty much ended the purchase avenue. Indeed the council said the loan would assist the club in agreeing a rental term. They were not interested in selling the £113m complex to SISU.
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