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U.S. withdrawal from Syria (1 Viewer)

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clint van damme

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  • Oct 12, 2019
  • #36
SkyblueBazza said:
Or maybe it is designed to crush the remains of ISIS? The Turks won't piss about with arresting them...they'll just snub them out

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I think you're well wide of the mark but even if not that doesn't justify what has happened to the Kurds.
Although Turkey has had its own problems with ISIS there is also a lot of evidence of support from certain quarters within Turkey.
Most commentators are also saying this is good news for ISIS.
 
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  • Oct 12, 2019
  • #37
No problem with the US not involving themselves (if they'd done so a little less in the padt, would have been no bad thing). It's involving themselves then running away that grates.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 12, 2019
  • #38
clint van damme said:
I think you're well wide of the mark but even if not that doesn't justify what has happened to the Kurds.
Although Turkey has had its own problems with ISIS there is also a lot of evidence of support from certain quarters within Turkey.
Most commentators are also saying this is good news for ISIS.
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Erdogan commands his support from rural Turkey, the type of people who are more Islamic in outlook.
 

Gazolba

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  • Oct 14, 2019
  • #39
So it turns out Trump was 100% correct in withdrawing troops from Syria.
The Kurds have reached a deal for Syrian troops to come to defend the border, thus aiding them.
So now it's as it should be; Turkey invades Syria and Syria defends itself, which they are more than capable of doing.
The US avoids becoming entangled in a conflict that will probably last for years.
And the US taxpayers save billions of dollars.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Oct 14, 2019
  • #40
Once the Syrians have got rid of the Turks expect them to turn on the Kurds and wipe them out.
 

clint van damme

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  • Oct 14, 2019
  • #41
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Once the Syrians have got rid of the Turks expect them to turn on the Kurds and wipe them out.
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Yeah, but the American tax payers have saved a few bob so everything's sound.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Oct 14, 2019
  • #42
clint van damme said:
Yeah, but the American tax payers have saved a few bob so everything's sound.
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Just watching the coverage on the news and I suspect that ultimately all Trump has done is facilitate the radicalisation of another group of the Muslim faith. Still I’m sure Putin is grateful.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Oct 14, 2019
  • #43
skybluetony176 said:
Just watching the coverage on the news and I suspect that ultimately all Trump has done is facilitate the radicalisation of another group of the Muslim faith. Still I’m sure Putin is grateful.
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Or maybe a carefully calculated & considered move, that when the hell of the marginalised war hits again they now will think "It was a nicer place when the Americans were here keeping (relative) peace" in the hope that future generations see the error of their predessosors ways, & choose peace? Let's hope so.

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Gazolba

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  • Oct 15, 2019
  • #44
clint van damme said:
Yeah, but the American tax payers have saved a few bob so everything's sound.
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A conflict between Turkey and Syria is nothing to do with the US.
Why isn't the UK intervening? Or France? Or Germany?
 

clint van damme

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  • Oct 15, 2019
  • #45
Gazolba said:
A conflict between Turkey and Syria is nothing to do with the US.
Why isn't the UK intervening? Or France? Or Germany?
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Sweet Jesus!
 
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  • Oct 15, 2019
  • #46
Gazolba said:
A conflict between Turkey and Syria is nothing to do with the US.
Why isn't the UK intervening? Or France? Or Germany?
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The US decided to try and police the world by agitating for the remival of the likes of Assad. Regardless of opinions over the rights or wrongs of intervening, having destabilised nations and regions, they have a responsibility to see it through.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Oct 15, 2019
  • #47
Deleted member 5849 said:
The US...have a responsibility to see it through.
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To their minimum desired outcome...maybe they reached/changed it. They probably had a public one & a private one too.

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Liquid Gold

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  • Oct 15, 2019
  • #48
I wonder if the US are looking to save a few quid on Israel or if it’s just Muslims they don’t mind leaving for dead.
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 15, 2019
  • #49
Deleted member 5849 said:
The US decided to try and police the world by agitating for the remival of the likes of Assad. Regardless of opinions over the rights or wrongs of intervening, having destabilised nations and regions, they have a responsibility to see it through.
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Well yes because the Middle East and Syria in particular was a torch bearer for stability before US interference

The irony is Trump is far less interested in such interference as Obama the peace maker
 

Sick Boy

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  • Oct 16, 2019
  • #50
Grendel said:
Well yes because the Middle East and Syria in particular was a torch bearer for stability before US interference

The irony is Trump is far less interested in such interference as Obama the peace maker
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Wasn’t he on the verge of dropping bombs on Iran and then suddenly pulled out at the last minute?
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 16, 2019
  • #51
Sick Boy said:
Wasn’t he on the verge of dropping bombs on Iran and then suddenly pulled out at the last minute?
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he was never going to. Trump is odd as you’d naturally assume he’s a war maker but he’s put off not through morality but cost. He’s intent on using all funds for his economy
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Oct 16, 2019
  • #52
Grendel said:
he was never going to. Trump is odd as you’d naturally assume he’s a war maker but he’s put off not through morality but cost. He’s intent on using all funds for his economy
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If someone else was paying he'd happily drop bombs and send troops everywhere. The Middle East would be like a modern day Crusade if it was someone else's pocket.

And the main word is 'his' economy. If it was good for America but bad for him he wouldn't do it. Because in his head good for America means good for Donald Trump.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 17, 2019
  • #53
Grendel said:
Trump is odd
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Just a little bit.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Oct 21, 2019
  • #54
Deleted member 5849 said:
Just a little bit.
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And orange...just a little bit

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Oct 21, 2019
  • #55
Liquid Gold said:
I wonder if the US are looking to save a few quid on Israel or if it’s just Muslims they don’t mind leaving for dead.
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The troops from Syria have been redeployed to Iran.
 
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