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  • Start date May 23, 2022
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SBT

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #36
Liquid Gold said:
Imagine working in an industry where your employer can just be like "pack your bags mate, you're living in Dundee for 6 months"
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American sports are even more crazy for this - teams will just trade you to another club and most of the time you have zero say in it.
 
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tommy hutch legend

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2022
  • #37
Evo1883 said:
His trajectory is matching his workrate
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bang on comment until he ups his work rate he's career is just going to get worse
 
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Frankly_Mr_Shankly

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #38
SlowerThanPlatt said:
In fairness he went back to the manager who’s previously got the best out of him, kept playing him when he wasn’t scoring and supported him in the press. If he still hasn’t got any confidence then the issue may be closer to home
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Like he’s actually not that good.
 
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cov donkey kick

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #39
Maybe they will take waghorn as well
 
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Cranfield Sky Blue

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #40
Think how good McNulty’s agent is!
 

fatso

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #41
tommy hutch legend said:
bang on comment until he ups his work rate he's career is just going to get worse
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With Gyokores, Godden and Waghorn ahead of him, and Tavares and Cashman to potentially provide competition for a place on the bench, I really can't see Walker featuring again for us.
 
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AOM

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #42
Liquid Gold said:
Imagine working in an industry where your employer can just be like "pack your bags mate, you're living in Dundee for 6 months"
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Bright Enobakhare's club history just looks like his agent blindfolds themselves and throws a dart at a map on the wall of their office to see where he's off to next

 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #43
AOM said:
Bright Enobakhare's club history just looks like his agent blindfolds themselves and throws a dart at a map on the wall of their office to see where he's off to next

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The Bright thing was hilarious, people were so invested in him and thinking he was going to take us the Premier League that reputable posters were abused for updating what was going on
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #44
SlowerThanPlatt said:
The Bright thing was hilarious, people were so invested in him and thinking he was going to take us the Premier League that reputable posters were abused for updating what was going on
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Yes - although when you look at those stats, his first stint with us stands head and shoulders above anything else he has done (and having watched him during that period, you can understand why some were fooled - me too, to an extent) - into hoping he might come good for us.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #45
Evo1883 said:
Now THAT would be a fall from grace
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It just further highlights he was right to force a move
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #46
SlowerThanPlatt said:
The Bright thing was hilarious, people were so invested in him and thinking he was going to take us the Premier League that reputable posters were abused for updating what was going on
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You're right. It was quite incredible how some people were adamant nothing was going on with him. It was clear as day for me at least, but some really went to die on a hill with that and I could never understand why.

I just went to check up on him. Since he joined Hapoel Jerusalem he played 3 league games as a sub, totalling 71 minutes. From what I can see, he was bombed out the team at the end of March and seems to have disappeared from then. Although I can't find any information anywhere about him, no rumours, statements, or even gossip. The club's website doesn't have him on the squad list though, so I think we can safely assume he probably wasn't at the end of season awards!

What a cretin.
 
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AOM

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #47
SlowerThanPlatt said:
The Bright thing was hilarious, people were so invested in him and thinking he was going to take us the Premier League that reputable posters were abused for updating what was going on
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He was very good when he first played for us in League One and I was pretty excited to see him come back, but his record after leaving us should have had alarm bells ringing really
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 23, 2022
  • #48
SlowerThanPlatt said:
The Bright thing was hilarious, people were so invested in him and thinking he was going to take us the Premier League that reputable posters were abused for updating what was going on
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Like it was a personal attack on him
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 23, 2022
  • #49
fatso said:
With Gyokores, Godden and Waghorn ahead of him, and Tavares and Cashman to potentially provide competition for a place on the bench, I really can't see Walker featuring again for us.
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Cashman to provide competition?
 
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better days

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #50
fatso said:
With Gyokores, Godden and Waghorn ahead of him, and Tavares and Cashman to potentially provide competition for a place on the bench, I really can't see Walker featuring again for us.
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I'll be surprised if Waghorn is here next season
 
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long way home

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #51
Walker, Kane, Waghorn and Kelly will surely be moved on. Cashman, J Burroughs, Bapaga and Tavares will have to push on in pre season to stick around. If they dont the goodbye bus will need more seats.
 

ccfc1234

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #52
long way home said:
Walker, Kane, Waghorn and Kelly will surely be moved on. Cashman, J Burroughs, Bapaga and Tavares will have to push on in pre season to stick around. If they dont the goodbye bus will need more seats.
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The bus will need places to stop or the passengers will not be getting off!!
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #53
ccfc1234 said:
The bus will need places to stop or the passengers will not be getting off!!
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It can be like that bus from 'Tranzit' in Call of Duty. Driven by a robot and it just goes round and round the apocalyptic world until the zombies eventually finish you off.
 

slowpoke

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  • May 24, 2022
  • #54
Sick Boy said:
Cashman to provide competition?
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Have you seen him play ? I know I haven’t if Robins adds him to the squad give him a chance ffs!
 
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procdoc

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  • May 24, 2022
  • #55
Cashman will be in the U23s next season. He’s not ready for the championship. He’s got a lot of ability just needs to harness it
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 24, 2022
  • #56
ccfc1234 said:
The bus will need places to stop or the passengers will not be getting off!!
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Think you’re confusing the goodbye bus with the purgatory one.
 

slowpoke

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  • May 24, 2022
  • #57
I think our aim is to get Walker off the wage bill, one of our top earners so could pave the way for a decent signing, with only a year left on his contract I doubt we’ll get a fee, bit of an expensive flop.
 

ccfc_Tom

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  • May 24, 2022
  • #58
better days said:
I'll be surprised if Waghorn is here next season
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Please say you have heard he wants to leave
 

better days

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  • May 24, 2022
  • #59
ccfc_Tom said:
Please say you have heard he wants to leave
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There have been quite a few posts on this in other threads
For whatever reason the relationship between player and manager appears to have broken down
Most likely outcome is that Waghorn will go out on loan if there are other clubs interested in taking him, which is quite likely
 
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Danceswithhorses

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  • May 24, 2022
  • #60
better days said:
There have been quite a few posts on this in other threads
For whatever reason the relationship between player and manager appears to have broken down
Most likely outcome is that Waghorn will go out on loan if there are other clubs interested in taking him, which is quite likely
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Fingers crossed for Derby offer
 
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Jesse Carver

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  • May 24, 2022
  • #61
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
You'd think he'd get a club in L2 perhaps.

Then again due to there being no FFP equivalent in the NL he might earn more money at a club like Chesterfield than he would at a L2 club.
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Chesterfield are in the play-offs so could be in Lg2 next season. Just seen Paul Cook is back managing them - he's had a bit of a fall from grace since leaving Wigan.
 

ccfc1234

Well-Known Member
  • May 24, 2022
  • #62
Danceswithhorses said:
Fingers crossed for Derby offer
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With Walker rumoured to be on 10k and Waghorn 15k. I wonder how much we will be able to get back with the damage limitation loans! Half of our 25k a week outgoing!!
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 24, 2022
  • #63
better days said:
There have been quite a few posts on this in other threads
For whatever reason the relationship between player and manager appears to have broken down
Most likely outcome is that Waghorn will go out on loan if there are other clubs interested in taking him, which is quite likely
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With a season left on his contract,what's the benefit for everybody in him going on loan, as opposed to just letting him join somebody else?
 

better days

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  • May 24, 2022
  • #64
Deleted member 5849 said:
With a season left on his contract,what's the benefit for everybody in him going on loan, as opposed to just letting him join somebody else?
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It's vanishingly unlikely that any other club would pay him what we agreed when he signed (I doubt it's as much as what's being speculated but it will be significant as he was an established Championship player)
So to allow him to join another club we'd have to negotiate an early settlement on his current contract which would probably bring forward the payment date(s)
If he goes on loan they will be spread over the rest of the contract with the club taking him on loan paying at least part of the wages
 
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rexo87

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  • May 24, 2022
  • #65
Deleted member 5849 said:
With a season left on his contract,what's the benefit for everybody in him going on loan, as opposed to just letting him join somebody else?
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The benefit is for Waghorn. He gets our wage while playing for someone that wouldn't have been able to pay his wage fully

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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 24, 2022
  • #66
better days said:
It's vanishingly unlikely that any other club would pay him what we agreed when he signed (I doubt it's as much as what's being speculated but it will be significant as he was an established Championship player)
So to allow him to join another club we'd have to negotiate an early settlement on his current contract which would probably bring forward the payment date(s)
If he goes on loan they will be spread over the rest of the contract with the club taking him on loan paying at least part of the wages
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Surely you can make an agreement to pay him a severance, over a period of a year though? So effectively it's the same? It seems somewhat inflexible to suggest it's cash up front or nothing!
 

Grendel

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  • May 24, 2022
  • #67
Deleted member 5849 said:
Surely you can make an agreement to pay him a severance, over a period of a year though? So effectively it's the same? It seems somewhat inflexible to suggest it's cash up front or nothing!
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When Lee Hughes signed for west Brom we were paying £7k a week while he was there so I’d have thought so
 
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better days

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  • May 24, 2022
  • #68
Deleted member 5849 said:
Surely you can make an agreement to pay him a severance, over a period of a year though? So effectively it's the same? It seems somewhat inflexible to suggest it's cash up front or nothing!
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It's a negotiation
His agent would be doing the deal and would try to drive a hard bargain
You see it all the time in football
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 24, 2022
  • #69
better days said:
It's a negotiation
His agent would be doing the deal and would try to drive a hard bargain
You see it all the time in football
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Not much of a negotiation if that's what he ends up with anyway.
 

better days

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  • May 24, 2022
  • #70
Deleted member 5849 said:
Not much of a negotiation if that's what he ends up with anyway.
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Football is a business like no other
Most clubs are absolutely ruthless when they have the upper hand
The players know that and most will be sympathetic to fellow professionals in the same position as Walker & Waghorn now and Hilssner & Jobello last term, who were bombed out to the U23s until Jobello was paid off and Hilssner found a club in Germany
 
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