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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 11, 2015
  • #71
skybluetony176 said:
So the minute SISU arrived the trust went into demanding that they resign or did the relationship start well but after bad decision after bad decision the trust started holding them to account as you would expect them to. Only SISU don't like being held to account they like nodding dogs. So I ask again. How do you find middle ground when dealing with an outfit like they?
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You be vaguely professional as, indeed, the Trust became.

As opposed to shouty crazy mentalists.
 

duffer

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 11, 2015
  • #72
skybluetony176 said:
So the minute SISU arrived the trust went into demanding that they resign or did the relationship start well but after bad decision after bad decision the trust started holding them to account as you would expect them to. Only SISU don't like being held to account they like nodding dogs. So I ask again. How do you find middle ground when dealing with an outfit like they?
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I'd say that you don't do it by demanding the resignation of the bloke you've got to deal with, or that the owners sell up. You stick at it, stay polite, and keep asking the questions.

If the owners won't answer then that's what you report. You're there to act as a link between the fans and the club - that may mean that you need to deal with people that you don't much like. Do you thump everyone that you disagree with, or walk away, or try to talk it out?
 

cloughie

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 11, 2015
  • #73
Grendel said:
I'd replace Steve Brown with the woman from the ticket office.
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Just as I thought you haven't got a clue
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 11, 2015
  • #74
duffer said:
I'd say that you don't do it by demanding the resignation of the bloke you've got to deal with, or that the owners sell up. You stick at it, stay polite, and keep asking the questions.

If the owners won't answer then that's what you report. You're there to act as a link between the fans and the club - that may mean that you need to deal with people that you don't much like. Do you thump everyone that you disagree with, or walk away, or try to talk it out?
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I think that the sensible, mature approach and then the club not doing the same back only makes the club look bad. The shouty shouty stuff just gives the club a reason not to bother with the trust.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 11, 2015
  • #75
A pointless statement; just like the Trust themselves.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 11, 2015
  • #76
duffer said:
I'd say that you don't do it by demanding the resignation of the bloke you've got to deal with, or that the owners sell up. You stick at it, stay polite, and keep asking the questions.

If the owners won't answer then that's what you report. You're there to act as a link between the fans and the club - that may mean that you need to deal with people that you don't much like. Do you thump everyone that you disagree with, or walk away, or try to talk it out?
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My point being that it started well, it then went to the " middle ground" and when thing's still kept getting worse and then when SISU did the unthinkable by taking the club 35 miles away when as history has shown us their was a deal to be done in your home city if you had the appetite to do it the trust quite rightly called for those responsible to do one. Why would anyone think TF has earned the right to run our once proud club.
 

cloughie

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  • Mar 11, 2015
  • #77
Sick Boy said:
A pointless statement; just like the Trust themselves.
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Then why did you post it?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 11, 2015
  • #78
skybluetony176 said:
My point being that it started well, it then went to the " middle ground" and when thing's still kept getting worse and then when SISU did the unthinkable by taking the club 35 miles away when as history has shown us their was a deal to be done in your home city if you had the appetite to do it the trust quite rightly called for those responsible to do one. Why would anyone think TF has earned the right to run our once proud club.
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Which is all well and good, but there isn't really any grounds to moan with the "The club wont speak to us stuff" is there?
 

cloughie

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 11, 2015
  • #79
There is no point in speaking to sisu they will do what they want regardless of any dialogue with the SBT or anyone else

They could not not give a sh#t about CCFC or the fans

Pointless trying to cosey up and befriend them
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 11, 2015
  • #80
cloughie said:
There is no point in speaking to sisu they will do what they want regardless of any dialogue with the SBT or anyone else

They could not not give a sh#t about CCFC or the fans

Pointless trying to cosey up and befriend them
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I dont think anybody has said anybody should be coseying up to anybody have they?
 

cloughie

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 11, 2015
  • #81
nick said:
i dont think anybody has said anybody should be coseying up to anybody have they?
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scg
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 11, 2015
  • #82
cloughie said:
scg
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What do you mean? I am no good at riddles.
 

cloughie

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 11, 2015
  • #83
The consultative group who still hang on every word and praise the owners
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 11, 2015
  • #84
cloughie said:
The consultative group who still hang on every word and praise the owners
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Includes members of the trust doesn't it.
 

cloughie

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 11, 2015
  • #85
Deleted member 5849 said:
Includes members of the trust doesn't it.
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not sure but just 1 i think but you earlier said they don't attempt to consult sisu

you can't have it both ways
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 11, 2015
  • #86
cloughie said:
not sure but just 1 i think but you earlier said they don't attempt to consult sisu

you can't have it both ways
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Have what both ways?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 11, 2015
  • #87
cloughie said:
not sure but just 1 i think but you earlier said they don't attempt to consult sisu

you can't have it both ways
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I was kind of wondering if that meant the Trust hung on every word and praised the owners, see.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 11, 2015
  • #88
Nick said:
Which is all well and good, but there isn't really any grounds to moan with the "The club wont speak to us stuff" is there?
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Forget the club won't speak. If "the club" has any respect for the clubs fans they should be begging on bended knee to talk to the trust. "The club" don't want to speak to the trust because they have no interest in what the fans want so they cosy up to the likes of individuals who only represent themselves on the SCG and then bullshit the FL that they're communicating with fans.
 
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The Gentleman

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 11, 2015
  • #89
skybluetony176 said:
Who's Bobby Davro?

You really should set up your own supporters trust if you think this ones so bad. You may even get enough members to warrant a place on the SCG and then you can locate this neutral ground with SISU and get the club pointing in the right direction. Then you'll be the messiah.
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Backing singer for Marillion...................
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 11, 2015
  • #90
cloughie said:
There is no point in speaking to sisu they will do what they want regardless of any dialogue with the SBT or anyone else

They could not not give a sh#t about CCFC or the fans

Pointless trying to cosey up and befriend them
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Exactly. Calling them out is the only way to make progress with them. At some point the FL will have to take note.
 

cloughie

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 11, 2015
  • #91
Deleted member 5849 said:
I was kind of wondering if that meant the Trust hung on every word and praised the owners, see.
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Surely your not saying you refuse to recognize the SCG !!!
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 11, 2015
  • #92
The Gentleman said:
Backing singer for Marillion...................
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That's why no ones ever heard of him then.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 11, 2015
  • #93
skybluetony176 said:
Who's Bobby Davro?

You really should set up your own supporters trust if you think this ones so bad. You may even get enough members to warrant a place on the SCG and then you can locate this neutral ground with SISU and get the club pointing in the right direction. Then you'll be the messiah.
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don't mention neutral ground to SISU......
 
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steveecov

New Member
  • Mar 11, 2015
  • #94
When people talk of speaking to "the club", who do they mean?
 

skyblueinBaku

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 11, 2015
  • #95
skybluetony176 said:
Exactly. Calling them out is the only way to make progress with them. At some point the FL will have to take note.
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The FL won't take note of anything. They will just stick their heads in the sand as usual.
 
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steveecov

New Member
  • Mar 11, 2015
  • #96
I used to wonder why SISU never spoke to the fans..

Now I realise why they were "Sent to Coventry".
 
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