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tisza

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These are the same people who say they don't want Russia as a neighbour...when they're only 4Km apart.
same people who say Putin/russia aren't really a threat and should be given part of Ukraine and then everything will be great.
Same people who want to strengthen US economic relationship with Russia. All these people are dominated by a commercial mindset rather than a geopolitical/diplomat mindset.
 

CCFCSteve

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Good assessment of the situation…



Most of the points have probably been discussed on here but does address each of the elements (and calls out the BS)
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Believes is an interesting choice of word there. I'm guessing there wasn't a follow up question asking Bessent if he agreed with the president.

Framing it as a security issue is crazy when at the same time you're destabilising NATO and attempting to drive division in Europe. I'm sure its just a coincidence that they are also objectives of Putin.
This seems like a surefire way to encourage both Russia and China to look to take land it sees as theirs for their own 'national security'.

It doesn't help US security, as they can do all that already under NATO, it hinders it. Only thing it does is gives the US a load of rare earth minerals.
 

mmttww

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It doesn't help US security, as they can do all that already under NATO, it hinders it. Only thing it does is gives the US a load of rare earth minerals.

It's this, isn't it, and that X post makes that point really unambiguously. Interesting that it comes from a Republican-leaning source (worked for McCain).
 

tisza

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This seems like a surefire way to encourage both Russia and China to look to take land it sees as theirs for their own 'national security'.
Russia's argument for trying to take all of Ukraine was for their national security. Many argue that if Russia does get to hold the territory it currently holds in Ukraine it will regroup and try and take a weakened Ukraine (want Ukraine disarmed in any peace deal and don't care about external security guarantees as they've been largely ineffectual to date)
Analysts think it's only a matter of time before they try & take Moldova.
China already in contravention of international law by claiming control of South China sea. Again many analysts believe its inevitable that at some stage they will move on Taiwan.
Only thing it does is gives the US a load of rare earth minerals.
That they can't process as China controls processing. Again (like Venezuela) many US companies unwilling to invest big money in case Democrats get back in and refuse to use military to protect investments. Also if Democrats take control of Congress in mid-terms (as seems likely) there wouldn't be funds for the likes of Greenland/Venezuela.
 

PVA

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We all knew this would be the case, but nice to see it actually studied and reported on.

Would be good to see someone put this to him - though of course it'll just be brushed off as fake news by him and his supporters.

President Donald Trump’s duties on imported goods are paid almost entirely by American importers, their domestic customers and ultimately US consumers, a study from a German think tank concluded.

“Foreign exporters did not meaningfully reduce their prices in response to US tariff increases,” a report released Monday by the Kiel Institute for the World Economy said. “The $200 billion surge in customs revenue represents $200 billion extracted from American businesses and households.”

The study found that only about 4% of the tariff burden is shouldered by foreign firms, with a “near-complete” pass-through of 96% to US buyers that pay the levies and then must either absorb them or raise selling prices. Manufacturers and retailers are next in line in deciding whether they’ll pass along their higher costs or deal with tighter margins.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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We all knew this would be the case, but nice to see it actually studied and reported on.

Would be good to see someone put this to him - though of course it'll just be brushed off as fake news by him and his supporters.
Least he’s great at cheating at golf eh
 

wingy

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Believes is an interesting choice of word there. I'm guessing there wasn't a follow up question asking Bessent if he agreed with the president.

Framing it as a security issue is crazy when at the same time you're destabilising NATO and attempting to drive division in Europe. I'm sure its just a coincidence that they are also objectives of Putin.

We all knew this would be the case, but nice to see it actually studied and reported on.

Would be good to see someone put this to him - though of course it'll just be brushed off as fake news by him and his supporters.
Can't use the fentinol or mental patients shtick what now for the nobel peace champion?
 

Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon

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We all knew this would be the case, but nice to see it actually studied and reported on.

Would be good to see someone put this to him - though of course it'll just be brushed off as fake news by him and his supporters.
Are they even seeing an increase in Americans buying more domestically produced stuff? That was the other aim of this masterplan of his.
 

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