Sky Blue Pete
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Yep you either have the penalty or not, if you do you Probably should have the courage to see it through. The first guy though?’ 18 when he did it. No excuse but seems unnecessary
Yep you either have the penalty or not, if you do you Probably should have the courage to see it through. The first guy though?’ 18 when he did it. No excuse but seems unnecessaryWas my initial reaction. Then I read that the second guy in line for execution molested, tortured and then beat his two year old daughter to death. Bit torn on it now.
How Musk has gone from “let’s save the world” to “Im alt right for the lulz” I’ll never know. Man needs to get off the internet.
Not read the details myself but apparently the first guy was guilty of knowing something was going down (not necessarily a murder), wasn’t actually there when the murder took place, they know who the actual murderer was who also happened to be murdered in the same incident but rather than trial him as an accessory to murder they trailed him for murder for which he was found guilty and sentenced to death, which happened yesterday. Not sure you could say his sentence was warranted let alone the actual execution if there’s any truth to what I was told.Was my initial reaction. Then I read that the second guy in line for execution molested, tortured and then beat his two year old daughter to death. Bit torn on it now.
That's the thing isn't it. No doubt there are many that deserve the ultimate punishment but if you get one wrong...The death penalty is always a very sensitive subject. I personally would struggle to ever think it is acceptable for the risk of getting the verdict wrong.
Look at that nutcase Duterte in the Philippines though. He just gets people to do it off the record and doesn't give a fuck.
I have no doubts some people don't deserve to be walking this earth, but how do you prove it?
Not read the details myself but apparently the first guy was guilty of knowing something was going down (not necessarily a murder), wasn’t actually there when the murder took place, they know who the actual murderer was who also happened to be murdered in the same incident but rather than trial him as an accessory to murder they trailed him for murder for which he was found guilty and sentenced to death, which happened yesterday. Not sure you could say his sentence was warranted let alone the actual execution if there’s any truth to what I was told.
Having said that the second guy by the sound of it deserved it. But just for balance consider the first guy.
That's the thing isn't it. No doubt there are many that deserve the ultimate punishment but if you get one wrong...
That's the thing isn't it. No doubt there are many that deserve the ultimate punishment but if you get one wrong...
Fair enough. Not quite the “innocent“ person I was told he was.Purely based on the BBC article, my understanding is that the guy executed yesterday was an accomplice in the shooting of a couple in their car.
The man who shot them was convicted and executed previously.
This guy did not pull the trigger, but set fire to the car after the couple were shot.
Prosecution argued the female of the couple was killed by the fire as she had soot in her lungs and so was still breathing. Defence argued the guy (18 at the time) was basically forced to burn the car by the older gang leader.
Yep you either have the penalty or not, if you do you Probably should have the courage to see it through. The first guy though?’ 18 when he did it. No excuse but seems unnecessary
Yep that’s what I think too. I feel sorry for the person who’s job it is tooI hear ya, but taking a life should be sacrosanct. Moreover, a state/state leader should never, ever have the power to do it.
HahahaPretty soon their gonna have to try and get on Judge Judy
cynical pandering of those Republican members of congress ( that supported the lawsuit ) to Trump fanbase.US Supreme Court rejects Trump-backed bid to overturn election - BBC News
The Supreme Court did it's job but some Republicans think it was unconstitutional ffs, one of them from Texas even suggested that "Perhaps law-abiding states should bond together and form a Union of states that will abide by the constitution." This division created by Trump & some Republicans could take years to heal.
US Supreme Court rejects Trump-backed bid to overturn election - BBC News
The Supreme Court did it's job but some Republicans think it was unconstitutional ffs, one of them from Texas even suggested that "Perhaps law-abiding states should bond together and form a Union of states that will abide by the constitution." This division created by Trump & some Republicans could take years to heal.
I do wonder if sensible traditional republican voters, even those that still voted Trump this time look at his behaviour in defeat and think what was I thinking. How many would vote Trump again in 2024 if a Trump gets the Republican nomination.US Supreme Court rejects Trump-backed bid to overturn election - BBC News
The Supreme Court did it's job but some Republicans think it was unconstitutional ffs, one of them from Texas even suggested that "Perhaps law-abiding states should bond together and form a Union of states that will abide by the constitution." This division created by Trump & some Republicans could take years to heal.
Almost as scary is if Republicans see a Trump replica is the way to take things forward and abandon all sense of moderacy. There are some republicans already in Congress who make Trump seem less radical. Can't ignore how many people still voted for Trump in spite of everything.I do wonder if sensible traditional republican voters, even those that still voted Trump this time look at his behaviour in defeat and think what was I thinking. How many would vote Trump again in 2024 if a Trump gets the Republican nomination.
California might quite like thatUS Supreme Court rejects Trump-backed bid to overturn election - BBC News
The Supreme Court did it's job but some Republicans think it was unconstitutional ffs, one of them from Texas even suggested that "Perhaps law-abiding states should bond together and form a Union of states that will abide by the constitution." This division created by Trump & some Republicans could take years to heal.
Not quite how trump sees itcynical pandering of those Republican members of congress ( that supported the lawsuit ) to Trump fanbase.
Was never going to get through the SC.
These divisions won't heal fully. It's now a battle to win over hearts and minds of the majority of midstream Republicans to generate a level of healing. And that probably means finding a way to remove the Trump influence.
Republicans actually made gains in the House elections and could hold that slim Senate majority. So seemingly wasn't a rejection of the Republican party (which has moved more to the right) just a rejection of Trump. You've got people voting Biden nationally andRepublican locally.
Not quite how trump sees it
I do wonder if sensible traditional republican voters, even those that still voted Trump this time look at his behaviour in defeat and think what was I thinking. How many would vote Trump again in 2024 if a Trump gets the Republican nomination.
The idea is there's constant smooth governance, where they introduce and brief the successor's team on what's going on. In theory (and tbf in practice) it's tended to work pretty well.Begs the question why is the transition period so flaming drawn out over there.Guessing they've never been exposed to these kind of shenanigans before,but maybe might think about a review of this protocol?
Numbers of Republicans who now believe election was rigged is absurd.The stupidity of Trumps actiions
'I won't vote next time': could Georgia Republicans' doubts cost them the runoffs?
As Trump relentlessly pushes false claims of fraud, some fear lower turnout – while poll workers fear for their safetywww.theguardian.com
Probably the last positive thing he'll do for the next 4 years if Republicans hold onto Senate majorityEven Mitch McConnell has deserted him
They recon it’s already going to come back to bite the republicans in the senate run offs with a low republican turnouts handing unexpected victories to the democrats.92% of republican voters think the election was fraudulent!! Well done President Trump - good luck putting that genie back in the box
They recon it’s already going to come back to bite the republicans in the senate run offs with a low republican turnouts handing unexpected victories to the democrats.
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