Grendel
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I haven't actually called them conservative. You're the one who tried to claim they're far-left, which is full on insane.
I think countries like Iran have mostly state ownership of means of production
I haven't actually called them conservative. You're the one who tried to claim they're far-left, which is full on insane.
That is not what makes them conservative or not.
So rightist traits become leftist traits when they're exported?
Have we got you right there?
In some circumstances yes. If they’re trying to overturn/change that nation’s society into something new
They see themselves as preserving their own traditional values. No different to Christian fundamentalists in the US.That’s what the word conservative means. To conserve. Be hesitant of change
They see themselves as preserving their own traditional values. No different to Christian fundamentalists in the US.
That. Is. Not. The. Definition.But they are the values of this country. So from our point of view they represent radical change. It’s not conservatism to us
Uptick? Do you mean "increase"?I don't see any evidence from this year that suggests it's even close. I have noticed an uptick in public disorder in Democratic parts of the country who don't want Trump's fascist interference in their states/towns/cities. When masked goons are going around these areas just randomly grabbing people off the street, people understandably won't tolerate it.
There was no armed insurrection to attempt to prevent Trump taking power this year either, unlike what Trump himself incited after he lost in 2020. It also remains to be seen what the motive of Kirk's murderer was which we can't know until he's been caught.
Is that really why you're angry at the post?Uptick? Do you mean "increase"?
They completely fit with definition 1. Massive own goal.
Sums the man up.
This in the replies is nuts too
As if any proof were needed that he cares about no one and nothing but himself.
Can we not just ask someone from Hamas to fill in one of those Political Compass surveys and be done with it once and for all?This is one of the most insane things i've ever read on here.
Caves rebranded as safe spacesISIS are scary enough. But Woke ISIS?
Caves rebranded as safe spaces
Mandatory tribal land acknowledgment ceremonies before all suicide bombings.Caves rebranded as safe spaces
In the west they aren’t Conservative. Conservatism means to conserve.
There is nothing in the west that Islamic fundamentalists want to conserve
Sorry fella, but you've had a mare here. I'm heading to the game shortly but, briefly:Left wing:
State ownership of assets
The rights of society are greater than the individual
Borders and countries don’t matter. We’re all one
Right wing:
Private ownership of assets
The rights of the individual are greater than society
Borders and countries matter. Nationality is important.
Now please explain which of these Islamic fundamentalism is most like?
Why does nothing surprise me anymore?WTF - absolutely mental.
Very true and if it gets challenged you get the inevitable fake news/he didn’t say it crap.Why does nothing surprise me anymore?
5 years ago or so and I too would have been WTFing, but it no longer stuns me. I almost half expect anything and everything to be on the table these days.
AI QUESTION AND ANSWER BELOWWTF - absolutely mental.
Natural progression of capitalism it’s what Xian friends fear with the living will stuffWTF - absolutely mental.
How did the clown keep his job. Utterly disgusting.AI QUESTION AND ANSWER BELOW
A commentator on Fox News just said "or involuntary lethal injection just kill them" in reference to homeless people living on the streets who refuse help. Who was it and what can you tell me about him?
The commentator was Brian Kilmeade, a longtime co-host of Fox News' morning show Fox & Friends. On September 10, 2025, during a segment discussing a violent incident in Charlotte, North Carolina, involving a homeless individual with schizophrenia, Kilmeade interjected into a conversation about forcing mental health treatment on unhoused people who refuse help. Co-host Lawrence Jones had argued that billions had been spent on programs but that some individuals needed to be compelled to accept resources or face jail time. Kilmeade then quipped, "Or uh, involuntary lethal injection. Or something. Just kill 'em," before the discussion moved on without much pushback from his co-hosts, Ainsley Earhardt and Jones. The clip resurfaced and went viral on September 13, sparking widespread backlash, including calls for his firing from figures like Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) and the National Coalition for the Homeless.Kilmeade, 62, has been a fixture at Fox News since 1998 and has co-hosted Fox & Friends since 2006, making it the network's highest-rated program. Born in New York City to Irish immigrant parents, he began his career in radio as a traffic reporter before moving into sports broadcasting, including stints at Westwood One and ESPN Radio. He's authored several books, mostly on history and leadership (e.g., The Games Do Count: America's Best and Brightest on the Power of Sports in 2007), and hosts a syndicated radio show, The Brian Kilmeade Show. Known for his conservative commentary, Kilmeade often covers politics, sports, and culture, and has interviewed presidents from both parties. He's married to Gail Kilmeade, with whom he has three children, and lives in New York. The comment drew a biblical rebuke from California Gov. Gavin Newsom on social media, and Kilmeade issued an on-air apology on September 14, calling it "a poor choice of words" and clarifying he meant to highlight the need for better mental health interventions, not literal violence. Fox News has not suspended him as of today.
Again it’s the argument that has been made against right wing trumpites. They don’t see the irony it’s a warIt's so hypocritical isn't it.
How can you be all for free speech, whilst quashing free speech when it suits?