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Trump is my favourite comedian of the year already (16 Viewers)

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Sick Boy

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  • Yesterday at 9:27 PM
  • #13,581
Mucca Mad Boys said:
My bad, as soon as I posted the thought crossed that you/others weren’t talking about Charlie Kirk!

Nick Fuentes and Candace Owens are odd figures.
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I feel lucky that I don’t know who any of these people are.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 9:28 PM
  • #13,582
Sick Boy said:
I feel lucky that I don’t know who any of these people are.
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yeah save yourself from them both.
 

Evo1883

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  • Yesterday at 9:28 PM
  • #13,583
Sky Blue Pete said:
Trump wasn’t shot
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You have to file that under " things I think didnt happen " rather than "things I know for sure "
 
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Otis

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  • Yesterday at 9:28 PM
  • #13,584
chiefdave said:
Exactly, people more concerned about blaming 'the other side' be that the left or the right. And some desperate desire to post who the shooter is or some other information.

How often do we get early 'facts' that turn out to be incorrect but by then it's too late, the outrage has been unleashed.
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Yeah. Indeed.

I haven't commented on who may or who may not have shot this Kirk guy, or the reasoning behind it

Sometimes (more often than not) it's best to let the dust settle a bit and not just jump to instant conclusions.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 9:29 PM
  • #13,585
CCFCSteve said:
Its tearing the West apart and no doubt actively ‘encouraged’ by Russia, China, Iran etc

People are just hearing and seeing what they think or believe all the time now, so can’t seem to empathise with other peoples views at all. Throw in the numerous divisions intentionally being sown by both sides over the past 10 years or so, whether that’s race, gender, class etc etc and a total lack of critical thinking (people just accept what they’re seeing/being told) and it’s no surprise we’re becoming more and more polarised

I’m not immune to this by the way and anyone who thinks they are is deluded.

*drafted this earlier but didn’t press send. Just seen the news about Charlie Kirk shooting, whatever his political views, horrific.
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The algorithm sends people down rabbit holes to reaffirm their views and dismiss alternatives. Democratic politicians in Minnesota were shot dead earlier in the year, and Tim Walz was on the hit list before the killer was apprehended.

I haven't seriously used Twitter/X since my early 20s, YouTube is about the only social media I browse regularly and I basically never see material from the 'other' side of the political divide. Going outside and talking to real people while realising they actually aren't that different to you is the antidote to this shite.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Yesterday at 9:30 PM
  • #13,586
CCFCSteve said:
Its tearing the West apart and no doubt actively ‘encouraged’ by Russia, China, Iran etc

People are just hearing and seeing what they think or believe all the time now, so can’t seem to empathise with other peoples views at all. Throw in the numerous divisions intentionally being sown by both sides over the past 10 years or so, whether that’s race, gender, class etc etc and a total lack of critical thinking (people just accept what they’re seeing/being told) and it’s no surprise we’re becoming more and more polarised

I’m not immune to this by the way and anyone who thinks they are is deluded.

*drafted this earlier but didn’t press send. Just seen the news about Charlie Kirk shooting, whatever his political views, horrific.
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They’ve actively been doing it for a decade at least and look how divided we’ve ended up across the west as a whole.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 9:30 PM
  • #13,587
Mucca Mad Boys said:
My bad, as soon as I posted the thought crossed that you/others weren’t talking about Charlie Kirk!

Nick Fuentes and Candace Owens are odd figures.
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They're on the right wing grift train, Kirk however is quite different given how much organising he has done. I despise his political opinions but can respect what he's done for the American right.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Yesterday at 9:32 PM
  • #13,588
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The algorithm sends people down rabbit holes to reaffirm their views and dismiss alternatives. Democratic politicians in Minnesota were shot dead earlier in the year, and Tim Walz was on the hit list before the killer was apprehended.

I haven't seriously used Twitter/X since my early 20s, YouTube is about the only social media I browse regularly and I basically never see material from the 'other' side of the political divide. Going outside and talking to real people while realising they actually aren't that different to you is the antidote to this shite.
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This is true. I have a lot of friends who’d I say are quite far to the right but it has no impact on our friendship whatsoever.
 
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PVA

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  • Yesterday at 9:33 PM
  • #13,589
Brighton Sky Blue said:
They're on the right wing grift train, Kirk however is quite different given how much organising he has done. I despise his political opinions but can respect what he's done for the American right.
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Kirk may not be a nazi but he has been very open with some fucking awful opinions, mistruths and conspiracy theories.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 9:34 PM
  • #13,590
Sick Boy said:
This is true. I have a lot of friends who’d I say are quite far to the right but it has no impact on our friendship whatsoever.
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The online rabbit holes are what have got a worrying number of teenage boys hooked on Andrew Tate. They get far enough down the rabbit hole and it's very hard to get them out of it.
 
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PVA

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  • Yesterday at 9:36 PM
  • #13,591
Mucca Mad Boys said:
So naturally, deserves to be shot…
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2+2=77558

Very smart, well done.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 9:36 PM
  • #13,592
Mucca Mad Boys said:
So naturally, deserves to be shot…
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he did not say that. what an odd conclusion to jump to
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 9:37 PM
  • #13,593
PVA said:
Kirk may not be a nazi but he has been very open with some fucking awful opinions, mistruths and conspiracy theories.
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I mean he's odious but doesn't deserve shooting because of his views. All that killing him would do is turn him into a martyr and drive even bigger divisions between people.

Which is why it's a bloody good thing that the sniper who tried to kill Trump was a poor shot. I think that really would have set a civil war off.
 
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PVA

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  • Yesterday at 9:39 PM
  • #13,594
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I mean he's odious but doesn't deserve shooting because of his views. All that killing him would do is turn him into a martyr and drive even bigger divisions between people.

Which is why it's a bloody good thing that the sniper who tried to kill Trump was a poor shot. I think that really would have set a civil war off.
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Oh I agree with all of that.

I struggle to have much sympathy for him because of his views, particularly on guns. But that doesn't mean I think he deserves to be shot.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Yesterday at 9:40 PM
  • #13,595
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I mean he's odious but doesn't deserve shooting because of his views. All that killing him would do is turn him into a martyr and drive even bigger divisions between people.

Which is why it's a bloody good thing that the sniper who tried to kill Trump was a poor shot. I think that really would have set a civil war off.
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I imagine it’s coming
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Yesterday at 9:40 PM
  • #13,596
So there’s not actually a suspect in custody then?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 9:41 PM
  • #13,597
PVA said:
Oh I agree with all of that.

I struggle to have much sympathy for him because of his views, particularly on guns. But that doesn't mean I think he deserves to be shot.
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Throughout history, killing people like him because of their opinions has only strengthened the causes they represented.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 9:41 PM
  • #13,598
Sick Boy said:
So there’s not actually a suspect in custody then?
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apparently the shooters still on the loose
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Yesterday at 9:42 PM
  • #13,599
Confirmed he has died, absolutely devastating
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 9:42 PM
  • #13,600
Sick Boy said:
So there’s not actually a suspect in custody then?
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If he was a sniper shooting from a university building he might well evade capture. If it were a shot from the crowd he'd definitely have been caught already.
 
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fatso

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  • Yesterday at 9:44 PM
  • #13,601
Sky Blue Pete said:
Trump wasn’t shot
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He had a very n-ear miss!
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Yesterday at 9:44 PM
  • #13,602
Brighton Sky Blue said:
They're on the right wing grift train, Kirk however is quite different given how much organising he has done. I despise his political opinions but can respect what he's done for the American right.
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Exactly this. You might not agree with him, but his whole approach was focused around winning the debate properly, around the table. Yet he still ends up getting shot.

If he doesn't survive, anyone that thinks he's not moderate, the guy that comes next is going to surprise some.

What we have seen today is really not the way. I'm glad at least most on here, even with our different range of political views, are in agreement with each other. That's refreshing at least.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Yesterday at 9:44 PM
  • #13,603
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Confirmed he has died, absolutely devastating
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Where’s that reported?
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Yesterday at 9:45 PM
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mmttww

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  • Yesterday at 9:45 PM
  • #13,605
Sick Boy said:
Where’s that reported?
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Confirmed on the BBC now.
 

SIR ERNIE

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 9:45 PM
  • #13,606
A good man gone.
A very sad day.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Yesterday at 9:45 PM
  • #13,607
Just seen it confirmed.
 
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xcraigx

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  • Yesterday at 9:45 PM
  • #13,608
Trump confirmed he's dead.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Yesterday at 9:45 PM
  • #13,609
Think of his poor family
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Yesterday at 9:47 PM
  • #13,610
xcraigx said:
Trump confirmed he's dead.
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TBH I'd still want another source.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Yesterday at 9:47 PM
  • #13,611
Sick Boy said:
Where’s that reported?
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Bbc
Trump truth social
 

TomRad85

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  • Yesterday at 9:47 PM
  • #13,612
A man happy to sit and debate in the open has been publicly executed. I honestly thought it was about to go off over the Ukrainian girl, I think this might give it another almighty shove.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 9:48 PM
  • #13,613
BLM and the left must answer for this
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 9:49 PM
  • #13,614
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Exactly this. You might not agree with him, but his whole approach was focused around winning the debate properly, around the table. Yet he still ends up getting shot.

If he doesn't survive, anyone that thinks he's not moderate, the guy that comes next is going to surprise some.

What we have seen today is really not the way. I'm glad at least most on here, even with our different range of political views, are in agreement with each other. That's refreshing at least.
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In our own country we've had both Labour and Conservative MPs killed in broad daylight while trying to do their jobs. Maybe it's a sign that the rhetoric needs turning down on both sides and that we reset our views with the basic acceptance that people want the best for the country but have differing views on how to achieve it.

I genuinely doubt we're even at that stage in the current climate.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Yesterday at 9:49 PM
  • #13,615
Ccfcisparks said:
BLM and the left must answer for this
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Huh
Surely the person that pulled the trigger should pay
 
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