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fatso

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  • Yesterday at 10:49 AM
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shmmeee said:
Post qualifications and experience or admit you’re an idiot who believes anything someone tells him online with enough confidence.
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Or you could look past your rediculous prejudice and actually close this forum down (just for 5 minutes, if you can, it won't kill you)
And go and do some serious research on the subject.
Go and find the medical papers, go and listen to the qualified doctors who are brave enough to speak out.

Or you could spend your life in denial posting shite a thousand times a day on a random football forum.
 
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Grendel

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  • Yesterday at 10:56 AM
  • #12,567
fatso said:
Or you could look past your rediculous prejudice and actually close this forum down (just for 5 minutes, if you can, it won't kill you)
And go and do some serious research on the subject.
Go and find the medical papers, go and listen to the qualified doctors who are brave enough to speak out.

Or you could spend your life in denial posting shite a thousand times a day on a random football forum.
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Doctors like Andrew Wakefield?
 

fatso

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  • Yesterday at 11:03 AM
  • #12,568
Grendel said:
Doctors like Andrew Wakefield?
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Im not aware of doctor Wakefield,

Dr John Campbell would be a doctor to look at, hes retired since covid, so can speak freely, hes one who originally was advising everyone to have the "vaccine" but since covid ended hes done an enormous amount of research into the subject and has been in contact with countless other doctors, surgeons, pharmacists and coroners etc, and is now an adviser to the NHS on the subject.

He has plenty of interviews with medical experts that you can watch if you have a genuine interest.
 

Captain Dart

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  • Yesterday at 11:09 AM
  • #12,569
fatso said:
We arnt talking about a vaccine, mrna spike protein is gene therapy, not a vaccine in the traditional sense.
A vaccine as most people understand it is a weakened or inactive form of a viral infection, that triggers your immune system to start producing anti bodies in readiness to fight that virus, should it be encountered in the future.

That's not what a mrna spike protein does.
But how many people would of been so willing to have an experimental gene therapy cocktail injected into them if I wasn't called a vaccine?
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Calling mRNA therapies vaccines was not only done to associate them with something the majority of the public regards as 'safe & effective' but also to avoid liability for harms they might do.

In the UK vaccine liability is borne by tax payers and limited to £120,000 after a minimum of 60% disablement which in my view is wholly inadequate considering what 60% disabled means & of course diddly squat for up to 59% disabled, the scheme desperately needs reform. It's relatively rare this happens but it does and the covid vaccines proved much more harmful than traditional vaccines especially in 2021 I think because of poor quality control in the mad rush to provide enough doses to jab anybody and everybody.

Vaccine Damage Payment

A Vaccine Damage Payment is a one-off tax-free payment of £120,000 if you're severely disabled as a result of vaccination against certain diseases - what you'll get, eligibility and applying.
www.gov.uk
 
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chiefdave

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  • Yesterday at 11:16 AM
  • #12,570
fatso said:
Dr John Campbell would be a doctor to look at
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this guy?
John Lorimer Campbell is an English YouTuber and retired nurse educator who has made videos about the COVID-19 pandemic. Initially, the videos received praise, but they later diverged into COVID-19 misinformation. He has been criticised for suggesting COVID-19 deaths have been over-counted, repeating false claims about the use of ivermectin as a COVID-19 treatment, and providing misleading commentary about the safety of COVID-19 vaccines.
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Campbell – who was neither a scientist nor a medical doctor
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Campbell had become a source of misinformation
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Campbell gave an error-filled account of an article published in the New England Journal of Medicine and falsely claimed that it showed the risk to children from COVID-19 vaccination was much greater than the risk of getting seriously ill from COVID-19 itself
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Campbell posted a video in which he made selective use of statistics to make the misleading claim that COVID-19 vaccines were so harmful that they should be withdrawn. The paper he used was in reality only considering hospitalisations from COVID-19 in a short time window, and not the overall vaccine risk/benefit balance.
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Campbell misrepresented a warning from the CDC, claiming that the CDC had said vaccinated people were more at risk from a new COVID variant than unvaccinated ones
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Science is about consensus, you can take any topic and find a handful of nutcases that will argue your chosen cause
 
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fatso

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  • Yesterday at 11:22 AM
  • #12,571
Captain Dart said:
Calling mRNA therapies vaccines was not only done to associate them with something the majority of the public regards as 'safe & effective' but also to avoid liability for harms they might do.

In the UK vaccine liability is borne by tax payers and limited to £120,00 after a minimum of 60% disablement which in my view is wholly inadequate considering what 60% disabled means & of course diddly squat for up to 59% disabled, the scheme desperately needs reform. It's relatively rare this happens but it does and the covid vaccines proved much more harmful than traditional vaccines especially in 2021 I think because of poor quality control in the mad rush to provide enough doses to jab anybody and everybody.

Vaccine Damage Payment

A Vaccine Damage Payment is a one-off tax-free payment of £120,000 if you're severely disabled as a result of vaccination against certain diseases - what you'll get, eligibility and applying.
www.gov.uk
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It truelly is shocking the way the global population were duped into taking a gene therapy which was previously classed as unsuitable for use on humans.
Over 70% of the worlds people have had at least 1 dose of MRNA which is staggering when you consider the speed of the global roll out.

There are now peer reviewed medical white papers that prove the harm done to patients, including auto immune problems such as shingles etc and going upto major heart issues, strokes, brain tumours, and turbo cancers. Many of these health issues are presenting in young people who normally wouldn't be expected to exhibit any such problems.

We're not talking about flat earth or contrail conspiracy bollocks here, this is proven fact, that is genuinely shocking for anyone who daring to look into it.
 
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fatso

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  • Yesterday at 11:27 AM
  • #12,572
chiefdave said:
this guy?






Science is about consensus, you can take any topic and find a handful of nutcases that will argue your chosen cause
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That's the guy, I noticed that you've posted all the comments from those trying to shut him down and silence him.

The time it took you to do that would mean you havnt bothered to actually listen to what hes saying.

Why not at least listen to his information within open mind, read the facts, look at the correlation between the "vaccine" roll out and the surge in heart problems and turbo cancers (a term not used before covid 19)

Go and watch the interviews with the coroners conducting autopsies on the young and listen to what they're finding.

Go take the time to listen and learn what's happening, not just here but in every country where the jab was given.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 11:33 AM
  • #12,573
fatso said:
We arnt talking about a vaccine, mrna spike protein is gene therapy, not a vaccine in the traditional sense.
A vaccine as most people understand it is a weakened or inactive form of a viral infection, that triggers your immune system to start producing anti bodies in readiness to fight that virus, should it be encountered in the future.

That's not what a mrna spike protein does.
But how many people would of been so willing to have an experimental gene therapy cocktail injected into them if I wasn't called a vaccine?
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An mRNA vaccine works by getting your cells to express the same antigen as the pathogen, without being exposed to the pathogen in any form. It therefore achieves the same purpose of the vaccine with if anything greater safety to the person receiving it.

Nobody called you a vaccine.
 
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SBT

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  • Yesterday at 11:36 AM
  • #12,574
fatso said:
It truelly is shocking the way the global population were duped into taking a gene therapy which was previously classed as unsuitable for use on humans.
Over 70% of the worlds people have had at least 1 dose of MRNA which is staggering when you consider the speed of the global roll out.
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Truelly shocking indeed, how long do you think we have left?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 11:37 AM
  • #12,575
SBT said:
Truelly shocking indeed, how long do you think we have left?
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He just wanted to make like Boris Johnson and stack the bodies high, leave him alone
 
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SBT

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  • Yesterday at 11:39 AM
  • #12,576
How many people would willingly eat a Big Mac if it was called a Big Reformed Offal Coagulation Glob instead? Not many I would wager.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Yesterday at 11:41 AM
  • #12,577
fatso said:
That's the guy, I noticed that you've posted all the comments from those trying to shut him down and silence him.

The time it took you to do that would mean you havnt bothered to actually listen to what hes saying.

Why not at least listen to his information within open mind, read the facts, look at the correlation between the "vaccine" roll out and the surge in heart problems and turbo cancers (a term not used before covid 19)

Go and watch the interviews with the coroners conducting autopsies on the young and listen to what they're finding.

Go take the time to listen and learn what's happening, not just here but in every country where the jab was given.
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Genuine question, why would I spend my time listening to someone who is known to spread proven false information? There's a huge number of people qualified to speak about this subject, do you listen to all of them and check their sources or just believe this chap because he happens to align with your viewpoint?

Presumably you think that all governments, the vast majority of scientist and the vast majority of healthcare professionals in pretty much every country on the planet are lying to you. Ignoring the virtual impossibility of this on a practical level, why would they all agree to this?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 11:49 AM
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chiefdave said:
Genuine question, why would I spend my time listening to someone who is known to spread proven false information? There's a huge number of people qualified to speak about this subject, do you listen to all of them and check their sources or just believe this chap because he happens to align with your viewpoint?

Presumably you think that all governments, the vast majority of scientist and the vast majority of healthcare professionals in pretty much every country on the planet are lying to you. Ignoring the virtual impossibility of this on a practical level, why would they all agree to this?
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Well, somebody with his views is now in charge of American health and overseeing outbreaks of diseases that are entirely preventable with the vaccines he's afraid of.
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Yesterday at 11:51 AM
  • #12,579
chiefdave said:
this guy?






Science is about consensus, you can take any topic and find a handful of nutcases that will argue your chosen cause
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I don't particularly find Campbell all that informative he tends to analyse and explain in layman's terms single medical papers, however calling him a nutcase is absurd, he taught nurses for many years and wrote a text book based on his courses.

Campbell's Pathophysiology Notes: Amazon.co.uk: Campbell, John Lorimer: 9780955379703: Books

Buy Campbell's Pathophysiology Notes by Campbell, John Lorimer (ISBN: 9780955379703) from Amazon's Book Store. Everyday low prices and free delivery on eligible orders.
www.amazon.co.uk
 

Captain Dart

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  • Yesterday at 11:53 AM
  • #12,580
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Well, somebody with his views is now in charge of American health and overseeing outbreaks of diseases that are entirely preventable with the vaccines he's afraid of.
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If you think vaccines entirely prevent disease then you're misinformed.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Yesterday at 11:57 AM
  • #12,581
Captain Dart said:
If you think vaccines entirely prevent disease then you're misinformed.
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Or are completely safe however they are almost single handedly with antibiotics the reason most of us live long healthy lives
 
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SBT

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  • Yesterday at 12:03 PM
  • #12,582
Captain Dart said:
I don't particularly find Campbell all that informative he tends to analyse and explain in layman's terms single medical papers, however calling him a nutcase is absurd, he taught nurses for many years and wrote a text book based on his courses.

Campbell's Pathophysiology Notes: Amazon.co.uk: Campbell, John Lorimer: 9780955379703: Books

Buy Campbell's Pathophysiology Notes by Campbell, John Lorimer (ISBN: 9780955379703) from Amazon's Book Store. Everyday low prices and free delivery on eligible orders.
www.amazon.co.uk
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You know who else taught nurses for many years and wrote some text books? The entire global medical establishment.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 12:09 PM
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Captain Dart said:
If you think vaccines entirely prevent disease then you're misinformed.
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Not every disease can be prevented by vaccination. However, diseases such as polio, measles and smallpox are entirely preventable by vaccination.

Would you rather have polio or the polio vaccine, out of interest?
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 12:18 PM
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chiefdave said:
this guy?






Science is about consensus, you can take any topic and find a handful of nutcases that will argue your chosen cause
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He's not even a doctor of medicine is he? Isnt he a nurse?
 

Captain Dart

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  • Yesterday at 12:18 PM
  • #12,585
chiefdave said:
Genuine question, why would I spend my time listening to someone who is known to spread proven false information? There's a huge number of people qualified to speak about this subject, do you listen to all of them and check their sources or just believe this chap because he happens to align with your viewpoint?

Presumably you think that all governments, the vast majority of scientist and the vast majority of healthcare professionals in pretty much every country on the planet are lying to you. Ignoring the virtual impossibility of this on a practical level, why would they all agree to this?
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There is no doubt in my mind that not everybody in the medical profession is ethical all the time and they'll protect themselves rather than admit to mistakes or any shortcomings in the treatments they advise.

Ending Medical Gaslighting

How the institution of medicine covers up the inevitable harms of its unsafe therapeutic toolbox.
www.midwesterndoctor.com
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 12:27 PM
  • #12,586
Captain Dart said:

Ending Medical Gaslighting

How the institution of medicine covers up the inevitable harms of its unsafe therapeutic toolbox.
www.midwesterndoctor.com
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Which of these diseases would you prefer to have instead of the corresponding vaccine?

Polio
Smallpox
Measles
Flu
TB
Whooping cough
Diphtheria
Tetanus
 
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fatso

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  • Yesterday at 12:27 PM
  • #12,587
chiefdave said:
Genuine question, why would I spend my time listening to someone who is known to spread proven false information? There's a huge number of people qualified to speak about this subject, do you listen to all of them and check their sources or just believe this chap because he happens to align with your viewpoint?

Presumably you think that all governments, the vast majority of scientist and the vast majority of healthcare professionals in pretty much every country on the planet are lying to you. Ignoring the virtual impossibility of this on a practical level, why would they all agree to this?
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If you choose not to believe it, or not to look into it, then that's fine, its entirely up to you.

Im not going to argue with you about it, I have no need to prove anything to you or anyone else. I've a very good idea of what's happening, and if anyone doesn't want to know or doesn't want to hear it, or would be comfortable thinking its all bollocks, then that's fine.
You carry on son.
 

fatso

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  • Yesterday at 12:31 PM
  • #12,588
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Which of these diseases would you prefer to have instead of the corresponding vaccine?

Polio
Smallpox
Measles
Flu
TB
Whooping cough
Diphtheria
Tetanus
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I'd be happy to be vaccinated against any of those if I were likely to be exposed.

Do you understand the difference between a vaccine and gene therapy?
 

Captain Dart

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  • Yesterday at 12:59 PM
  • #12,589
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Which of these diseases would you prefer to have instead of the corresponding vaccine?

Polio
Smallpox
Measles
Flu
TB
Whooping cough
Diphtheria
Tetanus
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I had measles, it was a few days feeling poorly that's all. I also had Scarlet Fever for which there has never been a vaccine, pretty much the same a few days feeling poorly & confined to my bed. This was when I was maybe 6 or 7. It's nutritionally compromised and medically vulnerable children that may suffer more. Anyway the MMR vaccine isn't risk free, the US Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) records more deaths after MMR injections than measles deaths.




The UK does not routinely vaccinate against TB as part of the NHS vaccination schedule though when I was 13 everybody as school was given a jab, later the practice was discontinued. The NHS advises that the BCG vaccine helps protect against tuberculosis (TB). Doesn't that imply it can't prevent TB infections.

There are pros and cons to all these treatments. You must make your own decisions, I guess we don't agree but I am firm in my believe it is unethical to force anyone to accept medical treatment they don't want for whatever reason.
 
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rondog1973

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  • Yesterday at 1:04 PM
  • #12,590
fatso said:
I'd be happy to be vaccinated against any of those if I were likely to be exposed.

Do you understand the difference between a vaccine and gene therapy?
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Surely you're less likely to be exposed because of the success of their respective vaccination programs?
 
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mmttww

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  • Yesterday at 1:04 PM
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fatso said:
go and do some serious research on the subject.
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I think people involved in vaccination programmes probs. do a lil' bit of that as well tbf. Love antivaxxers, though. Good for a LOL. "Bring back small pox!" innit.
 

Grendel

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  • Yesterday at 1:07 PM
  • #12,592
fatso said:
Im not aware of doctor Wakefield,

Dr John Campbell would be a doctor to look at, hes retired since covid, so can speak freely, hes one who originally was advising everyone to have the "vaccine" but since covid ended hes done an enormous amount of research into the subject and has been in contact with countless other doctors, surgeons, pharmacists and coroners etc, and is now an adviser to the NHS on the subject.

He has plenty of interviews with medical experts that you can watch if you have a genuine interest.
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He’s not a doctor. He’s not a scientist. It’s not great you don’t seem to even know that.

If you are claiming he’s a “doctor” for his PHD at the world renowned University of Bolton for developing a teaching on line course technique for nursing well it’s pretty misleading. A bit like “Doctor” Campbell
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 1:09 PM
  • #12,593
Captain Dart said:
I had measles, it was a few days feeling poorly that's all. I also had Scarlet Fever for which there has never been a vaccine, pretty much the same a few days feeling poorly & confined to my bed. This was when I was maybe 6 or 7. It's nutritionally compromised and medically vulnerable children that may suffer more. Anyway the MMR vaccine isn't risk free, the US Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) records more deaths after MMR injections than measles deaths.

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The UK does not routinely vaccinate against TB as part of the NHS vaccination schedule though when I was 13 everybody as school was given a jab, later the practice was discontinued. The NHS advises that the BCG vaccine helps protect against tuberculosis (TB). Doesn't that imply it can't prevent TB infections.

There are pros and cons to all these treatments. You must make your own decisions, I guess we don't agree but I am firm in my believe it is unethical to force anyone to accept medical treatment they don't want for whatever reason.
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It’s unethical for children to catch and potentially die from diseases for no good reason other than their parents’ stupidity.
 
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SBT

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  • Yesterday at 1:14 PM
  • #12,594
fatso said:
Im not going to argue with you about it, I have no need to prove anything to you or anyone else.
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This may be the most egregious lie of the lot. How I wish it were true.
 

fatso

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  • Yesterday at 1:15 PM
  • #12,595
SBT said:
This may be the most egregious lie of the lot. How I wish it were true.
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Nothing of value to add again i see.

There's a suprise.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 1:18 PM
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fatso said:
I'd be happy to be vaccinated against any of those if I were likely to be exposed.

Do you understand the difference between a vaccine and gene therapy?
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I explained to you in simple terms how the mRNA vaccine works.
 

fatso

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  • Yesterday at 1:20 PM
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Grendel said:
He’s not a doctor. He’s not a scientist. It’s not great you don’t seem to even know that.

If you are claiming he’s a “doctor” for his PHD at the world renowned University of Bolton for developing a teaching on line course technique for nursing well it’s pretty misleading. A bit like “Doctor” Campbell
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He's way more qualified than you or I, he also interviews highly qualified experts on his chanel, doctors, surgeons, pathologists, virologists, coroners etc etc. if you spent as much time educating yourself as you do trying to poo poo the truth (for some bizare reason) you might be more relevant.

Good luck.
 
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fatso

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  • Yesterday at 1:22 PM
  • #12,598
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I explained to you in simple terms how the mRNA vaccine works.
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Oh, so your the expert now are you!

So explain to us about the DNA in the "vaccine" then.
You know, the element that's been proven to be there beyond doubt, and is causing massive issues with people's imune systems.
 

Grendel

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  • Yesterday at 1:24 PM
  • #12,599
fatso said:
He's way more qualified than you or I, he also interviews highly qualified experts on his chanel, doctors, surgeons, pathologists, virologists, coroners etc etc. if you spent as much time educating yourself as you do trying to poo poo the truth (for some bizare reason) you might be more relevant.

Good luck.
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I don’t think he’s qualified on the topic at all. He’s also a creationist which fits in well with his crank theories.
 
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fatso

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  • Yesterday at 1:25 PM
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rondog1973 said:
Surely you're less likely to be exposed because of the success of their respective vaccination programs?
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Quite probably.
But the issue here isnt about traditional vaccines, its about a gene therapy being termed a vaccine when it clearly isnt.
 
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