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Trump is my favourite comedian of the year already (17 Viewers)

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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 28, 2021
  • #3,711
skybluetony176 said:
The state of Yemen is worse. Apparently we’re the second largest supplier of arms to Saudi Arabia to use in the conflict and the single biggest supplier of aid to the victims. Go figure.
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Yep we’re complicit and tosspots
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 28, 2021
  • #3,712
Ian1779 said:
Let’s be honest, it’s about time the West generally stopped fucking interfering elsewhere - which for some will be an unpopular position. The USA and the UK were the main protagonists in helping to create the power vacuum the saw the creation and rise of ISIS.
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Then we leave the Chinese treatment of the muslims in their country without action
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 28, 2021
  • #3,713
Sky Blue Pete said:
Then we leave the Chinese treatment of the muslims in their country without action
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I’m not saying we should do that - but in the last 15 years have we had good foreign policy? Selling weapons to the Saudis for example.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 28, 2021
  • #3,714
Ian1779 said:
I’m not saying we should do that - but in the last 15 years have we had good foreign policy? Selling weapons to the Saudis for example.
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I know I was saying it to myself
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 28, 2021
  • #3,715
Awful stories coming out of Ethiopia too
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 28, 2021
  • #3,716
shmmeee said:
You want the Conservative and Unionist Party to push to break up the Union?
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They're about as for union as Labour are for labour. A break up of the UK would cement the one party state they're constructing at the moment.
 

tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 1, 2021
  • #3,717
Ian1779 said:
Let’s be honest, it’s about time the West generally stopped fucking interfering elsewhere - which for some will be an unpopular position. The USA and the UK were the main protagonists in helping to create the power vacuum the saw the creation and rise of ISIS.
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It's either everyone stops interfering or no-one does.
Syrian conflict was drawn out as Russia backed Assad for their own purposes. Iraq and Yemen will continue to be proxy battlegrounds for proponents of either side of Islamic "war" as someone will arm them.
The West stops selling arms to certain parties then Chinese and Russian manufacturers will step in.
You can't take an international NIMBY approach when other nation states will look to capitalise.
What these conflicts highlight is how ineffectual the UN is particularly on security issues when certain countries can veto measures to serve their own interests.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 1, 2021
  • #3,718
skybluetony176 said:
The state of Yemen is worse. Apparently we’re the second largest supplier of arms to Saudi Arabia to use in the conflict and the single biggest supplier of aid to the victims. Go figure.
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Scrap that. Seems we’ve lost what little conscience we had left.
Redirect Notice
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 9, 2021
  • #3,719
Well will he go for it with his own party ,a Teaparty revival .
What about an offspring or a Nigel like runner to swing the Rep's his way ?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 9, 2021
  • #3,720
wingy said:
Well will he go for it with his own party ,a Teaparty revival .
What about an offspring or a Nigel like runner to swing the Rep's his way ?
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Why would he? He’s the most powerful Republican politician by a long way. They’ll keep dancing to his tune while we still controls so much of their voter base.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 9, 2021
  • #3,721
shmmeee said:
Why would he? He’s the most powerful Republican politician by a long way. They’ll keep dancing to his tune while we still controls so much of their voter base.
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And they'll lose even in places thought to be safe seats for them as he is toxic to the non republican base.
 

SomersetSB

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #3,722
Omg what a state,Doesn’t know what day it is!!!
Biden completely forgets what he’s talking about and mumbles incoherently at camera in excruciating press conference

Confused Biden walks away from podium in middle of question after mumbling

CONFUSED Joe Biden completely forgot what he was talking about and mumbled incoherently at the camera before walking away from the podium mid-question in an excruciating press conference. The presi…
www.thesun.co.uk
 
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Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #3,723
It’sabatch87 said:
Omg what a state,Doesn’t know what day it is!!!
Biden completely forgets what he’s talking about and mumbles incoherently at camera in excruciating press conference

Confused Biden walks away from podium in middle of question after mumbling

CONFUSED Joe Biden completely forgot what he was talking about and mumbled incoherently at the camera before walking away from the podium mid-question in an excruciating press conference. The presi…
www.thesun.co.uk
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Cheers Sunbot
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2021
  • #3,724
It’sabatch87 said:
Omg what a state,Doesn’t know what day it is!!!
Biden completely forgets what he’s talking about and mumbles incoherently at camera in excruciating press conference

Confused Biden walks away from podium in middle of question after mumbling

CONFUSED Joe Biden completely forgot what he was talking about and mumbled incoherently at the camera before walking away from the podium mid-question in an excruciating press conference. The presi…
www.thesun.co.uk
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I think he's got your login
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2021
  • #3,725
It’sabatch87 said:
Omg what a state,Doesn’t know what day it is!!!
Biden completely forgets what he’s talking about and mumbles incoherently at camera in excruciating press conference

Confused Biden walks away from podium in middle of question after mumbling

CONFUSED Joe Biden completely forgot what he was talking about and mumbled incoherently at the camera before walking away from the podium mid-question in an excruciating press conference. The presi…
www.thesun.co.uk
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Did you even watch the video?
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Mar 26, 2021
  • #3,726
The Sun said:
QAnon Rep Marjorie Taylor Greene questioned how fit the president is to serve.


"Joe Biden is stumbling so badly that he can’t even answer questions in a manner that makes sense," she tweeted.
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Forget the actual report, should a major media source be giving oxygen to these nutters? They're hardly appropriate political commentators!
 
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ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2021
  • #3,727
I can't believe the lunatic who tried to impeach Biden on his first day would think he's unfit for office. Although when you see what else she thinks it's actually a ringing endorsement of his suitability.


Greene has promoted multiple baseless conspiracy theories, including the claim that Hillary Clinton is responsible for a series of murders; that Democratic Party elites are responsible for a satanic child sex trafficking ring; that the government orchestrated the 2017 Las Vegas shooting; that the Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida, was a "false flag" attack intended to help introduce gun control; that the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting was staged; that Barack Obama and his advisor Valerie Jarrett were secretly Muslim and that the September 11 attack on the Pentagon was fake. Greene also promoted the false anti-Semitic conspiracy claim that the 2018 Camp Fire, a deadly wildfire in California, was caused by Rothschild Inc. "space solar generators".

Greene has said there are links between Hillary Clinton and pedophilia and human sacrifice and, in 2017, speculated that the Pizzagate conspiracy theory is real. Greene claimed Clinton murdered her political enemies in a revival of the "Clinton Kill List" conspiracy theory.[7] In one of her own videos, posted to YouTube in 2018, Greene suggested John F. Kennedy Jr.'s death in a plane crash in 1999 was a "Clinton murder" because he was a possible rival to her for a New York senate seat.

Greene supported the debunked far-right QAnon conspiracy theory, saying in videos posted in 2017 on Facebook that the theories were "worth listening to". She stated in a video, "There's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to take this global cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophiles out, and I think we have the president to do it."
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ITSAPIZZAGATE87
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2021
  • #3,728
shmmeee said:
Did you even watch the video?
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Clearly not as what the Sun say it shows it clearly doesn't

Itsatwat is our own fake news bot
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2021
  • #3,729

Dominion Voting sues Fox News for $1.6bn over election fraud claims

Conservatives baselessly claimed that Dominion Voting System rigged the 2020 vote against Donald Trump.
www.bbc.co.uk
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 26, 2021
  • #3,730
Deleted member 5849 said:
Forget the actual report, should a major media source be giving oxygen to these nutters? They're hardly appropriate political commentators!
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Was going to say that even for their low standards the articles plunges to new depths.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2021
  • #3,731

Democrats plan to unveil legislation to expand the US supreme court by four seats

Proposal, aimed at breaking up a conservative majority on the court, is predicted to draw opposition from Republicans
www.theguardian.com


i remember when a certain southern based sky blue laughed at me when I said they would do this
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2021
  • #3,732
David O'Day said:

Democrats plan to unveil legislation to expand the US supreme court by four seats

Proposal, aimed at breaking up a conservative majority on the court, is predicted to draw opposition from Republicans
www.theguardian.com


i remember when a certain southern based sky blue laughed at me when I said they would do this
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Biden isn’t supporting this though is he, unusually for him he has promised the much more substantive and praiseworthy act of completely withdrawing from Afghanistan by September. He does that I’ll be surprised but very pleased.

He is wary of just expanding the SC as it sets a precedent of each party rigging it when they get in power. These proposals just like the recent one to turn DC into the 51st state will die in the Senate. Shame that the Democrats didn’t obstruct Barrett’s appointment when they had the chance eh.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2021
  • #3,733
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Biden isn’t supporting this though is he, unusually for him he has promised the much more substantive and praiseworthy act of completely withdrawing from Afghanistan by September. He does that I’ll be surprised but very pleased.

He is wary of just expanding the SC as it sets a precedent of each party rigging it when they get in power. These proposals just like the recent one to turn DC into the 51st state will die in the Senate. Shame that the Democrats didn’t obstruct Barrett’s appointment when they had the chance eh.
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What were the Democrats’ options to obstruct ACB? From a legislative point of view, there was pretty much nothing they could do.

Also surprised you’re praising Biden’s Afghanistan decision - the Trump admin had already agreed a full withdrawal by May!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2021
  • #3,734
SBT said:
What were the Democrats’ options to obstruct ACB? From a legislative point of view, there was pretty much nothing they could do.

Also surprised you’re praising Biden’s Afghanistan decision - the Trump admin had already agreed a full withdrawal by May!
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I will praise it happening when it does. On Barrett there were plenty of options that could have been employed to stall the nomination until after the election:

Memo on Supreme Court Delay Tactics Circulates Among Senate Democrats

A new memo spells out the myriad options available to Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer to delay confirmation of a new Supreme Court justice.
theintercept.com

They didn’t attempt to do so for political reasons going into the election to try and boost turnout. If the position were reversed and they were faced with a 6-3 progressive court, the Republicans would have obstructed it to the maximum extent.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2021
  • #3,735
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I will praise it happening when it does. On Barrett there were plenty of options that could have been employed to stall the nomination until after the election:

Memo on Supreme Court Delay Tactics Circulates Among Senate Democrats

A new memo spells out the myriad options available to Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer to delay confirmation of a new Supreme Court justice.
theintercept.com

They didn’t attempt to do so for political reasons going into the election to try and boost turnout. If the position were reversed and they were faced with a 6-3 progressive court, the Republicans would have obstructed it to the maximum extent.
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Well they did when it was what? 4-4? Under Obama?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2021
  • #3,736
shmmeee said:
Well they did when it was what? 4-4? Under Obama?
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They blocked Merrick Garland’s nomination for 10 months, but did also control the Senate. In this case the Dems still controlled the House and there was a relatively short time until the election.

They just didn’t want to put up a fight and it was quite deliberate.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2021
  • #3,737
I don't think it was about not wanting to put up a fight - Senate Democrats did try some of the delay tactics listed in that memo above, and they didn't work. Other options (Impeachment? Really?) were a nonstarter. I agree with you that they had one eye on the election - I have no idea if swing state voters felt able to vote Democrat in November because they didn't explicitly say they were going to pack the court, but it certainly wouldn't have helped Biden's pitch as a bipartisan alternative.

The Dems also had the problem of setting precedent - the Garland nomination showed that the ONLY thing which matters in getting Supreme Court justices confirmed is control of the Senate. With the strong likelihood of a Biden WH/GOP Senate at that point, ripping up the Senate rulebook would have been an invitation for McConnell to take even more liberties than he would have done anyway had he still been majority leader after January 20. And it still wouldn't have likely made a difference in getting ACB confirmed. Frustrating from a left-wing activist POV, but I can see the rationale behind not going thermonuclear.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2021
  • #3,738
SBT said:
I don't think it was about not wanting to put up a fight - Senate Democrats did try some of the delay tactics listed in that memo above, and they didn't work. Other options (Impeachment? Really?) were a nonstarter. I agree with you that they had one eye on the election - I have no idea if swing state voters felt able to vote Democrat in November because they didn't explicitly say they were going to pack the court, but it certainly wouldn't have helped Biden's pitch as a bipartisan alternative.

The Dems also had the problem of setting precedent - the Garland nomination showed that the ONLY thing which matters in getting Supreme Court justices confirmed is control of the Senate. With the strong likelihood of a Biden WH/GOP Senate at that point, ripping up the Senate rulebook would have been an invitation for McConnell to take even more liberties than he would have done anyway had he still been majority leader after January 20. And it still wouldn't have likely made a difference in getting ACB confirmed. Frustrating from a left-wing activist POV, but I can see the rationale behind not going thermonuclear.
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They now have the bigger problem of setting the precedent of just expanding the SC to stack it in their favour, which if done repeatedly defeats the purpose of the institution. My point here is that McConnell always goes thermonuclear, and so usually always gets what he wants. The GOP must have sent a repeal Obamacare paper to Obama's desk dozens of times, not because they thought he'd ever sign it but to keep the pressure up.

The Dems never go thermonuclear unless it's to blunt the progressive wing of the party. As it is, even if Biden wants to put incremental changes in place it can be easily slapped down by the stacked court.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2021
  • #3,739
SBT said:
What were the Democrats’ options to obstruct ACB? From a legislative point of view, there was pretty much nothing they could do.

Also surprised you’re praising Biden’s Afghanistan decision - the Trump admin had already agreed a full withdrawal by May!
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Rep's blocked Obama's pick. Had it been the other way round you know McConnell would've done everything he could to block the appointment.

Can't see this actually happening. Would just lead to a House of Lords situation in the States to ensure whoever has the presidency controls the court.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 16, 2021
  • #3,740
SBT said:
What were the Democrats’ options to obstruct ACB? From a legislative point of view, there was pretty much nothing they could do.

Also surprised you’re praising Biden’s Afghanistan decision - the Trump admin had already agreed a full withdrawal by May!
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On this point they actually didn't, some troops were still remaining under those plans. Yes I'd like them all gone years ago but a commitment to them all being gone and the reasoning he gave (Bin Laden dead and Al Qaeda neutralised) was pleasing.

Not that he's going to pursue a $15 minimum wage, give people healthcare or legalise marijuana, but it's something.
 

MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Apr 26, 2021
  • #3,741
Ex-Trump adviser mocked for claiming Biden pushing ‘plant-based beer’

Plant-based Beer? Whatever next!
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2021
  • #3,742
MusicDating said:
Ex-Trump adviser mocked for claiming Biden pushing ‘plant-based beer’

Plant-based Beer? Whatever next!
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Plant based rubber?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 19, 2021
  • #3,743
WITCH HUNT!

Trump fumes as New York inquiry now a criminal probe

The New York attorney general's investigation of the Trump Organisation is "no longer purely civil".
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Jun 6, 2021
  • #3,744
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2021
  • #3,745
Skybluefaz said:
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Saw this, just waiting to read that it's been taken as some sort of covert sign by QAnon (and several posters on here), for some more terrorism.
 
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