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shmmeee

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,731
SkyBlueSam01 said:
I'll be astonished if Sakamoto was signed as our first choice RWB
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You don’t rate him?
 

nicksar

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,732
shmmeee said:
You don’t rate him?
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He's a midfield player
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,733
SkyBlueSam01 said:
I'll be astonished if Sakamoto was signed as our first choice RWB
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Think your right no chance.that may be a waste of his talent and or energy. Dont think defending for long periods away the fancied away teams is what we brought him in for.

Maybe at home when teams sit back and hard to break down or if we are chasing the game I'd risk it.
 
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rexo87

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,734
Still convinced he's signed as an AM (as Robins said). Only played wing back the other day out of nessecity

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shmmeee

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,735
nicksar said:
He's a midfield player
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Right wing back is a midfield position.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,736
If it was necessity you’d play Burroughs there and not bring a kid on at AM for Palmer. This is SBT cope like when they wouldn’t accept Sheaf was signing.
 

TomRad85

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,737
nicksar said:
He's a midfield player
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shmmeee said:
Right wing back is a midfield position.
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rexo87

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,738
shmmeee said:
If it was necessity you’d play Burroughs there and not bring a kid on at AM for Palmer. This is SBT cope like when they wouldn’t accept Sheaf was signing.
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No I think Robins wanted him to play with the players most likely to be in 11 and given we were going to have most the ball would end up playing like an AM anyway. If he had started on the bench and come on at AM he would have ended up playing with the kids in the second half

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Matt smith

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,739
shmmeee said:
Right wing back is a midfield position.
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It’s a defensive position
 
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edgy

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,740
shmmeee said:
If it was necessity you’d play Burroughs there and not bring a kid on at AM for Palmer. This is SBT cope like when they wouldn’t accept Sheaf was signing.
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I dont think it's "cope".

It's two factual things. MR's says he's a attacking midfielder and that's where he's been playing at his previous club.
 

TomRad85

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,741
shmmeee said:
Right wing back is a midfield position.
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On this one I both agree and disagree. I think it depends on the player and what the manager really wants from the player.

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rexo87

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,742
You're also ignoring this

Robins 'He is a versatile and creative attacking midfielder'

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Jamesimus

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,743
shmmeee said:
Right wing back is a midfield position.
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I love how this is becoming your thing haha.
 
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nicksar

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,744
shmmeee said:
Right wing back is a midfield position.
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He hasn't been signed to play wing back.He will compete with O'Hare.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,745
rexo87 said:
No I think Robins wanted him to play with the players most likely to be in 11 and given we were going to have most the ball would end up playing like an AM anyway. If he had started on the bench and come on at AM he would have ended up playing with the kids in the second half

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Surely then you play two AMs and no Godden, or if Saka is first choice ahead of Palmer you start him.
 

San Francisco

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,746
Why are people still arguing over this? It's patently obvious he was brought in as an attacking mid. Just because he's "versatile" and played RWB in the past doesn't mean that's what Robins wants from him. Robins is obviously looking at bringing in a proper RWB to play ahead of Burroughs who isn't a first teamer yet.

Can we finally put this one to bed please?
 
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nicksar

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,747
San Francisco said:
Why are people still arguing over this? It's patently obvious he was brought in as an attacking mid. Just because he's "versatile" and played RWB in the past doesn't mean that's what Robins wants from him. Robins is obviously looking at bringing in a proper RWB to play ahead of Burroughs who isn't a first teamer yet.

Can we finally put this one to bed please?
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Your spot on,clearly he has been signed as an A.M.
 
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rexo87

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,748
shmmeee said:
Surely then you play two AMs and no Godden, or if Saka is first choice ahead of Palmer you start him.
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No because then Godden would have to play with the kids. Look at the side it's obvious he wanted the players most likely to be in the starting 11 to play together (other than Howley)

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edgy

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,749
shmmeee said:
Surely then you play two AMs and no Godden, or if Saka is first choice ahead of Palmer you start him.
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It's probably more a case of getting minutes wherever they can fit the main players in.
 

Skybluedownunder

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,750
TomRad85 said:
Bored now. Any of our slightly dubious ITKs got any rumours?

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Right now I’d even just take [mention]Greggs [/mention] lying to me just for a thrill


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mmttww

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,751
Matt smith said:
It’s a defensive position
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I'd have said this in the past, but take a look at some of the Heat Maps (Average Position) people posted.

Bidwell and BNC were almost always the furthest forward after Vik. @schmeee probably has a point.

Sakamoto played as a RWB at his last club. He started at RWB in his first game for us. I think he'll stay there.

If MR sees a WB as a 'midfielder', then his comment re: Tatsu as an 'attacking midfielder' says he'll be RWB.
 
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Tomh111

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,752
Close the thread. He's been signed as a winger even though we don't play wingers, and he played wing back in his first game, and he has played wing back before.
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,753
mmttww said:
I'd have said this in the past, but take a look at some of the Heat Maps (Average Position) people posted.

Bidwell and BNC were almost always the furthest forward after Vik. @schmeee probably has a point.

Sakamoto played as a RWB at his last club. He started at RWB in his first game for us. I think he'll stay there.

If MR sees a WB as a 'midfielder', then his comment re: Tatsu as an 'attacking midfielder' says he'll be RWB.
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He’s never played RWB in his whole career judging off TransferMarkt. Mainly playing LW and RW for his previous club in Belgium and RM in a 4-4-2 in Japan.
 
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SkyBlueSam01

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,754
shmmeee said:
You don’t rate him?
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More that his attributes dont match up with what MR seems to want from a WB...

I can defo see him covering there or dropping in against weaker teams, but just cant see a lightweight (albeit tenacious), skillful left footer being the RWB when we apparently have another 10 signings to make!
 
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napolimp

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,755
shmmeee said:
Right wing back is a midfield position.
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You had to start this up again.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,756
Robins called him an attacking midfielder, there is nothing more to say
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,757
Someone on Twitter reckons we've agreed a fee with Burnley for Bobby Thomas

Not sure on it but quotes a Sky reporter who has no record of it on his Twitter
 
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SleepyGinger

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,758
We’ll definitely sign an out and out RWB. Be nice to have Sakamoto as an option there for when teams are sitting deep against us and we have all of the ball though.
 
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Balli001

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,759
fernandopartridge said:
Someone on Twitter reckons we've agreed a fee with Burnley for Bobby Thomas

Not sure on it but quotes a Sky reporter who has no record of it on his Twitter
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It's on skysports transfer cenrre
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,760
SeaSeeEffCee said:
He’s never played RWB in his whole career judging off TransferMarkt. Mainly playing LW and RW for his previous club in Belgium and RM in a 4-4-2 in Japan.
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He played RM and LM for his previous club in Belgium, which is RWB and LWB.

I am fairly sure he has been signed as an AM (who can fill in at wing back if needed), but he has definitely played wing back previously.
 
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Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Jul 20, 2023
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Nuskyblue

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,762
Matt smith said:
It’s a defensive position
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It's both a hybrid position really as it's both attacking and defensive. There is or should be less requirement to defend due to the three CBs on the field, the LCB/RCB should be able to cover the gaps left by a wing back pushing on.
 
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Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,763
22 years old, tall, plenty of league experience, even managed to score 3 goals for Barnsley last term. Fits the bill and good value at £2 million
 

slowpoke

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,764
shmmeee said:
Right wing back is a midfield position.
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Not if you’re defending it ain’t.
 

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #2,765
shmmeee said:
If it was necessity you’d play Burroughs there and not bring a kid on at AM for Palmer. This is SBT cope like when they wouldn’t accept Sheaf was signing.
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I know you love this theory he will be our starting wing back, and you could be right. From being at the game on Tuesday, I would be worried for two reasons if he was our starting RWB. 1) it would in some ways put a shackle on what looks to be a very exciting attacking player 2) he is very, very slight. Whilst he did fine against FGR, he didn't have a lot to do. I don't doubt his workrate and tenacity, but I think against Championship clubs it could prove to be a big concern. I will add a third that he likes to cut in on his left a lot, which will leave a gaping hole if he then goes on to lose the ball.

This is obviously with the caveat of it was about 60 minutes, and things change and progress. I think he could be an option there for chasing a game but I am not sure how comfortable I would be with him starting Championship games in that position for the season.
 
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