San Francisco
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It's like the attitude some have towards Wilson. They still regard him as a League One keeper at best.
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It's like the attitude some have towards Wilson. They still regard him as a League One keeper at best.
Martin180
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We've played 2 of the best teams in the division so far and in both Eccles was very close to man of the match .
For me the new midfield signing would replace Palmer on current form as he leaves us very exposed by not tracking back as much as he should
Terry_dactyl
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Not sure about your comments about Palmer but I think you’re spot on about Eccles.
Martin180
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Wasn't a criticism of his form ,more of his positional play . He's often the furthest player forward and when we lose possession it leaves a huge gap between attack and midfield at times.
hinckley cov
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There’s a lot of squad players needed, as playing the high press requires a lot of energy and a lot more substitutions than past seasons.
NorthernWisdom
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And as for Allen...
Watch him be slaughtered if it takes him time to get up to speed whenever he comes back. Watch him be slaughtered if he gets up to speed!
skybluecam
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Yes, but he wasn't first choice in any position was he? He got starts when the likes of Palmer, Hamer, Sheaf, BNC, Dabo etc were injured/out. So he was a squad player, filling in when needed.
People seem to be forgetting it took injuries to both Palmer and O'Hare for him to get a spot in that midfield.
skybluecam
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Now you've just devolved into insulting me.
The bottom line is Eccles simply doesn't have the technical abilities - range of passing, vision, close control that Gus used to completely orchestrate our play in possession last season. We will be a worse team overall with him playing in that position.
Terry_dactyl
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We will be worse in midfield due to Hamer’s absence…which is not same as Eccles not being good enough.
Regardless of how he got in the team, he was integral part of the side. He is also getting better and better.
higgs
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Gus was a 15 million player we haven't had too many of them down through the years
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skybluecam
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He was a ~1.5m player when we bought him. Which is what we must do again, although this time we could spend 5-10m.
We have to do what we did with the Vik money. Go out and spend decently on a replacement or two.
Nuskyblue
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Hamer definitely needs to be replaced, doesn't mean that Eccles is a bad player at all, he's just not Hamer... I happen to think Eccles has it in him to play as an 8 he has the attributes. However any CM we bring in would have to be an improvement on what we have which would mean someone becoming second fiddle which probably would be Eccles you would have to think.
skybluecam
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Exactly!
I've never said that Eccles is a bad player, just that we need to replace Hamer and that will naturally lead to Eccles dropping back to being a bench/squad player for the most part.
Apparently that's sacrilege round here...
Oh shut up you clueless fuck
covcity4life
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Your overreacting. He isn't saying anything bad.
NortonSkyBlue
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I suspect that Eccles is first choice for Robins atm. Deservedly so.
Martin180
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He isn't saying a lot of good either ?
He insists Eccles isn't a first team player despite his form last season and his brilliant start to this one as well .
No one has suggested Eccles is Gus or can replace Gus but hes obsessed with that line of reasoning
I'm 51 and can happily debate with other fans of this club and others but fans who've already made their minds up about players bore me . You say overreacting I say not interested in wasting time that that type of "fan"
No one in their right mind would argue we don't need to replace Hamer and that Eccles isn't as good as Hamer. Hamer is the best player we have had outside the Premier League. But that doesn't mean Eccles isn't good enough or a talented Championship player. And it doesn't necessarily mean he will drop out of the side.
No one in their right mind would argue we don't need to replace Hamer and that Eccles isn't as good as Hamer. Hamer is the best player we have had outside the Premier League. But that doesn't mean Eccles isn't good enough or a talented Championship player. And it doesn't necessarily mean he will drop out of the side.
Brighton Sky Blue
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No one in their right mind would argue we don't need to replace Hamer and that Eccles isn't as good as Hamer. Hamer is the best player we have had outside the Premier League. But that doesn't mean Eccles isn't good enough or a talented Championship player. And it doesn't necessarily mean he will drop out of the side.
covcity4life
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But your being just as bad if anyone isn't as positive as you about a player.
He is saying we need a hamer replacement and that if we get one it will probably be eccles who drops out of the first 11
That's probably true isn't it? If your honest?
Eccles is a good player and playing superb this season but doesn't mean he has same skillset as Gus. And sheaf prob would get in first 11 ahead of him still I imagine.
He might be being too down on Eccles perhaps but I think he acknowledges that he is a good player . I think he is a squad player myself and too early to say he's a bonafide starter.
covcity4life
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One of them said Palmer drops lol. No more attacking mid.
Martin180
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Come on he's saying he isn't technical enough despite playing two roles more than adequately among others slights on his ability
I agree he isn't Gus or ever likely will be but he's a damn fine championship midfielder
Brighton Sky Blue
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Still some who haven't learned why you need a squad in this division as opposed to a strong starting XI
Martin180
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I said I would replace Palmer with the new midfielder if he was an attacking midfielder
Sorry I forgot the lol
covcity4life
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By tehcnical he probably means the though balls and long balls. Something we haven't seen form Eccles. He might be capable of it but we ain't seen it yet.
covcity4life
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Cos you "hate" Palmer but having a go at those that "hate" Eccles.I said I would replace Palmer with the new midfielder if he was an attacking midfielder
Sorry I forgot the lol
Great "fan"?
shmmeee
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Sure sure. So he’s a squad player. Or who are you rotating him with? Sheaf? Hamers replacement? Or just filling in like he has been?
Martin180
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Show me one post where I've hated on Palmer ?
Jeez there are some helmets on here today
covcity4life
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read the post again I've added ironic quote marks.
You are getting on the posters back as if he hates Eccles when he doesn't. I am just saying you do the same to Palmer.(but you don't hate him right)
But you say you don't want to converse with a fan like that?
On current form van Ewijk for starters.
Brighton Sky Blue
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I just mean he’s a squad player who can provide cover for Sheaf or at RWB.
