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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,121
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Do you honestly believe Robins would tell Andy Turner of all people who his targets are?
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It’s hardly as if there is anything even close to concrete linking us to him. The name has only come up because people googled out of contract centre backs in the Eredivise.
 

mr_monkey

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,122
SeaSeeEffCee said:
It’s hardly as if there is anything even close to concrete linking us to him. The name has only come up because people googled out of contract centre backs in the Eredivise.
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Sorry Andy
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,123
SeaSeeEffCee said:
It’s hardly as if there is anything even close to concrete linking us to him. The name has only come up because people googled out of contract centre backs in the Eredivise.
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That's not really the point though is it.

Robins is never going to reveal who his targets are to a second rate local journalist.
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,124
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
That's not really the point though is it.

Robins is never going to reveal who his targets are to a second rate local journalist.
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Journalists don’t tend to get their information from ringing up the manager and asking, unless you think that Pep was on the phone 24/7 a couple of weeks ago letting journalists know they’d signed Erling Haaland. As irrelevant as Turner has been for a while now he’s still been doing the job for a long time and I’d imagine he’d at least have some contacts within the club, especially as we have two posters on here who seem to have a direct line to whatever information they want. Wouldn’t imagine it’s particularly hard for a local journalist to find out what club Robins went to watch when he was over in the Netherlands etc. even without having Robins number on speed dial.
 
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Samo

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,125
Some of you would argue over the colour of shite!
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,126
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Journalists don’t tend to get their information from ringing up the manager and asking, unless you think that Pep was on the phone 24/7 a couple of weeks ago letting journalists know they’d signed Erling Haaland. As irrelevant as Turner has been for a while now he’s still been doing the job for a long time and I’d imagine he’d at least have some contacts within the club, especially as we have two posters on here who seem to have a direct line to whatever information they want. Wouldn’t imagine it’s particularly hard for a local journalist to find out what club Robins went to watch when he was over in the Netherlands etc. even without having Robins number on speed dial.
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Andy Turner isn't overly popular at the club. If he started to nose around he'd likely not get anywhere and he doesn't have the network within the industry to receive info/go hunting for potential targets either.

You'll probably notice that the ITK posters don't often give out names and if they do, the player/s in question has likely already been signed. It just hasn't been officially announced yet.
 
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mr_monkey

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,127
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Journalists don’t tend to get their information from ringing up the manager and asking, unless you think that Pep was on the phone 24/7 a couple of weeks ago letting journalists know they’d signed Erling Haaland. As irrelevant as Turner has been for a while now he’s still been doing the job for a long time and I’d imagine he’d at least have some contacts within the club, especially as we have two posters on here who seem to have a direct line to whatever information they want. Wouldn’t imagine it’s particularly hard for a local journalist to find out what club Robins went to watch when he was over in the Netherlands etc. even without having Robins number on speed dial.
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Maybe for a half decent one, which Andy turner certainly isn't
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,128
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Andy Turner isn't overly popular at the club. If he started to nose around he'd likely not get anywhere and he doesn't have the network within the industry to receive info/go hunting for potential targets either.

You'll probably notice that the ITK posters don't often give out names and if they do, the player/s in question has likely already been signed. It just hasn't been officially announced yet.
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to be honest, I don’t really care about defending Andy Turner, mainly because I agree that he’s pretty shit at his job, but I disagree that he’d have a particularly hard time finding out stuff like that. But anyway, the point is there has been nothing actually linking us to this lad, which of course doesn’t mean he’s definitely not signing or anything, but it’s just a bit odd that he’s getting brought up so much when it’s purely based off fan speculation.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,129
SeaSeeEffCee said:
to be honest, I don’t really care about defending Andy Turner, mainly because I agree that he’s pretty shit at his job, but I disagree that he’d have a particularly hard time finding out stuff like that. But anyway, the point is there has been nothing actually linking us to this lad, which of course doesn’t mean he’s definitely not signing or anything, but it’s just a bit odd that he’s getting brought up so much when it’s purely based off fan speculation.
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Why do you disagree?

It's not a case that journalists ring up agencies or football clubs they don't know in order to prize information out of them. That's a pretty massive misconception from fans.

Even national writers such as Alan Nixon have a difficult time and they have a network of contacts, which they've spent decades building, who they can call upon for speculative or unannounced transfer news. And even then they'll only be told what such parties want them to know.

So what chance does Andy Turner have when anyone close to the club would've been told to under no circumstances talk to the press regarding such matters and he quite clearly has zero contacts within the wider industry?
 
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procdoc

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,130
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Why do you disagree?

It's not a case that journalists ring up agencies or football clubs they don't know in order to prize information out of them. That's a pretty massive misconception from fans.

Even national writers such as Alan Nixon have a difficult time and they have a network of contacts, which they've spent decades building, who they can call upon for speculative or unannounced transfer news. And even then they'll only be told what such parties want them to know.

So what chance does Andy Turner have when anyone close to the club would've been told to under no circumstances talk to the press regarding such matters and he quite clearly has zero contacts within the wider industry?
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Christ, you’d argue with your own shadow
 
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mark82

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,131
SlowerThanPlatt said:
They got hammered in the relegation play offs 6-1 which he was on the bench for
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To be fair, that was due to injury. He's played most games this season.
 

SeaSeeEffCee

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,132
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Why do you disagree?

It's not a case that journalists ring up agencies or football clubs they don't know in order to prize information out of them. That's a pretty massive misconception from fans.

Even national writers such as Alan Nixon have a difficult time and they have a network of contacts, which they've spent decades building, who they can call upon for speculative or unannounced transfer news. And even then they'll only be told what such parties want them to know.

So what chance does Andy Turner have when anyone close to the club would've been told to under no circumstances talk to the press regarding such matters and he quite clearly has zero contacts within the wider industry?
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I think you’re really over-estimating this supposed hatred for Andy Turner at the club. He’s been covering games for 15+ years now, it’s pretty naive to suggest that he has zero connections to anyone who works for/has worked for the club in that time. We’re a Championship football club, not Fort Knox, if a couple of posters on a forum are able to get some insider information it’s hardly a ridiculous suggestion that a local journalist might also know a couple of people who know a few things. Mark Robins isn’t the only person in the world who knows the names of some players we might be looking at. I worked in the football industry for a few years, with pretty close ties to a lower league club and I’d always hear information about who they were looking at, it’s really not that secretive.
 

shmmeee

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,133
The other thing Turner has is ready access to his opposite number at every other club in the country.

This place really does forget itself sometimes when overdoing memes into reality. Of course the local journo covering the club for years knows people around the club. You can admit that obvious fact without having to join the Andy Turner fan club FFS
 
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rexo87

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,134
shmmeee said:
The other thing Turner has is ready access to his opposite number at every other club in the country.

This place really does forget itself sometimes when overdoing memes into reality. Of course the local journo covering the club for years knows people around the club. You can admit that obvious fact without having to join the Andy Turner fan club FFS
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He also does have a fairly good relationship with Robins. Anyone who watches the full pre match interviews on ifollow will realise that

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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,135
shmmeee said:
The other thing Turner has is ready access to his opposite number at every other club in the country.

This place really does forget itself sometimes when overdoing memes into reality. Of course the local journo covering the club for years knows people around the club. You can admit that obvious fact without having to join the Andy Turner fan club FFS
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The notion that any club employee would willingly reveal information to a journalist is frankly idiotic.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,136
SeaSeeEffCee said:
I think you’re really over-estimating this supposed hatred for Andy Turner at the club. He’s been covering games for 15+ years now, it’s pretty naive to suggest that he has zero connections to anyone who works for/has worked for the club in that time. We’re a Championship football club, not Fort Knox, if a couple of posters on a forum are able to get some insider information it’s hardly a ridiculous suggestion that a local journalist might also know a couple of people who know a few things. Mark Robins isn’t the only person in the world who knows the names of some players we might be looking at. I worked in the football industry for a few years, with pretty close ties to a lower league club and I’d always hear information about who they were looking at, it’s really not that secretive.
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I'm not saying he's hated. You've just purposely misinterpreted what I said. He's not liked by a fair few due to his position on things in the past along with a couple of stories that he put out.

The information given to the ITKs within the forum quite obviously comes from players. The club would outright prohibit any employee to discuss matters regarding recruitment with the press unless they were told otherwise. That isn't even up for debate.

I work in the industry still, and of course I hear things. But telling me, a trusted supplier, and directly telling a journalist are two very different things.
 
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shmmeee

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,137
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
The notion that any club employee would willingly reveal information to a journalist is frankly idiotic.
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Yes, leaks are not a thing in any industry. No media ever gets information before a company wishes it to.

Come on man, have you met humans?
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,138
shmmeee said:
Yes, leaks are not a thing in any industry. No media ever gets information before a company wishes it to.

Come on man, have you met humans?
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What are you on about?

The club have a decent track record in keeping transfers under wraps over the past few years.

The only ones to memory that have been released beforehand are from external sources outside of the local media - foreign media/national media. Which is out of their control.

Surely points to no one leaking info to the local press no?

It's incredible this is even a debate.
 
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aloisijohnnyaloisi

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,139
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
and he doesn't have the network within the industry
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KenilworthSkyBlue said:
quite clearly has zero contacts within the wider industry?
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Just wondering, how do you know about his network - or lack of?
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,140
aloisijohnnyaloisi said:
Just wondering, how do you know about his network - or lack of?
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I mean it's pretty obvious. The reporting on the CT is by large below par at best and to memory no concrete rumours have ever really come from Andy Turner directly in years.

He simply scours the internet in search of rumours.

Bristol Rovers reported to be keen on Coventry City's Tyler Walker

A case in point. Recycled news from another source.
 
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aloisijohnnyaloisi

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,141
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
I mean it's pretty obvious. The reporting on the CT is by large below par at best and to memory no concrete rumours have ever really come from Andy Turner directly in years.

He simply scours the internet in search of rumours.

Bristol Rovers reported to be keen on Coventry City's Tyler Walker

A case in point. Recycled news from another source.
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Yep, that's fair. For a moment I thought you had the inside scoop on his inside scooping.
 

Blind-Faith

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,142
Based purely on my FM experience and currently in my current Cov team , Jerome Opoku , left footed CB released by Fulham
 
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WestEndAgro

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,143
Samo said:
Some of you would argue over the colour of shite!
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Well I've managed several that couldn't be described as brown
 
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junglej13

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,144
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
I mean it's pretty obvious. The reporting on the CT is by large below par at best and to memory no concrete rumours have ever really come from Andy Turner directly in years.

He simply scours the internet in search of rumours.

Bristol Rovers reported to be keen on Coventry City's Tyler Walker

A case in point. Recycled news from another source.
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In the close season as a sport journalist I'm sure it's not easy to fill a local paper with Coventry City stories when realistically nothing is happening and everyone is on holiday. I'm pretty sure there are no 'concrete rumours' as Andy won't report any names until they are pretty much done. Given Andy has worked with Robins for about five years (over Robins two spells) I would say he has a pretty decent relationship with him.
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,145
Blind-Faith said:
Based purely on my FM experience and currently in my current Cov team , Jerome Opoku , left footed CB released by Fulham
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I would take him didnt he have a good season in League 1 2 years ago
 

better days

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,146
Andy Turner is a decent bloke who has good relationships with plenty of people at the club
There was a period when the CET was persona non grata because they were very critical of the owners
But that is well in the past since the penny dropped and Robins was given the backing he asked for
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,147
better days said:
Andy Turner is a decent bloke who has good relationships with plenty of people at the club
There was a period when the CET was persona non grata because they were very critical of the owners
But that is well in the past since the penny dropped and Robins was given the backing he asked for
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Given the CT needs the club far more than the club needs the CT I suspect it's far more likely that they were brought back into the fold off the back of several sincere apologies and a promise of neutrality when reporting on Wasps/CCFC related matters.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,148
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Given the CT needs the club far more than the club needs the CT I suspect it's far more likely that they were brought back into the fold off the back of several sincere apologies and a promise of neutrality when reporting on Wasps/CCFC related matters.
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Possibly a bit before his time!
 
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steve101

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,149
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Isn’t one of them a Spanish international? If he’s better than him not sure what he’s been doing at Coventry City all season!
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If any of ours played like the Leeds centre backs yesterday, they would have been written off forever!
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,150
steve101 said:
If any of ours played like the Leeds centre backs yesterday, they would have been written off forever!
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Dont they also have a German international called Koch, funny because its pronounced cock
 

better days

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,151
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Given the CT needs the club far more than the club needs the CT I suspect it's far more likely that they were brought back into the fold off the back of several sincere apologies and a promise of neutrality when reporting on Wasps/CCFC related matters.
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It was more to do with the ludicrous repeated court action(s)
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,152
To emphasise the disadvantage we face against the 'parachute payment' supported clubs I see Fulham have released on frees Jean Michael Seri who they signed for £25m, & Alfie Mawson who they signed for £20m. Imagine being able to spend £20m+ on bit part players filling up your squad!
 
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ccfcrob

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  • May 23, 2022
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procdoc said:
Christ, you’d argue with your own shadow
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To be fair it was following him
 
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Cranfield Sky Blue

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  • May 23, 2022
  • #1,154
WestEndAgro said:
Well I've managed several that couldn't be described as brown
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I’m on holiday in Crete and fuck me the one I just left for the missus to clean up was definitely not brown…. What the fuck have I been eating!??

Tyler Walker to Bristol Rovers… doubt it very much!

PS - No inside knowledge there

PUSB
 

slowpoke

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  • May 23, 2022
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PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
Dont they also have a German international called Koch, funny because its pronounced cock
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I remember when they used to have a player called Kuntz.
 
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