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mark82

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  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,676
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Panzo will probably be another in a long line that will just live off the success of their youth career.

The fact he's already played at three clubs on a permanent basis by the age of 21 isn't a particularly great sign of his actual ability.
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21 is quite young for a defender to be fair.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,677
mark82 said:
21 is quite young for a defender to be fair.
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It's hardly a great sign though is it. If he was that talented neither Monaco nor Dijon would've sold.

He's 22 in November and stuck at yet another club he seemingly can't get a game for. At that age you really should be staking a claim or at the very least impressing whilst out on loan.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,678
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Panzo will probably be another in a long line that will just live off the success of their youth career.

The fact he's already played at three clubs on a permanent basis by the age of 21 isn't a particularly great sign of his actual ability.
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Ironically he probably would have been better of staying at Chelsea, a couple of loan moves and found his level in England like Clarke-Salter
 
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procdoc

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,679
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
It's hardly a great sign though is it. If he was that talented neither Monaco nor Dijon would've sold.

He's 22 in November and stuck at yet another club he seemingly can't get a game for. At that age you really should be staking a claim or at the very least impressing whilst out on loan.
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If he wasn’t talented a club like Monaco wouldn’t have bought him.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,680
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Ironically he probably would have been better of staying at Chelsea, a couple of loan moves and found his level in England like Clarke-Salter
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Probably. It's understandable what he was trying to do but it's clearly had the opposite effect.
 
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procdoc

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  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,681
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Probably. It's understandable what he was trying to do but it's clearly had the opposite effect.
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I admire a player that takes a gamble and moves to another country, regardless of how it works out in the end
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,682
procdoc said:
If he wasn’t talented a club like Monaco wouldn’t have bought him.
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So the fact they sold him just two years later is completely irrelevant is it?

He clearly had a great deal of potential in his teens but there's only so long he can ride the wave of being considered a prodigy.
 
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wingy

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  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,683
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
So the fact they sold him just two years later is completely irrelevant is it?

He clearly had a great deal of potential in his teens but there's only so long he can ride the wave of being considered a prodigy.
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Not certain but I think there was a change in the heirarchy that brought him in.
 

ceetee

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,684
A talented player who hasn't fulfilled his promise ......... surely we wouldn't sign such a player..............
 
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Tea & Busquets

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  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,685
wouldn’t be mad at a Panzo loan.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,686
wingy said:
Not certain but I think there was a change in the heirarchy that brought him in.
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Confused as to why that would mean they’d have to sell him?
 
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Deity

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  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,687
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Confused as to why that would mean they’d have to sell him?
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I think we all know what he means. When managers or DOF’s change they have their own ideas of what type of system or players they want. That can lead to good players leaving. I’m not suggesting Panzo is an example of that but the broader point is valid.

Warnock didn’t fancy Spence as a player. He’s not done too bad at Forest !
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,688
Deity said:
I think we all know what he means. When managers or DOF’s change they have their own ideas of what type of system or players they want. That can lead to good players leaving. I’m not suggesting Panzo is an example of that but the broader point is valid.

Warnock didn’t fancy Spence as a player. He’s not done too bad at Forest !
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Well he wasn’t playing before that either so it’s more likely they thought he wasn’t good enough
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,689
Walker is with them today so I think that just leaves Kane
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,690
Deity said:
I think we all know what he means. When managers or DOF’s change they have their own ideas of what type of system or players they want. That can lead to good players leaving. I’m not suggesting Panzo is an example of that but the broader point is valid.

Warnock didn’t fancy Spence as a player. He’s not done too bad at Forest !
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He's been sold by two separate clubs though within two years of joining. I find it very difficult to believe both were as a result of him not fitting the into the system.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,691
Jed Wallace going to WBA..joins Swift and their other plethora of midfielders
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,692
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Jed Wallace going to WBA..joins Swift and their other plethora of midfielders
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Even though I see Bruce as a drawback as their manager I can see them challenging next season unfortunately.
 
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Skybluebeliever

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  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,693
SleepyGinger said:
SBB said he wouldn’t be surprised by it but not sure what to read into that
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He is thought of very highly by the club and he likes the club , his partner lives in the area so there are lots of positives for him to return if Norwich were to loan him again but as usual money talks and QPR paid a high percentage of his salary last season
 
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procdoc

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  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,694
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
So the fact they sold him just two years later is completely irrelevant is it?

He clearly had a great deal of potential in his teens but there's only so long he can ride the wave of being considered a prodigy.
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I didn’t say that. He’s obviously got ability else he wouldn’t have been signed in the first place. Why do you want to argue with everyone constantly lol
 

Skyblue_CP

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,695
Wonder if there are any more incomings in the pipeline for the end of this week. Be good to get the majority of the lads together for most of preseason, we haven’t really been heavily linked with anyone else bar Palmer yet. (Which obviously came to fruition)
 
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Winny the Bish

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,696
Another incredible article from Andy Turner - Buchanan, Cochrane, McCallum - Coventry City transfer rumours rated and slated

Not a single rumour or transfer target has been reported originally by him. He says no to 95% of the names linked with City and fails to provide any of his own. The 5% he doesn't shoot down have come from journos at Cov Live's sister sites. We're getting more City transfer news from Derbyshire Live and Alan Nixon than our own fucking club reporter.

It's pathetic. A real editor would've asked him why he's got no sources and no exclusives by now.
 
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long way home

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  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,697
I dont think MR or his staff give much away on what's happening behind closed doors. I would imagine lots going on and loads of managers, agents and players will have be in conversation on a daily basis. Most will never come to light of day, but MR definitely seems to been part of a change within the club on how they do business. I prefer it this way, let everyone else talk have your targets and if they come off great if they dont nobody is none the wiser. This way the club doesnt have to confirm or deny anything.

Signings will happen, thats the only thing we can be sure on and if i was a betting man id say progrress and improvement will be made to the squad ready for the new season under MR instruction. Who those are i would guess 2 more perms both defensive left sided. And then 1 loan in an attacking position.

Lastly just a thought, could MR be changing the formation to a flat back 4, and go with 2 DM, 2 ACM and 2 up top. If so the type of player he is looking at will be different to what we think. Palmer and O hare i can see behind the top 2, and can see Sheaf and another sitting in front of a back 4.
 
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SleepyGinger

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,698
Skybluebeliever said:
He is thought of very highly by the club and he likes the club , his partner lives in the area so there are lots of positives for him to return if Norwich were to loan him again but as usual money talks and QPR paid a high percentage of his salary last season
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Was Maatsen cheaper then?
 

Tea & Busquets

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,699
one of these days i would love to fabricate a fake transfer rumour just to get a kick out of turner “rating and slating” them.
 
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hamil99

Facebook User
  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,700
Looking at the squad if we signed a LWB and a LCB, I'd be happy.

If Waggy and Walker both go I'd probably hope for another attacker. If one went I'd be happy with Tavares taking their place with Harrison Nee as the back up, like Tavares was last season. We have a lot of young talented footballers at this club, the Burroughs brothers, Howley, Nee, and Eccles.

We can not afford top attackers with our budget, they cost to much, so integration of our promising youth forwards is a must.
 
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Briles

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,701
skyblue93 said:
Another incredible article from Andy Turner - Buchanan, Cochrane, McCallum - Coventry City transfer rumours rated and slated

Not a single rumour or transfer target has been reported originally by him. He says no to 95% of the names linked with City and fails to provide any of his own. The 5% he doesn't shoot down have come from journos at Cov Live's sister sites. We're getting more City transfer news from Derbyshire Live and Alan Nixon than our own fucking club reporter.

It's pathetic. A real editor would've asked him why he's got no sources and no exclusives by now.
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"Coventry live understands"

That's an oxymoron right there.
 
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TwistAndShoutCCFC1987

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  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,702
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Howcome, didn’t get much of a game at Swansea last season?
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True - maybe we’d have a chance. Don’t think we’d go in for him though
 

SleepyGinger

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,703
hamil99 said:
Looking at the squad if we signed a LWB and a LCB, I'd be happy.

If Waggy and Walker both go I'd probably hope for another attacker. If one went I'd be happy with Tavares taking their place with Harrison Nee as the back up, like Tavares was last season. We have a lot of young talented footballers at this club, the Burroughs brothers, Howley, Nee, and Eccles.

We can not afford top attackers with our budget, they cost to much, so integration of our promising youth forwards is a must.
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I’d be very surprised if we don’t make a big sale this window
 
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Skybluebeliever

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  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,704
SleepyGinger said:
Was Maatsen cheaper then?
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Yes I think he was , I think Norwich were asking a higher percentage of salary to be paid based on the level and the amount of games played in championship , the wages would have increased with Norwich getting promoted . Maatsen I don’t think chelsea were after that higher a percentage as they wanted him to get experience .in championship
 
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Samo

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  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,705
Tea & Busquets said:
one of these days i would love to fabricate a fake transfer rumour just to get a kick out of turner “rating and slating” them.
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You might as well, everybody else has.
 
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Samo

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  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,706
hamil99 said:
Looking at the squad if we signed a LWB and a LCB, I'd be happy.

If Waggy and Walker both go I'd probably hope for another attacker. If one went I'd be happy with Tavares taking their place with Harrison Nee as the back up, like Tavares was last season. We have a lot of young talented footballers at this club, the Burroughs brothers, Howley, Nee, and Eccles.

We can not afford top attackers with our budget, they cost to much, so integration of our promising youth forwards is a must.
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For me, that still leaves us light in midfield.
 
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Skybluebeliever

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  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,707
Skyblue_CP said:
Wonder if there are any more incomings in the pipeline for the end of this week. Be good to get the majority of the lads together for most of preseason, we haven’t really been heavily linked with anyone else bar Palmer yet. (Which obviously came to fruition)
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I think they might go back to the original CB target now JCS has gone elsewhere and this could happen quickly as the parent club are keen for it to be sorted
 
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junglej13

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  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,708
Skybluebeliever said:
I think they might go back to the original CB target now JCS has gone elsewhere and this could happen quickly as the parent club are keen for it to be sorted
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Was this the loan from a top Premier League side you mentioned?
 
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hamil99

Facebook User
  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,709
SleepyGinger said:
I’d be very surprised if we don’t make a big sale this window
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I have to reluctantly agree. Im hoping it won't happen, but in all likelihood it will.

If Gyro left, that would be the worst as finding another gem is always a tough ask. And as I've said before, strikers are always a premium.

With Eccles and Howley coming through I'd still want a replacement if Hamer left, but Id be happy with an older player to guide them

The same for O'Hare really with Bapaga and Dinanga coming through.
 
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WGABSOOS

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  • Jun 22, 2022
  • #3,710
junglej13 said:
Was this the loan from a top Premier League side you mentioned?
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Sepp van den berg possibly. Liverpool mentioned loaning him again
 
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