DazzleTommyDazzle
Well-Known Member
If it's so insignificant, why would we break the law by not filing?
If it hasn't already been stated, I think something important needs to be mentioned here which is that the filing of the club's accounts isn't of significance in the grand scheme of things. The club is owned by a holding company, which is in turn owned by another holding company-and so the only one that actually reveals anything useful is that of the ultimate holding company.
Couldn't agree more. We are where we are not because of SISU but because of people like Richardson and McGinnity. Ably assisted by Robinson, Hover and Elliot. They should all be ashamed.
That's idiotic.
Even if they were "pro Sisu" are you saying people cannot or should not change their mind? Explain.
In any case people wanted to believe that Sisu had saved the club, indeed this is what we were told.
You'd have to be pretty warped to think that Sky Blue fans wouldn't be happy with those who were being portrayed as having "saved" the club.
You make no sense - Sick Boy - no sense whatsoever.:jerkit::jerkit::jerkit:
Couldn't agree more. We are where we are not because of SISU but because of people like Richardson and McGinnity. Ably assisted by Robinson, Hover and Elliot. They should all be ashamed.
So true - just as all our current problems are not down to the government, but to those damn Whig administrations in the nineteenth century.
I can't understand why some people can't grasp this
so basically we can expect this at the end of each season........but we arent allowed to question SISU according to some people on here because it makes you anti-city apparently.
If it's so insignificant, why would we break the law by not filing?
It's not idiotic at all, the things that we warned about at the time, how Hedge Funds operate, Joy Seppalla's court case, Ranson and Sisu being told to feck off by everybody else they tried to get, were lauded as great things.
"Hedge Funds know how to make money, success for us is inevitable", "Joy is a real hard-case, she won't take any crap off any other clubs", "Ranson is a "football" man and "successfull, hardheaded businessman", and the best, which was often said, "how stupid were Southampton to turn down Ranson and Sisu?" Lucky us.
The "few" facts that are known about Sisu, Seppalla et al, are the same "few" facts that we've always known, been no change in the behaviour of hedge-funds or Seppalla since the take-over, many just chose to ignore it, but suddenly feel all betrayed because they didn't do, what seems to have become one of the more popular memes on here, "due dilligence".
From the beginning mistrusted the whole Sisu and Ranson "project", never thought that they had the money required to take us where we needed to go, or the know-how from board-level down to make us a success.
Always felt that i was fair-minded about it though.
The anti-Sisu prevalent on this board in particular now though is anything but considered, ACL= Good, Sisu=Bad, not as simple as that, and the lack of real cogent arguments merely diminishes any cause.
Because it still exists as a company on paper so of course is legally obliged to file them. I meant that in real terms, it's the accounts of the ultimate holding company tell the real financial picture.
Who would you expect to replace them?
No one in their right mind would agree to what ACL are demanding, and you can be sure that any potential investor would seek a similar deal like SISU are currently doing. As it has been said many times, i am sure some would suddenly change their viewpoint.
It's not idiotic at all, the things that we warned about at the time, how Hedge Funds operate, Joy Seppalla's court case, Ranson and Sisu being told to fuck off by everybody else they tried to get, were lauded as great things.
"Hedge Funds know how to make money, success for us is inevitable", "Joy is a real hard-case, she won't take any crap off any other clubs", "Ranson is a "football" man and "successfull, hardheaded businessman", and the best, which was often said, "how stupid were Southampton to turn down Ranson and Sisu?" Lucky us.
The "few" facts that are known about Sisu, Seppalla et al, are the same "few" facts that we've always known, been no change in the behaviour of hedge-funds or Seppalla since the take-over, many just chose to ignore it, but suddenly feel all betrayed because they didn't do, what seems to have become one of the more popular memes on here, "due dilligence".
From the beginning mistrusted the whole Sisu and Ranson "project", never thought that they had the money required to take us where we needed to go, or the know-how from board-level down to make us a success.
Always felt that i was fair-minded about it though.
The anti-Sisu prevalent on this board in particular now though is anything but considered, ACL= Good, Sisu=Bad, not as simple as that, and the lack of real cogent arguments merely diminishes any cause.
So why not file them?
Bit of a generalisation Lord.
Way back then, I was pleased that we'd been "saved" and hoped that we'd see the benefits of proper business planning and professional management.
Sadly the reality has been something very different.
For me, one of the worst things has been the total mismanagement (in my view) of the "rent row". We (CCFC) were in a poor position because the rent was too high for our declining status, but we were locked into a legally binding contract. In that position (again in my view) you work hard to bring the other party onside, you offer them something in return for what you want - a % shareholding in CCFC for a rent reduction? What you don't do is (seemingly) go out of your way to piss them off, when they hold all the cards that matter. Otherwise, where do you think things might end up......
I bow to your superior ball gazing abilities. Remarkable. Sick Boy was berating fans for being pro sisu and having become anti sisu.
I was simply pointing out that people should be allowed to change their mind.....MOREOVER if the alternatives were SISU or NO CLUB then it is
hardly surprising that some - not you obviously, with your remarkable acumen and star gazing renown - plumped for Sisu.
This is just how the majority of fans are, ordinary folk who believe what they're told......not sophisticated soothsayers like you, clearly.
And while we're on it - oh great one - could you tell me how things are going to pan out in the next three months? Cheers
Beware the ides of March:jerkit::jerkit::jerkit::jerkit:
Fisher is going to be on Shane O'Connors radio show after 8am
Too right, come on Shane use your noggin!!I almost never bother to listen to these things, none of the interviewers ever actually manage to ask the questions properly or encourage another answer after a spin responce. How about when he blames ACL they ask was it their fault for the last 2 years as well? how about asking why they cant budget useing the best offer they have been given and release the accounts based on that? if they manage a better deal they will simply have more to spend.
When they arrived, they promised a lot.
Since then, most intelligent people have realised that they cannot be trusted, they don't do what it says on the tin.
So why aern't you and other encouraging or even demanding that ACL issue a winding up order on the club? They have had 12 months to do it,what's holding them back.If the club don't pay up,you get rid of SISU which is presumbably what you want.
You have just shot down any argument that ACL don't want to help the club. If they didn't why haven't they called in the winding up order in the last 12 months. What excuse are SHITSU lovers going to use to cover this one.
Acl and the Ricoh would fail without Ccfc, thats why.
Acl and the Ricoh would fail without Ccfc, thats why.
Acl and the Ricoh would fail without Ccfc, thats why.
Acl and the Ricoh would fail without Ccfc, thats why.
Why would ACL's auditors sign off their accounts given the current fragility of the primary tenant then?
The auditors must - independently - believe ACL's assertion that they have a viable business without CCFC.
And as I keep asking, given the stance SISU have taken, what then for those of you who have supported their behaviour?
This isn't even close to being true.
Indeed, without the football, the Ricoh could open its doors to many other and more profitable revenue streams.
Is your sole purpose on here now just be the court jester? Are you ever going to post anything remotely sensible.
Still if they did do something different on a Saturday at the Ricoh perhaps you may actually turn up for that.
Is your sole purpose on here now just be the court jester? Are you ever going to post anything remotely sensible.
Still if they did do something different on a Saturday at the Ricoh perhaps you may actually turn up for that.
YOU along with your brother in arms Torchy,and Summerisle need to stop being patronising "Little shits"....."Damn" I've sworn again.:facepalm:
Why are you attacking him? His statement was true.
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