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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 26, 2020
  • #106
fernandopartridge said:
Pressley was made to sell or otherwise lost Clarke, Wilson, Baker, Moussa, Christie. He can hardly be blamed for struggling to replace all of those tbf
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Given the future career of the likes of Daniels and Phillips, he didn't do badly with what he had, either.
 

David O'Day

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  • Oct 26, 2020
  • #107
For that 3-4-3 formation with Vincelot at CB Mowbray will always be a fat nosed c**t
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 26, 2020
  • #108
Brighton Sky Blue said:
His league form went pretty rancid, the cup games were the exception
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His win ratio by the end of this season will be higher than Robins over both tenures - it’s pretty close now
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 26, 2020
  • #109
fernandopartridge said:
Pressley was made to sell or otherwise lost Clarke, Wilson, Baker, Moussa, Christie. He can hardly be blamed for struggling to replace all of those tbf
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Robins only signed 2 of those players as well
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 26, 2020
  • #110
Grendel said:
His win ratio by the end of this season will be higher than Robins over both tenures - it’s pretty close now
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This is getting a bit boring G
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 26, 2020
  • #111
Brighton Sky Blue said:
This is getting a bit boring G
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Dowie I think has the 3rd best ratio in the clubs history
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Oct 26, 2020
  • #112
Grendel said:
Dowie I think has the 3rd best ratio in the clubs history
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7th actually (counting MR twice) and he's about on a par with Sillett.
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 26, 2020
  • #113
Skyblueweeman said:
7th actually (counting MR twice) and he's about on a par with Sillett.
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No that’s wrong regarding Sillett and if you are including Lee Carsley etc than that’s rather silly really
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Oct 26, 2020
  • #114
According to Wikipedia Dowie 0.04% better


List of Coventry City F.C. managers - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 26, 2020
  • #115
Grendel said:
Dowie I think has the 3rd best ratio in the clubs history
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I think his dismissal was a touch harsh but it had certainly turned stale
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 26, 2020
  • #116
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I think his dismissal was a touch harsh but it had certainly turned stale
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In real terms hill robins black and actually nielson were better but of course robins and hill did manage at lower levels where the ratio is a lot higher
 

David O'Day

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  • Oct 26, 2020
  • #117
So Grenners is wrong yet again

Shock horror
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 26, 2020
  • #118
Grendel said:
In real terms hill robins black and actually nielson were better but of course robins and hill did manage at lower levels where the ratio is a lot higher
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I think out of all the sackings only Black was unjustified, Dowie possibly. Can only beat what’s in front of you though
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Oct 26, 2020
  • #119
Grendel said:
No that’s wrong regarding Sillett and if you are including Lee Carsley etc than that’s rather silly really
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% wins as manager of CCFC:

Mark Robins (1st time) - 51.52%
Harry Storer - 47.18%
Eric Black - 45.45%
Mark Robins (this time) - 44.64%
Jimmy Hill - 44.33%
Roland Nillson - 44.19%
Iain Dowie - 40.82%
John Sillett - 40.78%

So, like I said, Dowie is 7th in the CCFC list of managers by win % and is almost on a par with Sillett.

You go ahead though and put some sort of caveat on it G to make your point...Rather silly to do that though if you ask me...
 

stupot07

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  • Oct 26, 2020
  • #120
Dowies league results ppg were no better than Colemans. He had a decent win% but had an almost identical loss %, we rarely drew games.

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Grendel

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  • Oct 27, 2020
  • #121
Skyblueweeman said:
% wins as manager of CCFC:

Mark Robins (1st time) - 51.52%
Harry Storer - 47.18%
Eric Black - 45.45%
Mark Robins (this time) - 44.64%
Jimmy Hill - 44.33%
Roland Nillson - 44.19%
Iain Dowie - 40.82%
John Sillett - 40.78%

So, like I said, Dowie is 7th in the CCFC list of managers by win % and is almost on a par with Sillett.

You go ahead though and put some sort of caveat on it G to make your point...Rather silly to do that though if you ask me...
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You have included Robins twice, counted the time Curtis and sillett managed together and only included one of Storers reigns
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Oct 27, 2020
  • #122
Grendel said:
You have included Robins twice, counted the time Curtis and sillett managed together and only included one of Storers reigns
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Stop clutching at straws G and just admit you're wrong on something.

I said on my original post that I had counted Robins twice. Hes managed in two separate periods with different squads so should be counted twice.

It doesn't matter if Sillett and Curtis were together...every manager has an Asst Mgr...its then a case of just being a job title. Joint Mgr or Asst Mgr.

I only counted one of Storers reigns because he had a higher win % than Dowie in one of his reigns.

You said you thought Dowie has the 3rd best win % in the clubs history.

That's quite clearly, and factually, incorrect.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Oct 27, 2020
  • #123
Grendel said:
No that’s wrong regarding Sillett and if you are including Lee Carsley etc than that’s rather silly really
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Sillett P150 W56 D39 L55 Win%37.33 PPG 1.38
Dowie P49 W20 D8 L21 Win%40.82 PPG1.39

Black and Nilsson also have pretty impressive records. Mind you Mark Venus has a PPG record of 1.44 and 44.44win%
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 27, 2020
  • #124
stupot07 said:
Dowies league results ppg were no better than Colemans. He had a decent win% but had an almost identical loss %, we rarely drew games.

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If we won 40% of our games this season (round down to 18) we'd most probably stay up on 54 points, even if we lost the remainder.
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 27, 2020
  • #125
fernandopartridge said:
If we won 40% of our games this season (round down to 18) we'd most probably stay up on 54 points, even if we lost the remainder.
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Black was the same we almost lost as many games as we won - I discount him a bit as he was managing a very short period and also it was a bizarre sequence of big wins followed by awful defeats
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 27, 2020
  • #126
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Sillett P150 W56 D39 L55 Win%37.33 PPG 1.38
Dowie P49 W20 D8 L21 Win%40.82 PPG1.39

Black and Nilsson also have pretty impressive records. Mind you Mark Venus has a PPG record of 1.44 and 44.44win%
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Sillett P150 W56 D39 L55 Win%37.33 PPG 1.38
Dowie P49 W20 D8 L21 Win%40.82 PPG1.39

Black and Nilsson also have pretty impressive records. Mind you Mark Venus has a PPG record of 1.44 and 44.44win%
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The Venus record shows how pointless new stats are vs old. He won two league games - other wins were in that stupid cup against I assume U23 and weakened teams
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 27, 2020
  • #127
Grendel said:
Black was the same we almost lost as many games as we won - I discount him a bit as he was managing a very short period and also it was a bizarre sequence of big wins followed by awful defeats
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Perhaps though I strongly suspect he’d have fared a lot better than Peter Reid the following season
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 27, 2020
  • #128
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Perhaps though I strongly suspect he’d have fared a lot better than Peter Reid the following season
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He should not have been sacked but his reputation is blown up a bit - we got thumped in some key games as well. The big difference was the guy from Iceland was superb in that period and never reproduced the form and we lost Davenport very early in Reids reign
 
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