Earlsdon_Skyblue1
Well-Known Member
There's a difference between taking someone seriously and saying there is a need for transparency on a difficult issue.
If you’re not taking him seriously why did you say in your opening post that we need TR? Why have you constantly attacked people who point out why we shouldn’t take him seriously? What points has he made exactly?
There's a difference between taking someone seriously and saying there is a need for transparency on a difficult issue.
Yes, and it clouds your judgment.
Stop the faux outrage. If we can't criticise anything because groups have been persecuted in the past then we are in trouble.
There's a difference between taking someone seriously and saying there is a need for transparency on a difficult issue.
And you may want to look up the ethnic demographic of child sex offenders, I am very much in the bracket of one of the highest offending groups, but they are still very much a minority and I would not want to be labelled because of the crimes of a small minority.
UK population: 87% white, 6.9% Asian, 3% black.With Muslims being at 5% of the UK population, you can see why their appearances are staggerinly high given that they only show up a fration less than white British.
UK population: 87% white, 6.9% Asian, 3% black.
Child sex offenders: 90% white, 4% Asian, 3% black.
The 2011 CEOP study breaks down grooming gangs as 30% white, 28% Asian 3% black and 38% unknown which doesn't really show much with so many unknown although the study suggests non white ethnicity is more likely to be recorded.
UK population: 87% white, 6.9% Asian, 3% black.
Child sex offenders: 90% white, 4% Asian, 3% black.
you don't understand the phrase faux outrage.
Faux outrage is people pretending to be outraged about something when they are just trying to pursue an agenda.
You do it on nearly every thread with your anti muslim crusade.
My stance is simple, pursue the people involved not the whole community, pursuing the whole community is how the nazis started, some of your rhetoric is dangerously close to theirs, I've actually given you examples before of some of your quotes and similar ones aimed at the Jews by the black shirts in the 40s.
But no doubt you'll tell me this is different.
So you are taking him seriously then.
Which one is it then?
One minute it is 28%, the next 4%.
One minute you are denying you are trying to say there isn't a problem, the next you are denying there is a problem.
doesn't it mean that grooming gangs is a specific type of sexual offence, so 28% for grooming gangs but 4% overall.
Yes I do. You are pretending to be outraged at my comments because they sound 'similar' to hitler when he was talking about Jews. Everyone knows deep down (including yourself) that it is a load of bollocks.
It's just a typical tactic of trying to shut down the opponent in a debate. Cry that someone sounds like hitler so they cannot argue back.
By ignoring the background these people come from, you are ignoring the problem, all for the sake of political correctness.
Carry on trying to find a way out for them if you want...
you said to CD make your mind up, I was pointing out those statistic refer to different things, I thought it was fairly obvious but was just trying to point it out to you.
Why do you think I want to find a way to help sex offenders?
Because you cannot stand the fact an alarming amount of them are muslim.
so you're saying I want to help sex offenders? Idiot.
I want them all locked up, I don't want innocent people in their communities locked up, that's the difference between me and you.
No, the difference between me and you is that I'm not scared to acknowledge there is a problem from a certain community.
There is a big difference between that and wanting innocent people locked up.
but if the statistics provided by CD are correct then there is a huge problem in the white community and the stats I've read put me in the demographic of the biggest offending group, I would not want to be labelled as a sex offender because of that.
There is a problem with sex offending full stop. I'm not sure why it is so desirable as part of the kick of shagging for me is that a girl actually wants to have sex with you.
I agree that this is not a problem exclusive to muslims by any means, but I have a stronger point of view that there are a staggeringly high number coming from this background which I don't think has been dealt with properly by the media or the government. It frustrates me even further when I feel like people are arguing against that for the sake of it, or because they have a particular agenda.
As I said, I don't think Tommy Robinson is the solution, I certainly don't like him either. We need transparency and we need moderate people who will call it as it is. People like Tommy Robinson would then be irrelevant to wider audiences.
so if what you say is true what would you want the government to do?
I would start with implementing a public zero tolerance policy straight away. They need to know they are not going to get away with it, or be able to hide behind their religion. Community leaders need to be brought onside to echo this and a mass clean up is needed. The time of getting away with it is over.
One of my friends works for social services and goes on call to round up naughty kids (she'd hate me describing her job as that, but it is pretty much exactly what she does). She is a bit ignorant about the wider picture but talks a lot about younger vulnerable girls 'covering themselves up' and going to meet groups of men in hotels all the time. They frequently report it to the police and they do nothing. That has to change.
You might think I've made that up to further my argument, but I assure you that's absolute truth. They don't want to know.
As I have said with terrorists, any foreign born perpetrators need to be deported, any British born need harsh and point-making sentences in prison. The last point is obviously particularly relevant to all paedos who continually think it is still worth the risk.
You do realise that you constantly repeat his rhetoric? Maybe you don’t take yourself seriously either in that case. In that case there’s no point anyone taking you seriously.Yeah, that's clearly exactly what I said.
As I said, I don't think Tommy Robinson is the solution,
with regard to terrorism you're talking about the same government who've got rid of thousands of police officers and told Chief constables they were being 'drama queens' when they were warned of the consequences so I wouldn't hold your breath.
As for the police not responding to reports of young girls with groups of men I can't say I'm surprised and it's scandalous to be honest but you need to remember that recently someone got jailed for throwing a smoke bomb in the same week someone who had 2,000 indecent images of children didn't get a custodial.
You said we need Tommy Robinson in your first post on this thread. Have you changed your mind all of a sudden?
You do realise that you constantly repeat his rhetoric? Maybe you don’t take yourself seriously either in that case. In that case there’s no point anyone taking you seriously.
Where did those figures come from ? How are the stats just in England ?UK population: 87% white, 6.9% Asian, 3% black.
Child sex offenders: 90% white, 4% Asian, 3% black.
Someone's determined to blame the foreigners...Where did those figures come from ? How are the stats just in England ?
Truth is I think we've lost all idea of the population structure now, we lost control of the borders about 20 years ago. Are those 'White figures' including the 750,000 Poles, 400,000 plus Romanians, then there are the Bulgarians, Baltic states etc etc
Blaming foreigners for what, I was just asking questions about stats.Someone's determined to blame the foreigners...
BINGO!white native lefties
the reality is , in terms of child grooming Gangs that over 80% of offenders are from Bangladeshi or Pakistani Muslim descent .
This is fact backed up by majid nawaz a Muslim man who agrees there is a problem within the community .
He has also argued with Muslims regularly on his LBC radio show about their attitudes towards women and homosexuals .
He believes there are fundamental problems associated with the religion itself .
However for the white native lefties this isn’t enough as they know best .
Tommy Robinson I’m not really bothered about , there is a lot of FACTUAL things he says .
You may not like or agree with that statement , doesn’t alter the reality .
It’s not just white racist EDL idiots that hate Islam , Sikhs Jews catholics christians Buddhist bastard monks all seem to have problems with the religion , but obviously it’s everybody else’s fault as they are all islamophobic .
Fucking sleep walking some people
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