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SBAndy

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  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #176
Sky Blue Pete said:
We have to take these risks to improve the squad where we can
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Pete, forgive me, but you seem to be very blasé about these kind of things in the last few months, far more so than 12-18 months ago. I don’t think we have to take “these risks” (which I read as hiring a bellend and employing someone who doesn’t cover our positional requirements) to improve the squad - I really don’t think he improves the squad sufficiently to counter the above.
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #177
SBAndy said:
Pete, forgive me, but you seem to be very blasé about these kind of things in the last few months, far more so than 12-18 months ago. I don’t think we have to take “these risks” (which I read as hiring a bellend and employing someone who doesn’t cover our positional requirements) to improve the squad - I really don’t think he improves the squad sufficiently to counter the above.
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He has baggage which has done his reputation in but in my opinion adds squad depth to the RWB and LWB areas which are a concern for us. Dacosta just isn’t the standard. This would have to be quite the calculated gamble by Robins.
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #178
Are we writing him off because of headlines or do people know exactly what happened and what was said?

“Todd admitted using the wording ‘diving, foreign *expletive*’ in response to being called an ‘*expletive* ugly, English *expletive*’.

It seems it wasn't something specific about ethnicity, just because he referred to him as foreign. Assume no-one on here has done anything similar. Or sung along to "dirty northern b******s"?
 
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SBAndy

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #179
AFCCOVENTRY said:
He has baggage which has done his reputation in but in my opinion adds squad depth to the RWB and LWB areas which are a concern for us. Dacosta just isn’t the standard. This would have to be quite the calculated gamble by Robins.
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In what way does he provide cover at LWB? He’s played LB (so not even the position we need) once in over 200 pro games, and yet we think he’s some kind of utility man?

Fact is, if we’re playing WBs then we need to make sure they can play there properly - they are key to our entire system.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #180
SBAndy said:
In what way does he provide cover at LWB? He’s played LB (so not even the position we need) once in over 200 pro games, and yet we think he’s some kind of utility man?

Fact is, if we’re playing WBs then we need to make sure they can play there properly - they are key to our entire system.
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If he signed he would be looking to start. If he started we’d be pushing Dabo out of the side for someone who hasn’t actually played much as a wing back. The same applies if we start him anywhere else.
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #181
SBAndy said:
In what way does he provide cover at LWB? He’s played LB (so not even the position we need) once in over 200 pro games, and yet we think he’s some kind of utility man?

Fact is, if we’re playing WBs then we need to make sure they can play there properly - they are key to our entire system.
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He played quite a few games at Hull at LWB, in fact scoring a goal from that position. But he is a RWB by trade. I’m saying he provides another option there but it isn’t the ideal solution for that position. I think we might be seeing more than one player coming in, especially if Shipley and Pask are on the move.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #182
slowpoke said:
How do you know that, I know a QPR fan who rated him as a decent player
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Is that a lie?
 
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Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #183
What I don't get is that it seemed he had a bit of an attitude due to not being first choice at QPR but I doubt we're telling him he'll start most games here either.

Seems like a big gamble.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #184
Rupert in every thread


 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #185
Perryccfc said:
I have a QPR supporting mate who text me saying apparently TK is coming to us, and said avoid at all costs, total c**t.

Can only assume AV is pushing for him because of the Chelsea links.
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Or the fact he’s played 150 championship games…
 
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Briles

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #186
Its quite amazing how many people on here have such a deep intricate understanding of an individual that they've never met or seen play.
 
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larry_david

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  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #187
Rumour is gathering pace
 

SBAndy

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #188
AFCCOVENTRY said:
He played quite a few games at Hull at LWB, in fact scoring a goal from that position. But he is a RWB by trade. I’m saying he provides another option there but it isn’t the ideal solution for that position. I think we might be seeing more than one player coming in, especially if Shipley and Pask are on the move.
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Fair, I had filtered firstly for LWB and then for LB. Seems he’s also played LM 7 times. So out of his 215 pro games he’s covered in a similar position 8 times. Forgive me, still not sufficient cover in my book.

As others have also said, he seems to have a level of entitlement to not be satisfied being backup either.
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #189
Grendel said:
Or the fact he’s played 150 championship games…
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Kevin Kyle played 110 Championship games, whats your point?
 
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mr_monkey

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #190
Briles said:
Its quite amazing how many people on here have such a deep intricate understanding of an individual that they've never met or seen play.
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You must be new here

Just remember the experts on here thought that Moore was a waste of money and was going to be terrible
 
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Briles

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #191
mr_monkey said:
You must be new here

Just remember the experts on here thought that Moore was a waste of money and was going to be terrible
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I quite enjoy reading about players we are linked with, people have so much to say with very little basis. Its like a political discussion
 

fatso

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #192
mr_monkey said:
You must be new here

Just remember the experts on here thought that Moore was a waste of money and was going to be terrible
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That's total bollocks, people expressed concerns that Moore looked poor in pre-season, which he absolutely did, they wernt sure if he was an upgrade on Marosi or if it was just a case of working to blow the rust off.
After 4 league games he now looks the part. That's the truth of the matter.
Sorry if that doesnt quite fit your hyperbole!
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #193
mr_monkey said:
You must be new here

Just remember the experts on here thought that Moore was a waste of money and was going to be terrible
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No one actually said that.

Bizarre post.
 
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mr_monkey

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #194
fatso said:
That's total bollocks, people expressed concerns that Moore looked poor in pre-season, which he absolutely did, they wernt sure if he was an upgrade on Marosi or if it was just a case of working to blow the rust off.
After 4 league games he now looks the part. That's the truth of the matter.
Sorry if that doesnt quite fit your hyperbole!
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Absolutely not before he even kicked (or caught) a ball in pre season he was being slated as not good enough because he hadn't played for sheff utd in the premiership (who in the last seasons have had 2 international keepers) and people wanted us to sign Walton (again on no evidence)

All I'm saying is the same with this guy, if he signs then wait and see if he is good enough or not as no one on here would have seem him consistently enough to pass that kind of judgement
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #195
Ccfcisparks said:
Kevin Kyle played 110 Championship games, whats your point?
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Looking forward to seeing how he tries to wriggle out of this one!
 

better days

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #196
mark82 said:
Are we writing him off because of headlines or do people know exactly what happened and what was said?

“Todd admitted using the wording ‘diving, foreign *expletive*’ in response to being called an ‘*expletive* ugly, English *expletive*’.

It seems it wasn't something specific about ethnicity, just because he referred to him as foreign. Assume no-one on here has done anything similar. Or sung along to "dirty northern b******s"?
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The thing is he was punished and served the ban
Providing there isn't a repetition it's case closed in law surely?
 
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Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #197
Fuck me, some of you lot on here

'im concerned about this signing'

My god. He had a bit of verbal with a player. So fucking what. Should be more concerned that we signed a player who's had 4 games in 3 years and had 2 contracts ripped up, who is also fucking AWOL as we speak.


Hes a championship quality Defender who can cover all across the back. For free. What more do you want?
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #198
Ccfcisparks said:
Kevin Kyle played 110 Championship games, whats your point?
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My point he’s been a regular in the QPR team before that hardly missed a game for Hull and before that played for blackburn - all in the championship
 
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fatso

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #199
mr_monkey said:
Absolutely not before he even kicked (or caught) a ball in pre season he was being slated as not good enough because he hadn't played for sheff utd in the premiership (who in the last seasons have had 2 international keepers) and people wanted us to sign Walton (again on no evidence)

All I'm saying is the same with this guy, if he signs then wait and see if he is good enough or not as no one on here would have seem him consistently enough to pass that kind of judgement
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I dont doubt that Kane is good enough, that's not the issue, the point is if he can integrate into the squad or not, by all accounts he's been ostracized at QPR.
And if his problems are not being happy at sitting on the bench down there, what's he going to be like sitting on the bench here?
He's not going to displace Dabo, so I can only see him being cover at best.
Another Pask maybe?
 

Greggs

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #200
Easy to spell. Get him singed.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #201
Saddlebrains said:
Fuck me, some of you lot on here

'im concerned about this signing'

My god. He had a bit of verbal with a player. So fucking what. Should be more concerned that we signed a player who's had 4 games in 3 years and had 2 contracts ripped up, who is also fucking AWOL as we speak.


Hes a championship quality Defender who can cover all across the back. For free. What more do you want?
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The difference is Bright was at least liked by fans and players last time.

This guy is hated by fans and players.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #202
Judging by the more sensible comments on social media (shock I know) and their forum it seems as if there's a talented player in there but he struggles with consistency. I think he'd be a good addition as a back up as he seems fairly versatile.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #203
Saddlebrains said:
Fuck me, some of you lot on here

'im concerned about this signing'

My god. He had a bit of verbal with a player. So fucking what. Should be more concerned that we signed a player who's had 4 games in 3 years and had 2 contracts ripped up, who is also fucking AWOL as we speak.


Hes a championship quality Defender who can cover all across the back. For free. What more do you want?
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My thoughts
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #204
PVA said:
The difference is Bright was at least liked by fans and players last time.

This guy is hated by fans and players.
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Is he hated by the players?

The fans seem to have some weird agenda against him. I think he probably is quite arrogant - perhaps Chelsea syndrome - but if he had such a bad reputation surely Adi Viveash would put the breaks on bringing him in as I assume he would've coached him whilst at Chelsea.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #205
This is what he said. Imagine a lot of players feel like this but to say it on a fans podcast is a strange strategy

 
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gspotgaz

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #206
We aren’t in a position financially to sign established championship players. Not sure what our fans expect sometimes.

This is realistically the best we can probably go for with the obvious risk he could be a ‘bad egg’. I’d imagine robins sees the positives (utility player and proven at this level) outweigh the risks.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #207
Grendel said:
My point he’s been a regular in the QPR team before that hardly missed a game for Hull and before that played for blackburn - all in the championship
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So did Kevin kyle, doesnt mean hes a good player.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #208
SlowerThanPlatt said:
This is what he said. Imagine a lot of players feel like this but to say it on a fans podcast is a strange strategy

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Very David Brent.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #209
Ccfcisparks said:
So did Kevin kyle, doesnt mean hes a good player.
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He didn’t he played for one club not 3.

He had only played 20 games in 3 seasons

He cost a fairly high fee

He was replacing our best player

There is no comparison
 
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Gibbo

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  • Aug 27, 2021
  • #210
Ccfcisparks said:
So did Kevin kyle, doesnt mean hes a good player.
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I seem to remember Kevin Kyle scoring a late winner at QPR one tuesday evening (under Coleman I think). Good goal.
 
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