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Tim said we are moving to rugby (3 Viewers)

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skyblue025

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #211
Can see it now. We move to Rugby, JR3 is launched, Wasps last 3 or 4 years, go bankrupt, sell the Ricoh to the highest bidder which is a developer, it's knocked down and becomes a housing estate. Meanwhile the City are in Rugby..........
 

CanadianCCFC

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #212
Ashdown said:
Someone brings the legals forward, SISU are told to fucking pack it in as they haven't got a solid case, the EFL find them unfit owners and fuck them off, the club is sold and the new owners strike a deal with our landlords to stay in Cov ?!
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1. Do you think someone telling them to pack it in is going to change their course of action?
2. They haven’t broken any laws and therefore aren’t unfit owners according to the EFL.
3. The club isn’t going to be sold in time to get a ground deal for next season.
 

CanadianCCFC

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #213
skyblue025 said:
Can see it now. We move to Rugby, JR3 is launched, Wasps last 3 or 4 years, go bankrupt, sell the Ricoh to the highest bidder which is a developer, it's knocked down and becomes a housing estate. Meanwhile the City are in Rugby..........
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Rugby is a backup in case we can’t get a Ricoh deal. In which case you should say meanwhile the city exist. Meanwhile the city aren’t liquidated.
 
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CCFC54321

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #214
Bumberclart said:
Wasps failure to qualify for Europe will do them more financial damage than City leaving.
But, put the two together and add falling attendances, and you start to see a financial shit show developing.... Shame.
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CCFC leaving isn’t going to help wasps one bit financially. Wasps are right in the shit financialy with no way in paying it back. Gates dropping, no European rugby next season, senior players leaving and being replaced with foreign imports that won’t settle indicate its going south fast.

My opinion is SISU will hold out until wasps go under in a couple or three years. And it is heading that way isn’t it?
 
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Magwitch

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #215
Leamington Pete said:
Anyway, with respect to the OP, if Fisher had really said this today at the game to a " bunch of people " it would have spread like wildfire and be all over social media by now. I smell BS.
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Were Tim Fishers eyes bleeding when he spoke to this “bunch” of people ?
 
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CV22SBA

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #216
ccfctommy said:
Am I fuck going to Rugby
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Try it. You wouldn’t wanna go fucking back lol
 
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Magwitch

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #217
Playing at Rugby:
When and how do we get back that’s the important question, surely the only question. IF there is land somewhere in Cov it would surely be identified by now.

So let’s talk Rugby Towns ground realistically, yes it’s nearer than last time, Sixfields, easier to get to from most of Coventry, good train service too, not so sure about night matches though. But as has been pointed out Butlin Road is not fit at the moment for EFL standards OR security. Erecting temporary stand/stands would require planning permission and there’s just one road in been once years ago so can’t remember the housing situation, I would think anyone living nearby would object to the whole concept. Any Rugby based fans out there who could let us know.
Trouble is we need answers in just over a week and then again by April 26th and we are very nearly up the creek without a paddle. Desperation starting to creep in now.
 
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Rodders1

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #218
Magwitch said:
Playing at Rugby:
When and how do we get back that’s the important question, surely the only question. IF there is land somewhere in Cov it would surely be identified by now.

So let’s talk Rugby Towns ground realistically, yes it’s nearer than last time, Sixfields, easier to get to from most of Coventry, good train service too, not so sure about night matches though. But as has been pointed out Butlin Road is not fit at the moment for EFL standards OR security. Erecting temporary stand/stands would require planning permission and there’s just one road in been once years ago so can’t remember the housing situation, I would think anyone living nearby would object to the whole concept. Any Rugby based fans out there who could let us know.
Trouble is we need answers in just over a week and then again by April 26th and we are very nearly up the creek without a paddle. Desperation starting to creep in now.
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You’re pretty much bang on - yes one suburban street leading to the ground. The owners on that street would probably have issues with thousands of fans arriving every two weeks rather than a couple hundred for rugby town (which would obviously be alternate weeks also!)

Haven’t been in a couple years but think loads would need to be done to the ground to handle the numbers not just to raise the capacity. Like segregation. Toilets, and refreshments. Does seems a big ask even if planning is granted.
 

ccfcway

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #219
CCFC54321 said:
My opinion is SISU will hold out until wasps go under in a couple or three years. And it is heading that way isn’t it?
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Assuming that happens, surely the CCC wouldn’t give CCFC the stadium and just allow it to have a rental agreement. Don’t think that will help Sisu too much
 
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Elvis Pressley

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #220
Magwitch said:
Were Tim Fishers eyes bleeding when he spoke to this “bunch” of people ?
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Yes because a bunch of people want to give him a punch.
 
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Magwitch

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #221
ccfcway said:
Assuming that happens, surely the CCC wouldn’t give CCFC the stadium and just allow it to have a rental agreement. Don’t think that will help Sisu too much
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Who actually owns the stadium is it Wasps as in this Derrick Richardson chap or is it ACL which could be separate to the actual rugby club.
We are told business wise the Ricoh is doing okay so I’d think it would continue as a going concern.
 

Sbarcher

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #222
The Planning process for upgrading Butlin Rd could easily take up to a year if there are objections.
 
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Magwitch

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #223
If you live on that road leading to the ground surley you are bound to object, I would. One chance of a visit from Millwall would be enough.
 

Elvis Pressley

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #224
The irony of having the ground intended for Coventry's football club being sold to a rugby club and then Coventry's football club playing in rugby is just, well, ironic!
 
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Otis

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #225
Magwitch said:
Were Tim Fishers eyes bleeding when he spoke to this “bunch” of people ?
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You may not be able to have a bunch of people, but you can certainly have a bunch of hypocrites.
 
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CV22SBA

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #226
Sbarcher said:
The Planning process for upgrading Butlin Rd could easily take up to a year if there are objections.
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The ground is in better condition than a fair few I’ve been to in L2 & L1 the last couple of seasons. It currently holds 6K so any planning permission I guess would be over time to increase to 9K not from day 1. Segregation is also ok, Kidderminster took 2K the other season but I imagine we would just give a stand behind the goal.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #227
Magwitch said:
Who actually owns the stadium is it Wasps as in this Derrick Richardson chap or is it ACL which could be separate to the actual rugby club.
We are told business wise the Ricoh is doing okay so I’d think it would continue as a going concern.
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I guess it’s how you judge ok it certainly doesn’t survive without sports teams there.
 
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Magwitch

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #228
CV22SBA said:
The ground is in better condition than a fair few I’ve been to in L2 & L1 the last couple of seasons. It currently holds 6K so any planning permission I guess would be over time to increase to 9K not from day 1. Segregation is also ok, Kidderminster took 2K the other season but I imagine we would just give a stand behind the goal.
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But is it correct there is only one road to get to the ground and you would be talking being in use every week plus night games do you think local residents will accept that ?
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #229
Magwitch said:
But is it correct there is only one road to get to the ground and you would be talking being in use every week plus night games do you think local residents will accept that ?
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Will their council force them to accept it as we will bring a lot of money into the local area and the prestige of having a professional football club there something that is lost on the thicko’s within Coventry City Council
 
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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #230
JulianDarbyFTW said:
I need to hear a second or third person claim to have been in the room when it was said before I begin to believe this. I've been using the internet for too many years to trust anything off the say-so of one person.
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Worth noting today, also!
 

MalcSB

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #231
pusbccfc said:
It's not that capacity, it's the things like segregation.

I'm not sure sure it is currently in the position to handle 2000 away fans.
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Jus restrict tickets for away fans, easy peasy.
 
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Magwitch

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #232
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Will their council force them to accept it as we will bring a lot of money into the local area and the prestige of having a professional football club there something that is lost on the thicko’s within Coventry City Council
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How can the council force acceptance ? Yes they can recommend and push for it but that would take time, a lot of it we have a month or a bit more perhaps. Unless we are further down the road than we are told there just isn’t the time as I see it and if it was it would be surely out in the open by now.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #233
Magwitch said:
How can the council force acceptance ? Yes they can recommend and push for it but that would take time, a lot of it we have a month or a bit more perhaps. Unless we are further down the road than we are told there just isn’t the time as I see it and if it was it would be surely out in the open by now.
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How can the residents stop it they can complain about it but not a lot else and the council could push through the planning quickly for temporary stands as they aren’t Coventry council who are slow.
 
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covboy1987

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #234
Haven't we all been through this pain before - Coventry have to play in Coventry full stop - EFL have said Coventry must play in Coventry - playing out of the city we will not attract the players or the fans and Robins for one will be off - a good offer has been put on the table take it and let us get on with supporting our team in our home city - if we play anywhere else the club will never improve and eventually end up non - league
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #235
The whole thing maybe just to make London wasps blink first and offer a deal, I really hope not though actugh little ground like that could give us a real advantage compared to the Ricoh where everyone loves to come plus minimal away fans
 
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CV22SBA

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #236
Magwitch said:
But is it correct there is only one road to get to the ground and you would be talking being in use every week plus night games do you think local residents will accept that ?
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3 roads lead off Clifton Road to the ground. Butlin Road goes all the way to the ground. Townsend road leads onto Butlin Road so it’s just the last few yards where they are merged. Can’t remember the name of the 3rd.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #237
covboy1987 said:
Haven't we all been through this pain before - Coventry have to play in Coventry full stop - EFL have said Coventry must play in Coventry - playing out of the city we will not attract the players or the fans and Robins for one will be off - a good offer has been put on the table take it and let us get on with supporting our team in our home city - if we play anywhere else the club will never improve and eventually end up non - league
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Have I missed the good offer?
 
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Magwitch

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #238
Segregation is also ok, Kidderminster took 2K the other season but I imagine we would just give a stand behind the goal.[/QUOTE]
Wasn’t there a lot of trouble that day, seem to remember a lot of court cases involving Kidderminster fans somewhere.
 
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skyblue025

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #239
The more I think about it the more I smell bullshit. It's only going to take the police to object to it being stopped. Can't see them giving the nod if it's as people describe. Local residents are going to be up in arms. Sounds like another classic Fishface whopper.
 

Elvis Pressley

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #240
Terry Gibson's perm said:
The whole thing maybe just to make London wasps blink first and offer a deal, I really hope not though actugh little ground like that could give us a real advantage compared to the Ricoh where everyone loves to come plus minimal away fans
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Smoke screens again from SISU trying to get Wasps/CCC to move first.
Sometimes you have to use PROPAGANDA to give your situation leveridge ... And , this is what i ''Suspect'' Fisher was doing at the meeting yesterday . i honestly , wouldn't trust him in anything he said.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #241
Imagine trying to entice any half decent players to come to us with this piss take of a groundshare should it come to fruition.
 
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Magwitch

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #242
CV22SBA said:
3 roads lead off Clifton Road to the ground. Butlin Road goes all the way to the ground. Townsend road leads onto Butlin Road so it’s just the last few yards where they are merged. Can’t remember the name of the 3rd.
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skyblue025 said:
The more I think about it the more I smell bullshit. It's only going to take the police to object to it being stopped. Can't see them giving the nod if it's as people describe. Local residents are going to be up in arms. Sounds like another classic Fishface whopper.
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My thoughts also if this was before Christmas with a few months to go before d-day I’d think there could be a chance but there’s just over a month and as it stands looks to me like locals not asked yet.
 

higgs

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #243
We could generate a cracking atmosphere if we filled it every week. If we bought it is there room to extend the capacity?

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skyblue025

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #244
ccfcway said:
Assuming that happens, surely the CCC wouldn’t give CCFC the stadium and just allow it to have a rental agreement. Don’t think that will help Sisu too much
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I agree I can't see Wasp/the council letting SISU get their hands on the stadium if Wasps go pop unless they are the highest bidder by a long way. I think they would rather it was housing than hand it over. What would it be worth to a developer? It's prime building land. Excellent road infrastructure, train station, shopping centre, restaurants. It ticks all the boxes. If we leave we might never get back. Best thing that can happen is JR 2 is thrown out at soon as possible. Hopefully that's the end of the legals, cost awarded and we can discuss staying at the Ricoh. Us fans can go back to the good old days and discuss football.
 
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Magwitch

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #245
higgs said:
We could generate a cracking atmosphere if we filled it every week. If we bought it is there room to extend the capacity?

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We are a Coventry club why buy a ground in pissing Rugby
 
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