Is that relevant to the point NW is making?at least their home ground isnt in Torquay
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28769790
Bearing in mind they're probably the best example of a success... mainly off the back however of investing cup windfalls wisely.
It's all relative. They've over estimated attendances which they then budgeted against. The same could easily happen here.Who said/thinks it would be easy?
Is Exeter's potential fan base comparable to ours?
at least their home ground isnt in Torquay
It's all relative. They've over estimated attendances which they then budgeted against. The same could easily happen here.
The ownership model is almost irrelevant in the current football world. Football is just not sustainable. Fan ownership would be nice but must be backed by serious capital and decision making must be objective to even begin to prosper.What ownership model would you prefer?
It's all relative. They've over estimated attendances which they then budgeted against. The same could easily happen here.
The ownership model is almost irrelevant in the current football world. Football is just not sustainable. Fan ownership would be nice but must be backed by serious capital and decision making must be objective to even begin to prosper.
Are you saying that because we're the mighty Coventry City that similar mistakes are less likely?It's only relative if we made the same mistakes. If we didn't over estimate attendances, and therefore budgeted accordingly, we shouldn't have a problem? Is that what you're saying?
The ownership model is almost irrelevant in the current football world. Football is just not sustainable. Fan ownership would be nice but must be backed by serious capital and decision making must be objective to even begin to prosper.
Are you saying that because we're the mighty Coventry City that similar mistakes are less likely?
It's all relative. They've over estimated attendances which they then budgeted against. The same could easily happen here.
I think the ownership model is important as the greater the number, consent takes over from megalomania; and if that consent is passionate about the long term sustainability of the club they support; then that's surely preferable to what we currently have?
Yes we wouldn't have a problem if we budgeted accordingly. I have never said otherwise.Where do you get that suggestion from?
Now, be so kind as to answer my question.
While that's true I haven't seen much evidence of City fans clamouring for long term sustainability being key to decision making. For example; see the constant sniping about not buying x players or trying to reduce the wage bill. Or even the hints at wanting Pressley out. Of course, these may be the minority view.I think the ownership model is important as the greater the number, consent takes over from megalomania; and if that consent is passionate about the long term sustainability of the club they support; then that's surely preferable to what we currently have?
Us?, overestimate attendances? Never...
It's not the behaviour of other club's fans we're interested in. We learn that over estimating is bad.In the past, undoubtedly. Do you not think we could learn from other peoples' mistakes?
Yes we wouldn't have a problem if we budgeted accordingly. I have never said otherwise.
In the past, undoubtedly. Do you not think we could learn from other peoples' mistakes?
No, unfortunately we're a Premier League Club/Sleeping Giant, etc. our fan-base wouldn't have the patience for fan ownership long term model.
It might be good for a season or two whilst the novelty is still there, then the fans will start to be impatient, and we know the rest...
The current situation has probably made many re-evaluate how they would like/accept the club to be run. I'd take long-term sustainability and realism any day.
While that's true I haven't seen much evidence of City fans clamouring for long term sustainability being key to decision making. For example; see the constant sniping about not buying x players or trying to reduce the wage bill. Or even the hints at wanting Pressley out. Of course, these may be the minority view.
Although I wouldn't suggest such a route is easy, I see no reason why it cannot work as a business model.
The fact you have to speak of a football club in terms of a business model shows, to my eyes, why it just won't work.
To work, it needs refocussing of rules, regulations and various incentives so they're not about money. It needs a rebalancing so that clubs no longer live hand to mouth. We really should get to the stage where having £millions sat in the bank for a rainy day is not seen as a bad thing!
As we stand, it's constantly rolling the roulette wheel, and that always needs a benefactor in the background to hand out some more chips when you run out.
While that's true I haven't seen much evidence of City fans clamouring for long term sustainability being key to decision making. For example; see the constant sniping about not buying x players or trying to reduce the wage bill. Or even the hints at wanting Pressley out. Of course, these may be the minority view.
The big clubs in germany are largely fan owned and sustainable.The ownership model is almost irrelevant in the current football world. Football is just not sustainable. Fan ownership would be nice but must be backed by serious capital and decision making must be objective to even begin to prosper.
One of the biggest problems with fan ownership in this country is having to keep pace with the other teams who aren't fan owned and are quite happy to lose millions each year. Imagine if we were fan owned. Back at the Ricoh we should have a big enough fan base generating enough income to get us out of this division but then what? Do we stick around as a mid table championship side. How long before others get fed up of that and demand the cheque book comes out?
One of the biggest problems with fan ownership in this country is having to keep pace with the other teams who aren't fan owned and are quite happy to lose millions each year. Imagine if we were fan owned. Back at the Ricoh we should have a big enough fan base generating enough income to get us out of this division but then what? Do we stick around as a mid table championship side. How long before others get fed up of that and demand the cheque book comes out?
Mid table championship?? We've be seasonal relegation candidates based on turnover.
What ownership model would you prefer?
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