Ccfcisparks
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is it just me, or are there more knobheads on the road when the weathers good
shmmeee
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I find everyone’s a nobhead when it’s hot but that’s probably cos I’m a grumpy arse.
Captain Dart
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This report shows much lower increases than your graph. I guess it shows there are many ways to represent the data, some are rather misleading or simply designed to support theory. https://assets.publishing.service.g...036/Long-term_mean_temperatures_1991-2020.pdf
For instance you can look at hot days in the USA and show a downward trend.
There must also be some doubts about the Urban heat island effect on the measurements being taken.
Anyway do outline what terrible things have happened as a result of a little warming in the last century, as far as I can tell most everything is a lot easier particularly in the milder winters, I can remember deep snowdrifts in the 1960's and lots of mentions on the TV about hypothermia, are you keen on an uptick of hypothermia deaths?
Every winter hypothermia extends its icy grip, causing 25,000 extra deaths per year in England for example. A decrease in air temperature of 1°C causes a 1.35% increase in mortality across Europe, and added up over the years, cold weather has caused far more deaths than any single heatwave event (source Hypothermia: why most deaths are preventable).
There are plenty of arguments and data to counter your alarmism.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Wrong thread perhaps, but to put it in simple terms:I'm not doubting it's getting hotter, what is debatable is the extent that the human involvement has had on that global warming.
For example, the earth was a lot hotter during the time of the dinosaurs than it is now, and since that time there have been cycles of warming and cooling, and even some ice ages. The earth's temperature appears to go in cycles, and we are still coming out of the last ice age, so warming to some extent is to be expected.
Scientists that have been measuring antarctic ice formations are saying that the ice field is now growing again, which would contradict what NASA has been telling us for years, although NASA is huridly trying to convince the world that this is only a temporary measure, which is laughable as every school child knows that ice doesn't form in warming waters.
NASA satellites show Antarctica has gained ice despite rising global temperatures. How is that possible?
An abrupt change in Antarctica has caused the continent to gain ice. But this increase, documented in NASA satellite data, is a temporary anomaly rather than an indication that global warming has reversed, scientists say.www.livescience.com
Also Warwick uni did their own independant research on earth temperatures that completely contradicted the story peddled by main stream media, and suggested warming and cooling cycles over millions of years with graphs predicting future temperatures, the results were put on line at one point, if I can find them I'll link to them. It's interesting reading.
Greenhouse gases like CO2 absorb infra red radiation that comes from the Sun and is reflected back off the Earth’s surface
CO2 is a product of burning fossil fuels
Humans burn fossil fuels
Humans have therefore played a significant role in boosting the greenhouse effect
fatso
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Then China's fucked us all
China is Building Coal-Fired Power Plants at an Alarming Rate
As the number one importer of both crude oil and coal, China is the largest consumer of energy and CO2 producer in the world. Approximately one-third of...
Brighton Sky Blue
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It’s very guilty, no doubting that. Though President ‘Drill Baby Drill’ isn’t far behind.Then China's fucked us all
China is Building Coal-Fired Power Plants at an Alarming Rate
As the number one importer of both crude oil and coal, China is the largest consumer of energy and CO2 producer in the world. Approximately one-third of...insights.taylorduma.com
Captain Dart
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Oversimplified POV and frankly no one has proved what you say is definitively true, this is still a theory, besides human activity accounts for only ~5% of atmospheric CO2 generation and it's likely any heating effect will eventually reach a saturation point, in fact that may have already have happened at some wavelengths.
Did you know scientists have extracted ice cores from Greenland going back to the last interglacial 115.000 to 130.000 years before present, the temperatures estimated (I think) by measuring the ratios of different water isotopes show temperatures then were 5 deg C higher than at present.
There is so much conflicting and often confusing information but one thing is certain, big business want a slice of the climate change cake. Follow the money, Al Gore who predicted a complete lack of snow on Kilimanjaro (never happened) and the Arctic Ocean would be ice free by 2014 (nope) once charged upwards of $200,000 speaking events and these days is worth about $300M.
I'm still waiting to see the billions of deaths JSO regularly predict, actually they've been quiet recently have all these wars knocked what they claim is an existential threat to the human race off the front page?
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Brighton Sky Blue
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I have taught this to 13 year olds without much difficulty, but you seem to be struggling.
Knowing how a gas absorbs radiation is a proven scientific fact.
Knowing that carbon dioxide is a product of combustion is also a proven scientific fact.
Knowing that we have significantly increased our fossil fuel combustion in the past 2 centuries is again a fact.
It is true also that in the more distant past the temperatures fluctuated. To hope that this is another natural fluctuation in the face of overwhelming and basic scientific evidence, is the mark of a crack conspiracy theorist.
Captain Dart
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Facts maybe (and I never said otherwise) but then you've jumped rapidly to an anti human position and concluded we're all doomed because of how we behave and liberally sprinkled it with a couple of ad hominem attacks.
Are you one of these people who want to see a massive reduction in the number of people?
I ask again where is the problem, what is going to happen you're so worried about?
Give me some predictions from the recesses of your mighty mind.
Wyken Sky Blue
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'ill reach out to...'
Fuck off.
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