Nothing's been proven you sap. I havent had a season ticket since 17. So fucking what? Does that mean I havent been to a game since? No it doesnt. Of course I've been to games. Go and argue with some other fucker you bore .I'm hardly the thick one when you just proved the guys point without realising.
Chin up.
Thank you for such a pleasant reply, thankfully only part of it is correct if you look back at posts from Oct/Nov when Wasps were one from the bottom and everyone was telling me how shit we were and almost nailed on for relegation i pointed out that we had a lot of promising young players coming through combined with some quality new signings and established players coming back from long term injury, i also pointed out that once they had time to settle and get match time together they would improve drastically. from 27/12 to 07/03 when the games stopped we were in a great run of form and won 5 and lost 2 putting us 5th only 2pts from 4th and a play off place, hardly a car crash and hardly being saved by Saracens (Leicester were probably breathing a sigh of relieve though) so poor attendances i'll agree with you but car crash and even worse on pitch performances, dream on sunshine.Firstly, congratulations on your car crash of a season. Only saved by Saracens and coincided with kicking put the Citys 130year football club. Went from bad to worse. Dreadful attendances, even worse on pitch performances. Cant say it hasn't made a LOT of people in the city smile.
The best deal that can be done is w**ps fuck off back to London where they belong!
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Nothing's been proven you sap. I havent had a season ticket since 17. So fucking what? Does that mean I havent been to a game since? No it doesnt. Of course I've been to games. Go and argue with some other fucker you bore .
Firstly congratulations on promotion i don't think there is anybody that can say it isn't deserved, secondly i think all parties need to take a deep breathe calm down a sort out a deal that is profitable for both parties.
I used to keep all my season tickets but this is the earliest one I can find. So I'm calling bollocks on you. Sorry about the poor quality.You really don't help yourself or your point when you have outbursts like this (reminds me of certain Twitter accounts....) And I also refuse to believe that you are older than say 15 due to the way you post so I call bollocks on being a season ticket holder for that long
I used to keep all my season tickets but this is the earliest one I can find. So I'm calling bollocks on you. Sorry about the poor quality.
Because I am a loon.Then start talking like an adult rather than ranting and raving like a loon, people will be so much more responsive to you if you did (just a bit of friendly advice)
Thank you for such a pleasant reply, thankfully only part of it is correct if you look back at posts from Oct/Nov when Wasps were one from the bottom and everyone was telling me how shit we were and almost nailed on for relegation i pointed out that we had a lot of promising young players coming through combined with some quality new signings and established players coming back from long term injury, i also pointed out that once they had time to settle and get match time together they would improve drastically. from 27/12 to 07/03 when the games stopped we were in a great run of form and won 5 and lost 2 putting us 5th only 2pts from 4th and a play off place, hardly a car crash and hardly being saved by Saracens (Leicester were probably breathing a sigh of relieve though) so poor attendances i'll agree with you but car crash and even worse on pitch performances, dream on sunshine.
I used to keep all my season tickets but this is the earliest one I can find. So I'm calling bollocks on you. Sorry about the poor quality.
Most supporters know the truth the issue is that most people that participate in forums like this are massively biased to the club they support and as such are totally blinkered.Well said - HOWEVER can someone on your forum start telling the supporters some truth?
There are no legals outstanding between SISU and WASPS - this has been confirmed by the WASPS Board
The outstanding "matter" is a complaint from SISU against CCC
For some reason WASPS are fearful a decision will go against CCC which appears to invoke some indemnities costing WASPS a lot of money
If those two parties have been up to some dubious dealings that is THEIR problem
If that is the case I would like to know what went on both as a CCFC supporter and a local ratepayer
So maybe they should ask the council to protect them?Most supporters know the truth the issue is that most people that participate in forums like this are massively biased to the club they support and as such are totally blinkered.
People keep going on about legals call it whatever you want but Wasps will always try to protect themselves from anything that could cost them millions, now i have no idea if there is a case to answer by CCC as i like everyone else do not have all the information or the legal knowledge.
most replies are pretty pleasant well today anyway, some days i get dogs abuse and before anyone comments yes i'm fully aware of why.Tbf I think the replies on here are pretty pleasent compared to what I'm sure a lot of people really feel about wasps but then you know that and that's why the day after we get promoted you pop back on here
maybe they should, if CCC are happy with what they have done it shouldn't be an issueSo maybe they should ask the council to protect them?
members of my family are season ticket holders and I have no ill feeling towards CCFC or their supports (regardless of the abuse i receive), Wasps are now in Coventry and regardless of what is going to happen long term something needs to be done to start to rectify this shit sandwich immediately, i'm sure somebody will come out with comments like "well if you fuck off back to London that will solve everything" but right here right now that's not going to happen so lets all grow up and find a sensible short term solution.
Most supporters know the truth the issue is that most people that participate in forums like this are massively biased to the club they support and as such are totally blinkered.
People keep going on about legals call it whatever you want but Wasps will always try to protect themselves from anything that could cost them millions, now i have no idea if there is a case to answer by CCC as i like everyone else do not have all the information or the legal knowledge.
As Wasps can't seem to be able to get a stadium sponsor when 1 is finally sorted out due to CCFC being back at the stadium can we have all that money too?That might happen it might not and none of us know for sure how things will pan out, everyone can argue about who's fault the current situation is but that won't change anything so surely the best thing short term would be to sort out a deal, no deal is ever going to be perfect for either side but as a starting point i don't see why they can't agree a sensible rent with CCFC paying all match day cost and then keeping all match day profits.
As Wasps can't seem to be able to get a stadium sponsor when 1 is finally sorted out due to CCFC being back at the stadium can we have all that money too?
The forum is Stalinist - I’ve been banned four tunes now I think and my 5th incarnation is getting the dreaded Spam and complaints notification
Do you know what we are asking for or are being offered or just that it is a known sticking point?I’m sure that’s one of the points of dispute
Big difference between profitable and equitableFirstly congratulations on promotion i don't think there is anybody that can say it isn't deserved, secondly i think all parties need to take a deep breathe calm down a sort out a deal that is profitable for both parties.
I never had a ban G
That's easily sorted as we have done in BS3 with a Desso 4 pitch, like a bowling green every week for us and the Bears. The problem is the cost (I think it was £2M) would only add to your financial dilemma.Dont mind going back to ricoh, but somethings got to be done about the surface, cut up every week, id rather play on great pitch at st andrews
You are a non threat I guess
That's easily sorted as we have done in BS3 with a Desso 4 pitch, like a bowling green every week for us and the Bears. The problem is the cost (I think it was £2M) would only add to your financial dilemma.
Yes, your income will shoot up as you well know but do you spend that money on a return to the Ricoh? Do you spend that money on the team to consolidate / push on in the Championship or do you spend that money subsidising Birmingham and stay at St Andrews? Can you survive without spending it on the team?
I've no doubt your current players will be getting a hefty pay rise on promotion but your powers that be have a real problem in how best to spend that increased revenue.
FWIW, as an outsider, it seems ludicrous to have a great complex like the Ricoh lying empty most of the time and you playing in Birmingham. There must be a way for you to return which would, obviously, benefit CCFC with bigger crowds and associated incomes, plus give some benefit to whoever owns the stadium, without making it too difficult for you to go back? An example, the modernised Ashton gate is used every day, apart from Xmas day, bringing in serious money. What a waste if the Ricoh isn't doing at least the same.
Have no doubt, the Championship is a blinding division but it's really difficult nowadays. Like yourselves, we won L1 easily a few years ago but really found it hard after promotion.
It's a real dilemma and I wish you every success. Unfortunately, in the modern Championship, money generally wins.
Would love a nice pitch like that but as you say, who pays for it, we wont in someone elses ground, and the owner wont as they dont need it!That's easily sorted as we have done in BS3 with a Desso 4 pitch, like a bowling green every week for us and the Bears. The problem is the cost (I think it was £2M) would only add to your financial dilemma.
Yes, your income will shoot up as you well know but do you spend that money on a return to the Ricoh? Do you spend that money on the team to consolidate / push on in the Championship or do you spend that money subsidising Birmingham and stay at St Andrews? Can you survive without spending it on the team?
I've no doubt your current players will be getting a hefty pay rise on promotion but your powers that be have a real problem in how best to spend that increased revenue.
FWIW, as an outsider, it seems ludicrous to have a great complex like the Ricoh lying empty most of the time and you playing in Birmingham. There must be a way for you to return which would, obviously, benefit CCFC with bigger crowds and associated incomes, plus give some benefit to whoever owns the stadium, without making it too difficult for you to go back? An example, the modernised Ashton gate is used every day, apart from Xmas day, bringing in serious money. What a waste if the Ricoh isn't doing at least the same.
Have no doubt, the Championship is a blinding division but it's really difficult nowadays. Like yourselves, we won L1 easily a few years ago but really found it hard after promotion.
It's a real dilemma and I wish you every success. Unfortunately, in the modern Championship, money generally wins.
Not initially but we went for players we clearly had no chance of getting (Andre Grey, Dwight Gayle), we signed Jonathon Kodjia eventually, Once Johnson came in we spent a few bob on experienced loans to stay up but it was a close run thing and we would probably have gone back down with just our promotion side. Since then we seem to have sold an expensive one and bought promise although this year we seem to have spent slightly differently with the signing of Nahki Wells and possibly Benik Afobe. The redeveloped stadium and extremely wealthy owner has given us that opportunity. That's why it seems so daft to have a facility like the Ricoh, which has more than we have, standing dormant most of the time.Would love a nice pitch like that but as you say, who pays for it, we wont in someone elses ground, and the owner wont as they dont need it!
Hopefully there are some heads bashed together somewhere!
Appreciate your comments, i had a quick look and since your promotion you've finished 18th - 17th - 11th - 8th and now sit just outside the playoffs with every chance of making it. Whilst i appreciate money talks, that is consistent improvement and i would take that now if that's our next 4 seasons. Doesn't look like too much struggling from the outside anyway! How much did you strengthen in your first season? was it a mass overhaul?
We paid for a new pitch at Sixfields didn't we?we wont in someone elses ground
I dont know is the honest answer, but if we did, i doubt it was an all singing and all dancing one to cope with Rugby and Football.We paid for a new pitch at Sixfields didn't we?
Not initially but we went for players we clearly had no chance of getting (Andre Grey, Dwight Gayle), we signed Jonathon Kodjia eventually, Once Johnson came in we spent a few bob on experienced loans to stay up but it was a close run thing and we would probably have gone back down with just our promotion side. Since then we seem to have sold an expensive one and bought promise although this year we seem to have spent slightly differently with the signing of Nahki Wells and possibly Benik Afobe. The redeveloped stadium and extremely wealthy owner has given us that opportunity. That's why it seems so daft to have a facility like the Ricoh, which has more than we have, standing dormant most of the time.
I'd have no problem with the club contributing to a new pitch if it meant a decent playing surface. After all if we had our own ground we'd incur that cost but it would have to be reflected in the rent. Would also need to be some sort of agreement about what other events took place. No point us paying out for a pitch to then have Wasps hiring out the ground to someone else and the pitch being ruined.I dont know is the honest answer, but if we did, i doubt it was an all singing and all dancing one to cope with Rugby and Football.
Fair comment BSB. When the likes of Villa (eg) come down with £100m in their back pockets, it's an unfair advantage for all of us but makes it nigh on impossible for the promoted sides.Well this is the key difference, we don't have one and as long as the Ricoh is out of bounds we're very unlikely to attract one. If we finished 21st I'd consider that an excellent season just because we're likely to have the smallest or next to smallest budget in the league depending on who wins the L1 play offs. Would just be nice if we weren't constantly competing with some kind of in built disadvantage!
Fair comment BSB. When the likes of Villa (eg) come down with £100m in their back pockets, it's an unfair advantage for all of us but makes it nigh on impossible for the promoted sides.
You never know, you might do a 'Sheffield Utd' and shoot straight through but most, ourselves included, really found it hard post promotion.
It's a blinding league regardless and a very good standard now.
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