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The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (21 Viewers)

  • Thread starter jimmyhillsfanclub
  • Start date Jun 8, 2016
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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
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Ashdown

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #33,846
Deleted member 5849 said:
And not all foreign born either. Not that there's anything wrong with being foreign born, and pretty low to try and distinguish and differentiate anyway.
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It's not low, it's just trying to determine why the motives and loyalties.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #33,847
Deleted member 5849 said:
And not all foreign born either. Not that there's anything wrong with being foreign born, and pretty low to try and distinguish and differentiate anyway.
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Pretty low to point out that they don't have a vote so it is the only way they have a voice?

If you are not born here you don't have a choice on voting. Should someone get the right to vote after a certain amount of time here?

But I suppose it can also be used to make a point.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #33,848
Ashdown said:
It's not low, it's just trying to determine why the motives and loyalties.
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Living here for a long time, integrating, being a part of the community then finding out that your future is insecure would be a very good reason to me.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #33,849
Astute said:
Pretty low to point out that they don't have a vote so it is the only way they have a voice?

If you are not born here you don't have a choice on voting. Should someone get the right to vote after a certain amount of time here?

But I suppose it can also be used to make a point.
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People do get the right to vote after a number your years,if you’re foreign born you can vote once you have gained citzenship
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #33,850
Astute said:
Pretty low to point out that they don't have a vote so it is the only way they have a voice?

If you are not born here you don't have a choice on voting. Should someone get the right to vote after a certain amount of time here?

But I suppose it can also be used to make a point.
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In the case of being a British citizen who loses automatic rights in the EU, but is not allowed a vote, yes it does make a point.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #33,851
Astute said:
Living here for a long time, integrating, being a part of the community then finding out that your future is insecure would be a very good reason to me.
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Virtually everyone I as was British ( from accent or flag they were carrying ). I saw one young woman with a placard „frog against Brexit“. So there were a few EU citizens.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #33,852
Astute said:
Living here for a long time, integrating, being a part of the community then finding out that your future is insecure would be a very good reason to me.
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That's a very enlightened way of seeing things.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #33,853
Sick Boy said:
People do get the right to vote after a number your years,if you’re foreign born you can vote once you have gained citzenship
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Even before that you can vote in council elections, it’s just general elections and referendum you can’t vote on.
 
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Ashdown

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #33,854
Astute said:
Living here for a long time, integrating, being a part of the community then finding out that your future is insecure would be a very good reason to me.
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Sure I agree but no one has suggested anyone's future is insecure, not people who are settled and have been for a while.
 
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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #33,855
Dont panic! We have it covered..."Uri Geller urges mass-telepathy against Brexit" - Uri Geller urges mass-telepathy against Brexit | Reuters

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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #33,856
Ashdown said:
Sure I agree but no one has suggested anyone's future is insecure, not people who are settled and have been for a while.
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Yeah because it worked out so smoothly for the windrush generation
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #33,857
Sick Boy said:
People do get the right to vote after a number your years,if you’re foreign born you can vote once you have gained citzenship
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I think but am not certain that Eu citizens can only vote in local not national though
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #33,858
Ashdown said:
Sure I agree but no one has suggested anyone's future is insecure, not people who are settled and have been for a while.
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Really? This is news. I am in the same situation, but am on the safe side now. There probably won’t be a problem, but who can be sure?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #33,859
Great to see the anti Brexit petition now has over 5,000,000, the no deal headcases have managed 500,000.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 24, 2019
  • #33,860
Sick Boy said:
Great to see the anti Brexit petition now has over 5,000,000, the no deal headcases have managed 500,000.
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You can vote several times for it - it’s about as useful as a poll on here
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2019
  • #33,861
Grendel said:
You can vote several times for it - it’s about as useful as a poll on here
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ORLY?

FactCheck: is the “stop Brexit” petition reliable?
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2019
  • #33,862
Ashdown said:
Sure I agree but no one has suggested anyone's future is insecure, not people who are settled and have been for a while.
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The problem with Brexit is eveyones future is insecure. Your job May be insecure. You might have plans to travel around Europe. You might have plans to move to another EU country. The list is endless. And all it takes is a big disagreement for the right to continue to live somewhere to be in jeopardy. New rules could be applied.
 
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martcov

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  • Mar 25, 2019
  • #33,863
Grendel said:
You can vote several times for it - it’s about as useful as a poll on here
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Funny that is only the case with this petition. Do you not think that there are people controlling it? Or people working overtime to remove multiple votes? Even allowing for some still getting through, this is the by far the biggest petition ever. The march was the biggest demonstration ever.

But, you can say that everyone thinks that Brexit is a great idea if you want. If it makes you feel better.

A better idea would be to call a new referendum. Then we could put the question to bed.

Any news on the Brexit Betrayal march? Are they still there?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 25, 2019
  • #33,864
Is it a march off now? How long until it is sorted with a dance battle?

 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2019
  • #33,865
I think the PV team are bringing a Waitrose-based focus group to represent them.
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2019
  • #33,866
Sick Boy said:
Great to see the anti Brexit petition now has over 5,000,000, the no deal headcases have managed 500,000.
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Might be headcases but still the majority compared to the remoaners
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 25, 2019
  • #33,867
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Might be headcases but still the majority compared to the remoaners
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Project Fear m8
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 25, 2019
  • #33,868
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Might be headcases but still the majority compared to the remoaners
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A majority want a no deal, based on what?
 
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Ashdown

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  • Mar 25, 2019
  • #33,869
'Historic day' - French-German parliament meets
And they wonder why there is scepticism about the EU !! They want our contribution in cash, nothing else !
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Mar 25, 2019
  • #33,870
Ashdown said:
'Historic day' - French-German parliament meets
And they wonder why there is scepticism about the EU !! They want our contribution in cash, nothing else !
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Thats the EU for ya!
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2019
  • #33,871
Treason May has to resign, she's an national embarrassment
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2019
  • #33,872
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Might be headcases but still the majority compared to the remoaners
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Er no. 5m is bigger than 0,5m.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2019
  • #33,873
Ashdown said:
'Historic day' - French-German parliament meets
And they wonder why there is scepticism about the EU !! They want our contribution in cash, nothing else !
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„The joint parliament will not be legally binding on the national parliaments of either country though“.
 
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martcov

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  • Mar 25, 2019
  • #33,874
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Thats the EU for ya!
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Yes, neighbours working together to solve problems. Terrible.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 25, 2019
  • #33,875
martcov said:
Yes, neighbours working together to solve problems. Terrible.
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That's when good neighbours become good friends.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 25, 2019
  • #33,876
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Might be headcases but still the majority compared to the remoaners
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Why would ten times as many people sign the Remain petition then? And 100,000 times more people march?

Stick your head in the sand all you like but all signs point to there being no majority for Brexit among the public any more. Just a hardcore of ideologues and posh bloke fanciers still clinging on.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2019
  • #33,877
shmmeee said:
Why would ten times as many people sign the Remain petition then? And 100,000 times more people march?

Stick your head in the sand all you like but all signs point to there being no majority for Brexit among the public any more. Just a hardcore of ideologues and posh bloke fanciers still clinging on.
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16 million people got off their arse and went to the polling station to vote remain. Only 5 million have signed a petition online which requires a couple of clicks. I dare say many of those are also not genuine voters, and I'm sure many others have voted more online here more than once.

There is absolutely zero indication that the public have changed their mind. This is just sadly more desperation.
 
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Astute

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  • Mar 25, 2019
  • #33,878
shmmeee said:
Why would ten times as many people sign the Remain petition then? And 100,000 times more people march?

Stick your head in the sand all you like but all signs point to there being no majority for Brexit among the public any more. Just a hardcore of ideologues and posh bloke fanciers still clinging on.
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But this is the point that gets denied.

There is no reason for those who voted leave to march. There is no reason for those who voted leave to protest. There is no reason for those who voted leave to sign a petition. But if Brexit doesn't happen then it will be a different matter.

They would then be in a similar position as remain voters. They wouldn't be getting what they wanted. And some would be even more vexed as they actually won the referendum and expected Brexit. And the sham from May has left them expecting to happen.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 25, 2019
  • #33,879
All of those posts about how easy Brexit would be and how the UK held the upper hand in negotiations seem to have disappeared
 
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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2019
  • #33,880
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
16 million people got off their arse and went to the polling station to vote remain. Only 5 million have signed a petition online which requires a couple of clicks. I dare say many of those are also not genuine voters, and I'm sure many others have voted more online here more than once.

There is absolutely zero indication that the public have changed their mind. This is just sadly more desperation.
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I reckon Martobsessed has been signing it constantly for 3 days now.
 
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