The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

Discussion in 'Off Topic Chat' started by jimmyhillsfanclub, Jun 8, 2016.

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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
  1. Remain

    23 vote(s)
    37.1%
  2. Leave

    35 vote(s)
    56.5%
  3. Undecided

    3 vote(s)
    4.8%
  4. Not registered or not intention to vote

    1 vote(s)
    1.6%
  1. Ashdown

    Ashdown Well-Known Member

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    It's not low, it's just trying to determine why the motives and loyalties.
     
  2. Astute

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    Pretty low to point out that they don't have a vote so it is the only way they have a voice?

    If you are not born here you don't have a choice on voting. Should someone get the right to vote after a certain amount of time here?

    But I suppose it can also be used to make a point.
     
  3. Astute

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    Living here for a long time, integrating, being a part of the community then finding out that your future is insecure would be a very good reason to me.
     
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    People do get the right to vote after a number your years,if you’re foreign born you can vote once you have gained citzenship
     
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    In the case of being a British citizen who loses automatic rights in the EU, but is not allowed a vote, yes it does make a point.
     
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    Virtually everyone I as was British ( from accent or flag they were carrying ). I saw one young woman with a placard „frog against Brexit“. So there were a few EU citizens.
     
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    That's a very enlightened way of seeing things.
     
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    Even before that you can vote in council elections, it’s just general elections and referendum you can’t vote on.
     
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    Sure I agree but no one has suggested anyone's future is insecure, not people who are settled and have been for a while.
     
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    Yeah because it worked out so smoothly for the windrush generation
     
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    I think but am not certain that Eu citizens can only vote in local not national though
     
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    Really? This is news. I am in the same situation, but am on the safe side now. There probably won’t be a problem, but who can be sure?
     
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    Great to see the anti Brexit petition now has over 5,000,000, the no deal headcases have managed 500,000.
     
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    You can vote several times for it - it’s about as useful as a poll on here
     
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    The problem with Brexit is eveyones future is insecure. Your job May be insecure. You might have plans to travel around Europe. You might have plans to move to another EU country. The list is endless. And all it takes is a big disagreement for the right to continue to live somewhere to be in jeopardy. New rules could be applied.
     
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    Funny that is only the case with this petition. Do you not think that there are people controlling it? Or people working overtime to remove multiple votes? Even allowing for some still getting through, this is the by far the biggest petition ever. The march was the biggest demonstration ever.

    But, you can say that everyone thinks that Brexit is a great idea if you want. If it makes you feel better.

    A better idea would be to call a new referendum. Then we could put the question to bed.

    Any news on the Brexit Betrayal march? Are they still there?
     
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    Is it a march off now? How long until it is sorted with a dance battle?

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    I think the PV team are bringing a Waitrose-based focus group to represent them.
     
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    Might be headcases but still the majority compared to the remoaners
     
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    Project Fear m8
     
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    A majority want a no deal, based on what?
     
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    Treason May has to resign, she's an national embarrassment
     
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    Er no. 5m is bigger than 0,5m.
     
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    „The joint parliament will not be legally binding on the national parliaments of either country though“.
     
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    Yes, neighbours working together to solve problems. Terrible.
     
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    That's when good neighbours become good friends.
     
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    Why would ten times as many people sign the Remain petition then? And 100,000 times more people march?

    Stick your head in the sand all you like but all signs point to there being no majority for Brexit among the public any more. Just a hardcore of ideologues and posh bloke fanciers still clinging on.
     
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    16 million people got off their arse and went to the polling station to vote remain. Only 5 million have signed a petition online which requires a couple of clicks. I dare say many of those are also not genuine voters, and I'm sure many others have voted more online here more than once.

    There is absolutely zero indication that the public have changed their mind. This is just sadly more desperation.
     
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    But this is the point that gets denied.

    There is no reason for those who voted leave to march. There is no reason for those who voted leave to protest. There is no reason for those who voted leave to sign a petition. But if Brexit doesn't happen then it will be a different matter.

    They would then be in a similar position as remain voters. They wouldn't be getting what they wanted. And some would be even more vexed as they actually won the referendum and expected Brexit. And the sham from May has left them expecting to happen.
     
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    All of those posts about how easy Brexit would be and how the UK held the upper hand in negotiations seem to have disappeared ;)
     
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    I reckon Martobsessed has been signing it constantly for 3 days now.
     

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