Where is the German car industry when you need it?
To be fair you also said that the UK would be able to dictate terms due to buying wine and cheese
The only outcome I can see now is an extension of article 50 and a general election....and probably another hung parliament
Are you saying that the German car industry won't suffer with a bad Brexit? If not what are you trying to say.Where is the German car industry when you need it?
Are you saying that the German car industry won't suffer with a bad Brexit? If not what are you trying to say.
Remember when you tried to blame all JLR problems on Brexit?
Fucking hell Mart, you really are excited at the prospect of anything bad for the UK. Your attitude is so transparent that you want the UK punished !......They used to have a word for your sort and it didn't go well for them. In the meantime you'll be delighted that the Establishment are fixing it that Brexit won't happen, still everything's rosy in the garden innit ......if you're in the London clique !
Fucking hell Mart, you really are excited at the prospect of anything bad for the UK. Your attitude is so transparent that you want the UK punished !......They used to have a word for your sort and it didn't go well for them. In the meantime you'll be delighted that the Establishment are fixing it that Brexit won't happen, still everything's rosy in the garden innit ......if you're in the London clique !
As long as we stay in (& keep feeding) the EU, he really doesn't care the damage it does to the UK in any way whatsoever.Fucking hell Mart, you really are excited at the prospect of anything bad for the UK. Your attitude is so transparent that you want the UK punished !......They used to have a word for your sort and it didn't go well for them. In the meantime you'll be delighted that the Establishment are fixing it that Brexit won't happen, still everything's rosy in the garden innit ......if you're in the London clique !
As long as we stay in (& keep feeding) the EU, he really doesn't care the damage it does to the UK in any way whatsoever.
Future elections & referenda might yield only 10% turnout...but as l9ng as we tow the EU line all will be well/shit depend8ng on your stance
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Here we go again..."EU says no more Brexit talks with UK, risk of no-deal increased" - EU says no more Brexit talks with UK, risk of no-deal increased | Reuters
Does that mean JC is less keen on an election? Obviously his idea of a deal is a com0lete non-starter If they will not renegotiate. If true it basically means we must leave without a deal...because the one they offer/agree has now in effect been rejected twice.
Imo...someone will blink before 29th March
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Sorry the football game took all my attention so I don't know what you are going on aboutGood result tonight.
Now they are not going to influence a referendum, so maybe this time their assesment is more realistic. Apropos experts, I see JLR are introducing a three day week for a short time. No doubt nothing whatsoever to do with Brexit. More Brexit bluster, and strategic scaremongering.
Then you went quiet on your blaming of Brexit.I've got to be honest Mart. I work in the JLR supply chain and I fully expect it to collapse next year if we don't get a deal.
But I can't see how they can blame the current situation on Brexit.
The two diesel saloons they bought out in 2015 have been a disaster and there have been several poor strategic decisions.
As long as we stay in (& keep feeding) the EU, he really doesn't care the damage it does to the UK in any way whatsoever.
Future elections & referenda might yield only 10% turnout...but as l9ng as we tow the EU line all will be well/shit depend8ng on your stance
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Yes truthful Mart.
Then you went quiet on your blaming of Brexit.
I'm not sure what you're on about? Are you suggesting that because I haven't attributed the JLR problems to Brexit, (which I don't), that I don't or shouldn't attribute any problems to it?
He’s trying to get at me, but somehow brought you into it. You were correcting me in the quote. Which I didn’t dispute, just I think Brexit is one of several factors and not completely off the hook.
He didn’t quote my answer to your post for some reason.
I think I misunderstood Astutes post Mart, which is why I deleted my reply. Thought it was aimed at me.
Must be a bit light headed after last nights excitement at the Ricoh!
I didn’t blame everything on Brexit. I don’t accept that it has nothing to do with Brexit.
There is more than one factor. One is over capacity in the motor industry. Another is the problem with diesel. Another is the preparation for electric cars and how soon that will happen. Electric car manufacturing should need less staff.
Then we have the uncertainty caused by Brexit. This means laying out money to provide for a no deal scenario.
I was pointing out that to put Speth‘s assessments down to Brexit bluster doesn’t get Brexit off the hook.
Twisting a sarcastic post to fit your argument.
I don’t believe I have been quiet on blaming Brexit for the mess we are in.
They need to hurry up and get on with it, clowns in parliament are trying to crash what the majority voted for
Traitors
Maybe having a remainer in charge of the negotiations didn't help things...
It would have been the same result. 27 countries are not going to follow the demands of one country that is leaving. That was always clear.
So why should we continue to follow the EU's demands?
Fucking hell Mart, you really are excited at the prospect of anything bad for the UK. Your attitude is so transparent that you want the UK punished !......They used to have a word for your sort and it didn't go well for them. In the meantime you'll be delighted that the Establishment are fixing it that Brexit won't happen, still everything's rosy in the garden innit ......if you're in the London clique !
Maybe having a remainer in charge of the negotiations didn't help things...
Shame all the leavers didn't have the courage of their convictions and weren't interested in leading the process.Maybe having a remainer in charge of the negotiations didn't help things...
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This is a problem. The EEC has mutated from a free trade organisation into the EU. The EU is not what people signed up to.What demands? Do you mean consenting to follow the regulatory 9system which increases our home market to 500 Million people? Bigger than the USA and being the largest trading block in the world? Setting minimum standards for workers, environment and hygiene? I would have thought that was self explanatory. What is harder to understand is why give that up based upon predictions from people like Farage, Banks and Rees Mogg, all of whom will do well out of Brexit, whereas thousands of less wealthy people will be worse off. It is a conundrum.
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