I didn’t you said sky wizard my friend
You list Allah and then ask why Catholic God exists when Allah doesn’t. You should probably learn some basics before asking such a question. Separating Allah from god tells me that you don’t understand that Islam and Christianity both celebrate the same god. As does Judaism.
Catholic God acts differently to Allah who acts differently to Yahwe. Also neat of you to dodge the main subject ie why do these beings exist when the thousands of others don’t.
It’s your opinion, respect and be respected. Refering to sky wizards is a way of disagreeing that belittles the other persons opinion. That’s allWhat’s arrogant about that? Too many to count have lost their lives in the name of fictional beings and books written in the desert for thousands of years. Only in recent times has criticism of religion been accepted.
Who says they don’t? To people of faith they exist. I’m an atheist myself. Just don’t se that gives me the right to tell someone of faith that they don’t. I guess the clue is the word faith.
It’s your opinion, respect and be respected. Refering to sky wizards is a way of disagreeing that belittles the other persons opinion. That’s all
Would Jesus be a 'leave means leave', or a remainer?
One nation of Islam?Think he’d be a no borders one nation kind of dude
One nation of Islam?
So.The opinions aren’t equal.
Been having this conversation with our vicar. He thinks It’s a red herring and it’s by focusing on reconciliation and unity we will chart a course with whatever decisions are taken that we can’t change. Pretty sure he’d be all for a human answear and a-politicalWould Jesus be a 'leave means leave', or a remainer?
AgreedThink he’d be a no borders one nation kind of dude
Been having this conversation with our vicar. He thinks It’s a red herring and it’s by focusing on reconciliation and unity we will chart a course with whatever decisions are taken that we can’t change. Pretty sure he’d be all for a human answear and a-political
Who says they don’t? To people of faith they exist. I’m an atheist myself. Just don’t see that gives me the right to tell someone of faith that they don’t. I guess the clue is the word faith.
Ok. Myth is a good word. Myth is a story to tell a universal truth much like many of the major world religions creation stories. I’d hope if we were friends you could respect my life and Christian beliefs in the same way I respect you and your beliefs in random events affecting life and living well being a consequence of where you were born, your family and friends beliefs , the country you were born in and the age in history and your choices and abilities to work hard and persevere. I believe that Jesus was a real living person and that there is order in this chaos through god. I also believe that a life lived well in community and charity with those around us is possible with or without faith and should be applauded and loved. We are so much better as a people together than apart.So I don’t lend respect to opinions which don’t deserve it. The idea of supernatural beings allowed people of the past to explain what they couldn’t and to control society. It has always been man made and immeasurable numbers of people have suffered for thousands of years to please something which isn’t real.
Prayers don’t save lives. Hoping for things to happen doesn’t make them so. Call me a cynic, and I am, but I can’t respect those who peddle a myth.
Ok. Myth is a good word. Myth is a story to tell a universal truth much like many of the major world religions creation stories. I’d hope if we were friends you could respect my life and Christian beliefs in the same way I respect you and your beliefs in random events affecting life and living well being a consequence of where you were born, your family and friends beliefs , the country you were born in and the age in history and your choices and abilities to work hard and persevere. I believe that Jesus was a real living person and that there is order in this chaos through god. I also believe that a life lived well in community and charity with those around us is possible with or without faith and should be applauded and loved. We are so much better as a people together than apart.
Was just about to say the same. Sorry to hijack the Eu thread. Bless youThink this has run its course. For what it’s worth I do think that Jesus was real but not a son of a deity.
I have no issue with those who practice religion without putting themselves on pedestals or using it to dictate to others how they should live. There are still parts of the world where refusing to believe in a fictional being costs you your life. We need to stop clinging to ancient books written by socially conservative men.
And convinced them of things like "Idle hands do the devils work" to scare them into working long & hardChristianity had a fundamental purpose at its peak to force workers into deprivation and slavery to the landowners on the pretence of a better life on the other side. The people on this side doing the preaching oddly already had a good life
What actual evidence do you have of this God thing/person other than people talking?You list Allah and then ask why Catholic God exists when Allah doesn’t. You should probably learn some basics before asking such a question. Separating Allah from god tells me that you don’t understand that Islam and Christianity both celebrate the same god. As does Judaism.
Well, given that he came then left then returned but then left again...he would obviously have waivered. He seems to have left good & proper, for now at least, thoughWould Jesus be a 'leave means leave', or a remainer?
Back down to earth the news I prematurely reported a few days ago is happening. Labour split.
Seven MPs leave Labour Party
'Ms Berger said Labour had become institutionally anti-Semitic and she was "embarrassed and ashamed" to stay.'
Institutionally anti-Semitic?
So she'll form a party with a load of others formerly of same institution. It'll be interesting to see how she polls when not parachuted into a safe Labour seat as she was.
The language they used was very strong and some serious accusations. They must have evidence to back it up.
The labour party are in a right mess. Given the total farce the Tories are making with Brexit, he's still below May in the polls.
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Back down to earth the news I prematurely reported a few days ago is happening. Labour split.
Seven MPs leave Labour Party
7 MPs is hardly ‘a split’. Is anyone surprised a left wing party is eating itself up?
And shows the difference between Labour and Tories. Whatever the Tory differences, they stay together and fight as a unit - even Brexit hasn't split them (yet!). The centre - left of this country is so busy fighting itself, they destroy all hope of fighting effectively the Tories!Back down to earth the news I prematurely reported a few days ago is happening. Labour split.
Seven MPs leave Labour Party
And shows the difference between Labour and Tories. Whatever the Tory differences, they stay together and fight as a unit - even Brexit hasn't split them (yet!). The centre - left of this country is so busy fighting itself, they destroy all hope of fighting effectively the Tories!
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