You are as much a remainer as May. You voted remain as she did and you are now unbiased. May is trying her best to polish a turd.
She has been playing for time. And she has done very well out of running the clock down.
Remember one thing. This so called deal that isn't really a deal was set by the EU. Brexit won't be happening at the set date. None of us have a clue what she is playing at. She is a remainer. It has made Corbyn become a remainer. It doesn't look good on someone who always wanted out of the EU.
As I have been saying for ages I can't see us leaving the EU. Having a deal like Norway is worse than staying in the EU. Same rules more or less but no say. Trade deals elsewhere yes. But that comes with border checks. This doesn't remove the problem with Ireland.
May hasn't been saying she wants another referendum. Corbyn knows it would alienate a lot of voters. As I keep saying lots of twists and turns to come.
So Brexit won't happen on the date. But there isn't a lot to make the date get expanded. Another GE? The Tories will win a vote of no confidence. Another referendum? It is getting more of a possibility. But who holds enough power is brave enough to call one? It could be left to a debate where nobody can be seen to be to blame. And the majority of MP's have always been in favour of staying in the EU.
This could be fun.
Why listen to an expert though?
Despite the general opinion we will be a lot worse off under a no deal scenario?
I wonder what would have happened if the campaign for the referendum had been based on a no deal at all scenario. Surely the vote would have been to remain, because you would have MP after MP and party after party and business leader after business leader and financial expert after financial expert pretty much all saying that a no deal scenario outcome would be very bad and damaging to the country and to the economy.
Maybe that should have been on the ballot paper
She has been playing for time. And she has done very well out of running the clock down.
Remember one thing. This so called deal that isn't really a deal was set by the EU. Brexit won't be happening at the set date. None of us have a clue what she is playing at. She is a remainer. It has made Corbyn become a remainer. It doesn't look good on someone who always wanted out of the EU.
As I have been saying for ages I can't see us leaving the EU. Having a deal like Norway is worse than staying in the EU. Same rules more or less but no say. Trade deals elsewhere yes. But that comes with border checks. This doesn't remove the problem with Ireland.
May hasn't been saying she wants another referendum. Corbyn knows it would alienate a lot of voters. As I keep saying lots of twists and turns to come.
So Brexit won't happen on the date. But there isn't a lot to make the date get expanded. Another GE? The Tories will win a vote of no confidence. Another referendum? It is getting more of a possibility. But who holds enough power is brave enough to call one? It could be left to a debate where nobody can be seen to be to blame. And the majority of MP's have always been in favour of staying in the EU.
This could be fun.
Centre left is where a majority of the country are ian. Corbyn will never win a majority I’m afraid. It’s auch a shame but we need to face historical facts
I think the country overall is slightly centre right.
Labour are a chasm away from winning a GE. Analysis shows they need a poll lead of at least 10% to win an election, at best they are level. Polls also show that support for labour would drop further if Corbyn backs brexit in their manifesto rather than call for a 2nd referendum.
If there is a GE the chances are the numbers will be fairly close to what we have currently. I don't see how a GE solves the brexit problem.
Why is it I show you links that show that you are wrong and the next day or two you say the same thing again?Why would the EEA mean border/checks a hard border? The UK would be in the single market and therefore not lowering standards to cater for the likes of the USA, therefore it’d be a hell of a lot more straightforward
Why would the EEA mean border/checks a hard border? The UK would be in the single market and therefore not lowering standards to cater for the likes of the USA, therefore it’d be a hell of a lot more straightforward
Labour's own manifesto is surprisingly right-leaning - Corbyn proposes lower corporate tax rates and lower income tax rates than those of the Thatcher years, for instance. To call his policies far left and to keep harping on about how he wants Communism for Britain is to have uncritically bought into the media's narratives, I'm sorry to say. And that applies to the majority of the general public.
Why is it I show you links that show that you are wrong and the next day or two you say the same thing again?
You said a good thing about EEA is that we can make our own trade deals. But if we can make our own trade deals they will not have been through EU customs. So there will need to be checks. We still would have a problem with Ireland.
Lessons from Norway-Sweden border for post-Brexit Britain
Reality Check: How open are EU borders for trade?
I see your puppy dog agreed with you. Is he clueless or just wants to pat you on the back constantly knowing that you are wrong?
Think that’s the point though cause if you thought that’s what you were voting for you were wrongPalimentarians have united in hijacking the result of the referendum. Leave means leave. I did not anticipate making deals and having terms laid down by thebrussels eliete telling us what we can and can't do. Just bloody leave. Stand tall as a country. We are more than big enough and will be very successful on our own. The EU is not the prize it was dreamt up to be and never will be. They want a federal state with one currency, one army, one government. The UK will disappear as will France, Germany etc. Edward Heath was the instigator and traitor to our country signing us away back in the 70's and keeping the real reasons and future plans from the public.
Paxman thinks it wasDespite the general opinion we will be a lot worse off under a no deal scenario?
I wonder what would have happened if the campaign for the referendum had been based on a no deal at all scenario. Surely the vote would have been to remain, because you would have MP after MP and party after party and business leader after business leader and financial expert after financial expert pretty much all saying that a no deal scenario outcome would be very bad and damaging to the country and to the economy.
Maybe that should have been on the ballot paper
Some do especially GoveYes experts always get it wrong. But .. the people who say that go to a doctor when they are ill, they don’t ask the opinion of some loud mouth in the pub. They only do that when it is the future of the UK.
It does as numerous agreements with Eu mean certain companies don’t complete vat returns who now will need to. We are getting ready for huge increase in customs work and we just don’t have the staff or knowledge to enable things to work. We’ll do our best and work our bollox off but fundamentally the ministers and brexiteers just want to talk easy technological solutions and don’t listen to senseYour first link is about an issue that already exists in the U.K. Do you think that every container unloaded at port gets unpacked and checked by customs. Every container we’ve ever received at work still has the custom seals from destination intact having never been opened since it was closed in Asia. Only once have we ever had anything pulled and that was part of a mix load container where customs had a tip off that one of the consignments was counterfeit cigarettes destined for the U.K. black market.
Yes the Irish border will have some customs checks but from the perspective of the GFA is free movement of people and the right to work either side of the border. There’s always been a black market either side of the border, not as big as it was during the troubles or before but it’s always been there. Leaving the EU and joining the EEA isn’t going to add a new problem.
Wunderbar!
It does as numerous agreements with Eu mean certain companies don’t complete vat returns who now will need to. We are getting ready for huge increase in customs work and we just don’t have the staff or knowledge to enable things to work. We’ll do our best and work our bollox off but fundamentally the ministers and brexiteers just want to talk easy technological solutions and don’t listen to sense
The answer is yes that’s exactly right that there will be a potential vat payment and it’s hundreds and thousands of companies affected.We’re in a similar situation. Biggest problem is no one knows what to prepare for. We have one contract with an Irish client which is proof testing certain equipment. We arrange collection, it comes to us in the U.K., we test it and send it back with a pass or fail. The only thing we invoice is the service, the goods are never our property so there is no invoice either way for the value of the goods and the invoice for the services is VAT free because we’re invoicing another EU country.
We don’t know if the goods are going to have to be sent and returned with monetary value for custom purposes, if it does will we have to pay VAT on entry into the U.K., will our client have to pay VAT on entry back into Ireland, will we pay duty on goods we don’t own own and never will on entry to the U.K., will the client pay duty on goods they already own on entry back into Ireland? All questions we’ve posed to the DTI, U.K. customs, chamber of commerce and various shipping companies that move the goods for us at various times over the last couple of years and not one can give us any definitive answer and most times the answer is a shrug of the shoulders. Yet we’re supposed to be leaving in 2 months.
The answer is yes that’s exactly right that there will be a potential vat payment and it’s hundreds and thousands of companies affected.
Fake news and project fear of course
On the contrary actually, Labour will lose more seats if they back a 2nd referendum due to the geographical nature of Labour voters and their remain/leave preferences.
That's why their stance has been like it is. Their northern strongholds are at risk as they ALL voted leave, and backing a 2nd referendum vote will just tell that already disillusioned electorate that London choices and voices are more important than theirs.
We’re in a similar situation. Biggest problem is no one knows what to prepare for. We have one contract with an Irish client which is proof testing certain equipment. We arrange collection, it comes to us in the U.K., we test it and send it back with a pass or fail. The only thing we invoice is the service, the goods are never our property so there is no invoice either way for the value of the goods and the invoice for the services is VAT free because we’re invoicing another EU country.
We don’t know if the goods are going to have to be sent and returned with monetary value for custom purposes, if it does will we have to pay VAT on entry into the U.K., will our client have to pay VAT on entry back into Ireland, will we pay duty on goods we don’t own own and never will on entry to the U.K., will the client pay duty on goods they already own on entry back into Ireland? All questions we’ve posed to the DTI, U.K. customs, chamber of commerce and various shipping companies that move the goods for us at various times over the last couple of years and not one can give us any definitive answer and most times the answer is a shrug of the shoulders. Yet we’re supposed to be leaving in 2 months.
Intetesting, the support dropping for labour if they support brexit i got from here
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&s...gQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw1BGLKOT1yEP4joM4gmqtNJ&cf=1
And yet we’ve still got politicians fucking about, labour politicising the matter, tories split (hard line brexiteers still believing a no deal is likely) etc etc.
GE = further delays, no likely certainty this year.
Second referendum = further delays, no likely certainty until summer/autumn this year (if Remain wins) and unlikely to be until next year if Leave wins as further negotiations will be required.
All this time investment is withheld and limited other government policy making. As I mentioned before a lot of MPs need to take a long, hard look at themselves. Most of the country just want this done with
Reuters just phoned and want to do a TV interview with me in Berlin about Brexit. See what happens. I am not there til tonight. Probably tomorrow or Friday.
Reading between the lines at PMQs there seems to be some possibility of a customs union becoming part of the leave arrangement
Reading between the lines at PMQs there seems to be some possibility of a customs union becoming part of the leave arrangement
Reuters just phoned and want to do a TV interview with me in Berlin about Brexit. See what happens. I am not there til tonight. Probably tomorrow or Friday.
Labour's own manifesto is surprisingly right-leaning - Corbyn proposes lower corporate tax rates and lower income tax rates than those of the Thatcher years, for instance. To call his policies far left and to keep harping on about how he wants Communism for Britain is to have uncritically bought into the media's narratives, I'm sorry to say. And that applies to the majority of the general public.
Wow, very, very impressive. Balanced view I bet.Reuters just phoned and want to do a TV interview with me in Berlin about Brexit. See what happens. I am not there til tonight. Probably tomorrow or Friday.
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