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The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (8 Viewers)

  • Thread starter jimmyhillsfanclub
  • Start date Jun 8, 2016
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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
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martcov

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  • Jul 18, 2018
  • #17,011
skybluetony176 said:
Grendull says friend, I’m guessing he meant therapist.
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Yes that was my vision of Grendel. Showing your posts at the therapy session. Probably about anger management, or maybe a dementia test.
 

dutchman

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2018
  • #17,012
martcov said:
The richest men in America backed Trump..., and Bannon
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Who? Jesse Eisenberg? Jeff Bezos? Bill Gates? George Soros? Warren Buffet? All rabid Democrat Party supporters.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2018
  • #17,013
Grendel said:
Ah so an opinion without fact then
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Tommy is quoted as being grateful for the time inside ( I thought he was supposed to be murdered inside by Muslims ... apparently not ) which allows him to write a book. Now what did the other guy who was against one religion call his book? Maybe he could use the same title for his fans... I know... „My Struggle“. Sounds great, Tommy fighting against the liberal democratic state for freedom and to save the White Christian race from those Middle Eastern peoples who want to destroy it. Been done before, but a good cover version would be a best seller.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2018
  • #17,014
dutchman said:
Who? Jesse Eisenberg? Jeff Bezos? Bill Gates? George Soros? Warren Buffet? All rabid Democrat Party supporters.
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What/ who do they donate money for? Imprisoned fascists, racists, or people trying to destroy international institutions and turn people against each other?

Now look at this list:

http://fortune.com
 
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martcov

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  • Jul 18, 2018
  • #17,015
Grendel said:
So find a media outlet that stated this as fact as opposed to a claim can you?
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Tony beat me to it. As I said, send them a donation... if it comes back, then you know it’s not a fact...
 

Westendlad

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2018
  • #17,016
martcov said:
Apparently... that’s what has been reported. Tommy is writing a book whilst he is inside..... following in the footsteps of someone else who made a career attacking people of one religion.
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'Apparently'......Right ok.
 
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martcov

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  • Jul 18, 2018
  • #17,017
Westendlad said:
'Apparently'......Right ok.
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Check out their site. Tony posted the link. You can even said a donation.
 

dutchman

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  • Jul 18, 2018
  • #17,018
martcov said:
What/ who do they donate money for? Imprisoned fascists, racists, or people trying to destroy international institutions and turn people against each other?

Now look at this list:

http://fortune.com
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From the very same source...

Here Are the Billionaires Backing Hillary Clinton
 

Westendlad

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2018
  • #17,019
martcov said:
Tommy is quoted as being grateful for the time inside ( I thought he was supposed to be murdered inside by Muslims ... apparently not ) which allows him to write a book. Now what did the other guy who was against one religion call his book? Maybe he could use the same title for his fans... I know... „My Struggle“. Sounds great, Tommy fighting against the liberal democratic state for freedom and to save the White Christian race from those Middle Eastern peoples who want to destroy it. Been done before, but a good cover version would be a best seller.
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Quoted by whom ?
 

Westendlad

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  • Jul 18, 2018
  • #17,020
martcov said:
Check out their site. Tony posted the link. You can even said a donation.
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What site ?
 

Westendlad

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  • Jul 18, 2018
  • #17,021
mef ? Are you taking the piss ?
 
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martcov

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  • Jul 18, 2018
  • #17,022
Westendlad said:
Quoted by whom ?
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By the press. But you need more proof. Maybe check his Twitter account..
 
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martcov

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  • Jul 18, 2018
  • #17,023
Westendlad said:
mef ? Are you taking the piss ?
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No. Why? Not enough proof? They say they are.
 

Westendlad

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  • Jul 18, 2018
  • #17,024
martcov said:
By the press. But you need more proof. Maybe check his Twitter account..
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The same press who slaughter him to sell their papers ?
 

Westendlad

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  • Jul 18, 2018
  • #17,025
Tommy's case has been adjourned until the end of the month and another media ban today at court.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2018
  • #17,026
Westendlad said:
The same press who slaughter him to sell their papers ?
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Sorry. Twitter has banned him for life.

This is a quote, allegedly from him:

@But he did not seem overly concerned about incarceration in a letter written from prison last month, which said he was using the time to write a new book.


“I’d like to thank Her Majesty for giving me the time alone on my own to work on it,” Robinson wrote.

“I sit here happy, happy that this sentence has backfired on the establishment.”

It called for a “moment to change the direction of our nation” and furthered the myth of an “Islamic takeover” in Britain and thanked supporters for donations via Robinson’s website that are said to be going towards legal costs.

Citing support from Mr Wilders and Mr Trump, the letter continued: “I’d have done six months just for that recognition.”“
 
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martcov

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  • Jul 18, 2018
  • #17,027
Westendlad said:
The same press who slaughter him to sell their papers ?
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The same press who keep him in the news and publish things he says and does.
 
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martcov

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  • Jul 18, 2018
  • #17,028
Westendlad said:
Tommy's case has been adjourned until the end of the month and another media ban today at court.
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He is not denying that he is guilty. He has admitted guilt, but is opposed to the length of his sentence. Allegedly.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jul 18, 2018
  • #17,029
Westendlad said:
The same press who slaughter him to sell their papers ?
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I’m sure Tommy doesn’t mind. As long as someone is paying him attention. That’s all that matters to him.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 18, 2018
  • #17,030
skybluetony176 said:
I’m sure Tommy doesn’t mind. As long as someone is paying him attention. That’s all that matters to him.
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You and mad Mart seem to be giving him more attention on here than anyone else. How many times would any right wing extremist be mentioned on here without Mad Mart?
 
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martcov

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  • Jul 18, 2018
  • #17,031
Grendel said:
You and mad Mart seem to be giving him more attention on here than anyone else. How many times would any right wing extremist be mentioned on here without Mad Mart?
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Their lies get spouted on here a lot. Anyway any thoughts on Bannon and Farage speaking for Roy Moore in Alabama.. although he was well known for grooming young women/ teenagers? This is an EU in or Out thread and the right wingers are the main proponents of Brexit. Hard to avoid them..
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2018
  • #17,032
Grendel said:
You and mad Mart seem to be giving him more attention on here than anyone else. How many times would any right wing extremist be mentioned on here without Mad Mart?
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You seem to think that this says something about me and Mart but I only got involved because I knew an answer to a question you asked. I guess that makes my involvement in this part of the debate your fault. That being the case it confirms that you are personally responsible for an equal share of the attention he’s received this evening. If not the lions share.
 
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martcov

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  • Jul 18, 2018
  • #17,033
Grendel said:
You and mad Mart seem to be giving him more attention on here than anyone else. How many times would any right wing extremist be mentioned on here without Mad Mart?
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And the old Trump trick to give opponents nicknames..... deflection, try to belittle opponents..... I don’t belittle you... don’t need to, you do a good job of discrediting yourself..as does Trump
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 18, 2018
  • #17,034
martcov said:
And the old Trump trick to give opponents nicknames..... deflection, try to belittle opponents..... I don’t belittle you... don’t need to, you do a good job of discrediting yourself..as does Trump
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So people who use silly nicknames are like Donald Trump? That’s interesting.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2018
  • #17,035
Grendel said:
So people who use silly nicknames are like Donald Trump? That’s interesting.
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They literally are if they have that in common
 

chiefdave

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  • Jul 19, 2018
  • #17,036
Westendlad said:
Tommy's case has been adjourned until the end of the month and another media ban today at court.
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I think I've missed something here. Why is there an appeal hearing when he pled guilty at the original trial?

Media ban isn't working very well, quick google shows numerous articles on todays court appearance from the likes of BBC, Guardian, Sun, Mirror, Star, Independent, Metro, Evening Standard, Mail etc.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2018
  • #17,037
chiefdave said:
I think I've missed something here. Why is there an appeal hearing when he pled guilty at the original trial?

Media ban isn't working very well, quick google shows numerous articles on todays court appearance from the likes of BBC, Guardian, Sun, Mirror, Star, Independent, Metro, Evening Standard, Mail etc.
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I think the appeal is against the sentencing rather than the judgement.

Not sure what the media ban comment is about. Like you say, there is coverage everywhere.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Jul 19, 2018
  • #17,038
Sick Boy said:
So you dismiss illegal acts based on something you think to be 'likely'. You'd be one of the first up in arms if the situation was reversed.
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1. I haven't dismissed it at all
2. Why would I?


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SkyblueBazza

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  • Jul 19, 2018
  • #17,039
martcov said:
So you agree the article was crap.
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It certainly has no credibility on the face of it

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SkyblueBazza

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  • Jul 19, 2018
  • #17,040
martcov said:
The richest men in America backed Trump..., and Bannon....and their „ think tank“ is paying Tommy Robinson‘s legal costs. Why do you think that is? I think to influence people like yourselves and distract you from tax havens, deregulation of workers protections and the environment. And break up the EU to make it easier to sell their products and services in Europe by picking off The countries one by one to get the best terms possible. I may of course be wrong, and they are fighting for freedom and justice... but I doubt it..
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Very rich people fund all political parties & cover various costs for unsavory characters

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chiefdave

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  • Jul 19, 2018
  • #17,041
skybluetony176 said:
I think the appeal is against the sentencing rather than the judgement.
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Not sure he'll get too far there. Quick look at the sentencing guidelines says up to 2 years in jail for contempt of court. He had a suspended sentence of 3 months from the last time he did it, no longer suspended, then 10 months for the repeat offence.

3 months against a maximum of 2 years doesn't seem particularly harsh nor does 10 months for doing exactly the same thing again.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jul 19, 2018
  • #17,042
chiefdave said:
Not sure he'll get too far there. Quick look at the sentencing guidelines says up to 2 years in jail for contempt of court. He had a suspended sentence of 3 months from the last time he did it, no longer suspended, then 10 months for the repeat offence.

3 months against a maximum of 2 years doesn't seem particularly harsh nor does 10 months for doing exactly the same thing again.
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That’s true. Maybe he’s having trouble going cold turkey from the attention he craves while being locked up and this is a method to get his fix. Plus someone else is paying for it so why not.
 

Westendlad

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2018
  • #17,043
chiefdave said:
I think I've missed something here. Why is there an appeal hearing when he pled guilty at the original trial?

Media ban isn't working very well, quick google shows numerous articles on todays court appearance from the likes of BBC, Guardian, Sun, Mirror, Star, Independent, Metro, Evening Standard, Mail etc.
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I meant yesterday.....Did you hear anything on the news yesterday ?
 

Westendlad

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  • Jul 19, 2018
  • #17,044
skybluetony176 said:
That’s true. Maybe he’s having trouble going cold turkey from the attention he craves while being locked up and this is a method to get his fix. Plus someone else is paying for it so why not.
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Maybe he would like to get home to his family.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jul 19, 2018
  • #17,045
Westendlad said:
I meant yesterday.....Did you hear anything on the news yesterday ?
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There was loads. Just google Tommy Robinson appeal and there’s dozens of not hundreds of articles with yesterday’s date on it.
 
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