Grendel
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Munira Muzra and Cummings are his advisors
His advisors are extreme socialists! Look at the guy that had to resign last week - if that's an extreme socialist I'd hate to see him surrounded by conservatives!
However I do agree he doesn't give a toss about conservatism - he doesn't give a toss about anything other than himself and what he wants. That is why if taking a crap EU deal will keep him as PM he'll take it - it's because that is what he really wants. If it sells the country down the river so what - he's got what he wanted out of it.
Johnson is a chancer and gambler like Cameron - also like Cameron he doesn’t give a toss about conservatism - he’s advisors are extreme socialists - it’s inconceivable he won’t have 2 terms of office if he wants them - Katya Adler the BBC correspondent based in Europe said there was a collective wrist slitting in Brussels when the result of the election was announced
The Conservatives might get that, he might not.it’s inconceivable he won’t have 2 terms of office if he wants them
The ability to make the import and manufacture of goods more expensive is not a super ability reallyMost companies hedge the risk it’s not that dramatic and again it’s the ability not the action
He's got to get through 1 term yet. 2024 will be a different playing field once Brexit has made the areas that lesnt their vote poorer not richer. You can only talk about sunny uplands so much until people actually expect to see themJohnson is a chancer and gambler like Cameron - also like Cameron he doesn’t give a toss about conservatism - he’s advisors are extreme socialists - it’s inconceivable he won’t have 2 terms of office if he wants them - Katya Adler the BBC correspondent based in Europe said there was a collective wrist slitting in Brussels when the result of the election was announced
Not sure you understand what socialism is if you think a bunch of libertarians are extreme examples of it.
Was. Been many a revolutionary com units who'd moved over to a right wing grift. I would hardly call Brendan O'Neill and Claire Fox socialists but they are former members of the revolutionary communist partyMizra was a revolutionary communist and had written many articles and a book regarding Marxism? She’s hardly a libertarian
Was. Been many a revolutionary com units who'd moved over to a right wing grift. I would hardly call Brendan O'Neill and Claire Fox socialists but they are former members of the revolutionary communist party
Mizra was a revolutionary communist and had written many articles and a book regarding Marxism? She’s hardly a libertarian
What were their 2015 figures in comparison?
The weakening of the pound alone made JLR hugely profitable in 2016
With your insider knowledge no doubt you’re aware this only works as a cushion while there are zero tariffs at which point the current business model becomes “unviable”.
You’ll also be aware devaluation will be detrimental to the overall economy so please stop trying to paint a side effect of Brexit as some magic bullet.
After appearing to start to turn things around JLR is going to really struggle this year with Corona virus and Johnson’s kamikaze approach to Brexit.
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Stop pretending devaluation wouldn't hurt the UK's economy. t's been explained to you already.Er no as the main profits were and always will be outside the Eu
aftersales has little hedging and we reaped huge profits in the non Eu markets
Brexit is having no impact now and the issues that are coming are all China related as you well know
Er no as the main profits were and always will be outside the Eu
aftersales has little hedging and we reaped huge profits in the non Eu markets
Brexit is having no impact now and the issues that are coming are all China related as you well know
No production at land rover solihull today so a few thousand of us have been layed off . Nothing to do with Brexit though.With your insider knowledge no doubt you’re aware this only works as a cushion while there are zero tariffs at which point the current business model becomes “unviable”.
You’ll also be aware devaluation will be detrimental to the overall economy so please stop trying to paint a side effect of Brexit as some magic bullet.
After appearing to start to turn things around JLR is going to really struggle this year with Corona virus and Johnson’s kamikaze approach to Brexit.
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You’re deflecting, as usual. The EU is still a significant market. Currency devaluation won’t help the wider U.K. economy.
China isn’t the only issue as I’m sure you know and as I said above any new threat, whether the possible pandemic or Brexit may be too much for the business to deal with in its distressed state.
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Currency devaluation would make goods and raw materials from outside the uk more expensive for uk based companies. What part of that do t you fuck8ng grenners. You learn this stuff at GCSE level economics.Currency devaluation would have significantly helped many Eu countries sbd will again - imports and exports in and out of the Eu are relatively balanced - to suggest it cannot be an effective tool if required is absurd
Currency devaluation would have significantly helped many Eu countries sbd will again - imports and exports in and out of the Eu are relatively balanced - to suggest it cannot be an effective tool if required is absurd
No production at land rover solihull today so a few thousand of us have been layed off . Nothing to do with Brexit though.
Yes it's starting to affect us now. Normally if they stand the lines down they still have us(off track area)in to clear up the repair/wip cars. It's nice to have a day off but tbh I dont like this and I'd rather it be business as usual.How’s the situation with parts? Last I heard it was touch an go last week if the lines could continue?
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I’m not saying it can’t be an effective tool. I’m saying it wouldn’t be an effective tool for the U.K.
It could help some EU countries because they’re net exporters.
I suspect you know that and are just trying to move the goal posts so you don’t have to concede your original point.
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It would be effective for the uk and the ability to do so puts us in a stronger possession in the event of a potential global recession as countries such as Italy and Spain will be facing certain bankruptcy if the European Bank cannot any longer retain artificially low interest rates
G we’re net importers. You’d have to completely rebalance the economy first.
Just because it’s a tool you can’t deploy at a national level in the eurozone doesn’t mean it’s an advantage to us.
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There is no fucking advantage to making the goods and raw materials we have to import more expensive. If we have a strong enough manufacturing sector and were rich in raw materials then you'd have point but we don't. All your stupid idea would do is send more British companies to the wall as they can afford the goods they need,That’s not the point though - the ability to do it makes us as at a big advantage compared to weak European economies - global recession, interest rates desperately trying to be held by the euro bank than Johnson announces we are out, no deal, no divorce settlement go whistle Europe. We then inject money into the economist, reduce corporation tax to get markets in Europe to transfer production - there’s a host of things we can do now and Europe can’t stop us
That’s not the point though - the ability to do it makes us as at a big advantage compared to weak European economies - global recession, interest rates desperately trying to be held by the euro bank than Johnson announces we are out, no deal, no divorce settlement go whistle Europe. We then inject money into the economist, reduce corporation tax to get markets in Europe to transfer production - there’s a host of things we can do now and Europe can’t stop us
That’s not the point though - the ability to do it makes us as at a big advantage compared to weak European economies - global recession, interest rates desperately trying to be held by the euro bank than Johnson announces we are out, no deal, no divorce settlement go whistle Europe. We then inject money into the economist, reduce corporation tax to get markets in Europe to transfer production - there’s a host of things we can do now and Europe can’t stop us
Look at the last recession. Triggered by the collapse of one sector in the US economy. No way would we dodge the bullet if the Eurozone collapsed. The opposite would be true, it would be 2008+++. Only a moron would be salivating at the prospect.Secondly, a weak eurozone helps nobody. It will just drag us into a recession with it.
You met grendel?Look at the last recession. Triggered by the collapse of one sector in the US economy. No way would we dodge the bullet if the Eurozone collapsed. The opposite would be true, it would be 2008+++. Only a moron would be salivating at the prospect.
I have actually.You met grendel?
There is no fucking advantage to making the goods and raw materials we have to import more expensive. If we have a strong enough manufacturing sector and were rich in raw materials then you'd have point but we don't. All your stupid idea would do is send more British companies to the wall as they can afford the goods they need,
You really have no clue on how economics works do you.
Also, like a lot of pro Brexit people you seem to have this perversion with EU countries failing or going into recession. Firstly, that’s people’s livelihoods you seem hell bent on the U.K. government gambling with. Secondly, a weak eurozone helps nobody. It will just drag us into a recession with it.
For various reasons it’s likely there’s a global recession in the near future. I wish people would stop with this ridiculous us vs them mentality about it. The global economy is a highly interconnected thing and we all depend on each other. Brexit, the Trump trade wars etc are the economic equivalent of farting in a packed lift.
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intimate little tete-a-tete.I have actually.
Yes I do and if Greece, Italy, Spain and Portugal were not hamstrung to what is effectively a German currency they would not be in the severe crises they are in now would they?
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