The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

Discussion in 'Off Topic Chat' started by jimmyhillsfanclub, Jun 8, 2016.

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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
  1. Remain

    23 vote(s)
    37.1%
  2. Leave

    35 vote(s)
    56.5%
  3. Undecided

    3 vote(s)
    4.8%
  4. Not registered or not intention to vote

    1 vote(s)
    1.6%
  1. Sick Boy

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    Against the likes of the USA and the EU, the UK has minimal leverage, I’m sorry to say.

    Being nimble is not going to come into it, both are going to have a lot more clout and are going to majorly protect their own interests and will be aware that Britain is in a position of weakness.

    If anything I imagine the EU will be more pragmatic than the USA, which will want to get as much from the UK as possible.
     
  2. CCFCSteve

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    Being nimble and flexible is important though sick boy. What I meant is, for example, when the EU is trying to reach a trade agreement they have to consider the implications of no tariffs, quotas etc on each individual country and even regions within those countries. So, what might be fine for 26 nations could be detrimental to one country/region within a country, leading to a possible veto, delay or having to give way on other elements of the agreement.

    The U.K. won’t have this issue so whilst I appreciate leverage is potentially (significantly) less due to our size in comparison with the block, this flexibility is beneficial in negotiations. Also there might well be elements of the current EU trade agreements that are currently detrimental to sectors, regions etc in the U.K, which we now have the chance to address.

    I’m not for one minute suggesting negotiations will be plain sailing, however, I do see some of the positives as well as the negatives
     
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    In which case a no deal Brexit may be preferable, as we are then free to negotiate with individual countries, without fear that another might veto any agreement purely for their own reasons.
     
  4. Sick Boy

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    Which individual countries are you talking about?
     
  5. Sick Boy

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    I would imagine that the EU would have an agreed position that is based upon agreement amongst the 26 countries, the UK is not going to be in a position to be calling the shots here, as we’ve seen so far. This is regardless of a position on Brexit, it’s the reality of the situation.
     
  6. SkyblueBazza

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    I can't be arsed to look back...you were at least sympathetic to the cause of arguing against Brexit.

    Let us start again though, you are deluding yourself in the second paragraph because you appear convinced it is all going to be the UK giving way. Deluded!

    My whole reason for pointing out your delusion was your accusing me of the same...which I am at times, but you are at LEAST as deluded as I am - & you are deluding yourself again at the end thinking I am a herb

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    Delusion in every paragraph Clint.



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  8. clint van damme

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    I've constantly argued against Brexit.
    Still think it'd the wrong decision. That's not the same as wanting to overthrow the referendum.
    And ten minutes in yo the second half Baz. Really?
     
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    Boris Johnson has accepted the very deal he stood up at a conference and said no PM should ever accept.
     
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    What about it?

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    Good news, our chums in Sunderland have been screwed over. Turns out the promises Johnson made when he was up there on the campaign trail aren't going to be kept throwing fresh doubt over Nissans future there.
     
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    .....is anyone counting down to armageddon ?
     
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    Still waiting for something I can do on Saturday morning I couldn’t Friday night. There must be some EU rule I can symbolically break?

    Maybe I’ll make some shit sparkling wine and call it Champagne.
     
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    Yes, I have a long weekend at the in-laws.
     
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    Tories making wank socks now...

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    Assumed it was a wind up, you can actually buy them!
     
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    Move over half and half scarves. We have a new cringiest fabric now
     
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    Yes but will it have the absorbency capability to mop up Boris’ Brexit baby boom?

    Or will Jennifer just swallow?
     
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    No it’s not - If I knew how to embed the tweet I would put it on so you can link to it.... hilarious.
     
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    I'm sure Doms ordered one lol.

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    Am I the only one that saw that and got an image of the priest from The Omen impaled on the flagpole?
     
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    When Brexit happens, my dog with an EU pet passport will have more rights to travel than me with a British passport.
     
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    Brainexit

    Trump here ~ Johnson there

    The world has gonetoshit
     
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    I watch events in my home country with increasing disgust and disbelief. I have dual nationality so not really affected personally yet, but that’s not the point. Place is a shambles.
     
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    We’ve been looking at possible scenarios for traveling to the EU with our dog. Should be OK this year but it seems there’s a possibility that you may have to pay duty on your dog when re-entering the U.K.
     
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    That tea towel is class, gonna buy it for every remainer in this thread
     
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    Got 30 on order
     
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    I never thought I'd hear a tea towel of any description described in that way.
     
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    deep down you love it Clint
     
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    Not long now. I've revamped my Anderson shelter.
     
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    Ta. I'll have one!
     
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    The main difference?

    Politicians were always c*nts, it’s just (in the main) they’d pull their fuckhousery behind closed doors.

    Now, you’re actually lorded and voted for...for being a c*nt.

    That shit trickles down to the public, including those that used to pull their fuckhousery behind closed doors, that now don’t have to, because ‘being a c*nt’ is seen as sociably acceptable.

    So now we’re surrounded by c*nts being c*nts, who are raising their kids to be c*nts.
     
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    Still another year really. Literally nothing changes this Friday except we become rule takers and not rule makers for a bit.
     
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    The thought of us making our own rules keeps you up at night, bet you're fuming that we can't be controlled by the EU anymore
     

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