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The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (7 Viewers)

  • Thread starter jimmyhillsfanclub
  • Start date Jun 8, 2016
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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
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skybluetony176

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  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,961
djr8369 said:
Tony I don’t disagree with the majority what you’ve said. Economics is just the most often used yardstick and the least subjective so seems the obvious choice to measure the “success” of Brexit.


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It is and I think it’s a deliberate strategy of flattery to deceive and treat people as plebs.
 
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djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,962
skybluetony176 said:
It is and I think it’s a deliberate strategy of flattery to deceive and treat people as plebs.
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The points you’ve raise could be a whole thread on their own.


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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,963
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Translated:


Big difference is that Paul Merton has actually been a professional improv comic for nearly 40 years. He has done one (not very) stand-up show in over 20 years. Don't recall seeing Paul Telfer competing for the Claret Jug..... does Paul Telfer claim to be more of a professional golfer than a professional footballer (although I'm sure there are some who would be willing to debate which one he was most qualified for)?

I can even give you the date and where he said it: 17 May 2008. Butterworth Hall, Warwick Arts Centre. I remember because it was my birthday.

And I don't believe everything people say. But when people say something about their own lives and the information backs it up considering the work he's done in the comedy genre on stage/radio/TV is dominated by improv based stuff I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt..

Even HIGNFY, which he could to some extent prepare and write stuff for, he doesn't bother. He barely bothers to keep up to date with the news on TV or in the papers even though he's on a topical news quiz. If a joke pops into his head or he sees something funny he'll remember it but he won't try and actively write jokes for the show, which is what a stand up comic does because they like set-ups and punchlines. He just reacts to whats going on.
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He’s a stand up stop looking like a twat every day
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,964
fernandopartridge said:
It'll pass I think, think there will be sufficient Labour MP support.
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really? Can’t see it myself
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,965
Grendel said:
really? Can’t see it myself
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Yeah, might see if I can get a price on it
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,966
6/5 on SkyBet

22/1 for a dead heat which is worth a bet given how close it is
 
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ccfc92

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,967
Labour MP's asking for financial aid for having to go in on Saturday, you couldn't make this shit up.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,968
Grendel said:
He’s a stand up stop looking like a twat every day
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You best tell Paul Merton to update his website then. He seems to be under the opinion that he’s a impro comedian not a stand up. I’m sure he’ll appreciate your input helping him see the error of his ways.
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,969
ccfc92 said:
Labour MP's asking for financial aid for having to go in on Saturday, you couldn't make this shit up.
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Eh?

Can’t find anything about anything like this. You sure you haven’t made it up?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,970
fernandopartridge said:
6/5 on SkyBet

22/1 for a dead heat which is worth a bet given how close it is
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That would come down to the Speaker wouldn’t it?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,971
fernandopartridge said:
6/5 on SkyBet

22/1 for a dead heat which is worth a bet given how close it is
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what would happen if that was the result?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,972
shmmeee said:
Eh?

Can’t find anything about anything like this. You sure you haven’t made it up?
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Bryant asking for child care allowance
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,973
shmmeee said:

Looks tight. I suspect it’s going to pass.
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What a load of bullshit. That whole link didn't mention Merton a single time.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,974
clint van damme said:
what would happen if that was the result?
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Yeah it’s the Speaker to cast the deciding vote: Divisions

Imagine the scenes if Bercow votes it down.
 
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Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,975
clint van damme said:
what would happen if that was the result?
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Very simple. You would get paid out at 22/1 If you bet on it :smuggrin:
 
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Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,976
shmmeee said:
Yeah it’s the Speaker to cast the deciding vote: Divisions

Imagine the scenes if Bercow votes it down.
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It would be bedlam whatever he did.
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,977
shmmeee said:
Yeah it’s the Speaker to cast the deciding vote: Divisions

Imagine the scenes if Bercow votes it down.
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well it’s not happening the bill may even be withdrawn
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,978
I see that the DUP are palling up with the Brexit Party and the Brexit Party has gone rogue from Aaron Banks who apparently supports the deal. Not sure how much of the latter is game play though, especially with what I’m hearing about the reasoning behind the Letwin amendment being voted on tomorrow also.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,979
skybluetony176 said:
I see that the DUP are palling up with the Brexit Party and the Brexit Party has gone rogue from Aaron Banks who apparently supports the deal. Not sure how much of the latter is game play though, especially with what I’m hearing about the reasoning behind the Letwin amendment being voted on tomorrow also.
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Go on...
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,980
Subscribe to read | Financial Times

Interesting read. Seems if anything the Benn Act was what got Boris to compromise and a deal done. All hail arch Leaver Hillary Benn, I guess?
 

ccfc92

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,981
shmmeee said:
Eh?

Can’t find anything about anything like this. You sure you haven’t made it up?
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Come on Shmeee, you're better than that.

 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,982
shmmeee said:
Go on...
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Just watching C4 news and it seems the principle of the Letwin amendment is to stop hard brexiteers voting for the deal but then voting against the legislation needed in order to force a hard brexit by default.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,983
ccfc92 said:
Come on Shmeee, you're better than that.

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I did look, just not the right words obviously.

I mean, eh, one guy asking if because the normal Parliament childcare is not running would they get cover for private is hardly the scandal you’re making out.
 
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ccfc92

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  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,984
shmmeee said:
I did look, just not the right words obviously.

I mean, eh, one guy asking if because the normal Parliament childcare is not running would they get cover for private is hardly the scandal you’re making out.
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Just seems more like trying to get extra money rather than actually concerned about childcare to me. Just seems a waste of debating time even bringing it up, surely it's something you'd speak to your party leader about?
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,985
Isn't working people needing help with childcare for out of hours working a pretty normal thing?
 
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clint van damme

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  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,986
Deleted member 5849 said:
Isn't working people needing help with childcare for out of hours working a pretty normal thing?
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you're confusing MPs for working people mate!
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,987
Down to 16/1 now
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,988
clint van damme said:
you're confusing MPs for working people mate!
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Maybe so

I dunno though. If I was contracted certain hours and then was asked to alter them, if it inconvenienced me enough I'd be asking how they could help me do what they wanted. Now... in my case the answer would be do it or be sacked but I'm not convinced we need to race to the bottom (to mimic Italia), more want to improve standards for all.,
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,989
Deleted member 5849 said:
Maybe so

I dunno though. If I was contracted certain hours and then was asked to alter them, if it inconvenienced me enough I'd be asking how they could help me do what they wanted. Now... in my case the answer would be do it or be sacked but I'm not convinced we need to race to the bottom (to mimic Italia), more want to improve standards for all.,
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honestly if you really had they attitude you’d get nowhere in life - when I started in marketing in Jaguar on some exceptional occasions I’d stay till midnight and get in again the next morning at 7 - it’s what gets you noticed in the real world

oh and in the real world you don’t claim a season ticket on expenses
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,990
Grendel said:
honestly if you really had they attitude you’d get nowhere in life - when I started in marketing in Jaguar on some exceptional occasions I’d stay till midnight and get in again the next morning at 7 - it’s what gets you noticed in the real world

oh and in the real world you don’t claim a season ticket on expenses
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Don't need to be lectured on long hours, done 120 hour weeks in the past for about three and a half years, but I won't expect that medal, thanks.

Interesting that you wouldn't claim to travel to Solihuill, say, if your main base was Whitley...
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,991
I am sure on my travels around the internet tonight the Guardian are suggesting that there are the numbers for the deal to be passed tomorrow.

If the EU think they are tough at driving deals through they sure are going to have some fun time getting the DUP to support anything which isn't going to cost them both arms and legs.

I think the vote tomorrow will come down to how many Labour MPs are going to vote for the deal tomorrow to tip the balance.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,992
Philosorapter said:
I am sure on my travels around the internet tonight the Guardian are suggesting that there are the numbers for the deal to be passed tomorrow.

If the EU think they are tough at driving deals through they sure are going to have some fun time getting the DUP to support anything which isn't going to cost them both arms and legs.

I think the vote tomorrow will come down to how many Labour MPs are going to vote for the deal tomorrow to tip the balance.
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Why would the EU have to start negotiating deals with the DUP?
 

Astute

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  • Oct 18, 2019
  • #43,993
shmmeee said:
Subscribe to read | Financial Times

Interesting read. Seems if anything the Benn Act was what got Boris to compromise and a deal done. All hail arch Leaver Hillary Benn, I guess?
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Boris may be a childish twat but he isn't an idiot. You don't get to hold the positions he has by being an idiot.

As he isn't an idiot he will know that having some sort of agreement was very important. He never wanted to leave without a trade deal. Now they are going to talk trade deals if it all goes through. If it doesn't go through he will be seen as not being at fault.

Not bad for someone who many like to make out to be an idiot.
 

Astute

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  • Oct 19, 2019
  • #43,994
Deleted member 5849 said:
Isn't working people needing help with childcare for out of hours working a pretty normal thing?
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Normally yes. But someone on over 6k a month without expenses?

Help should be available for those who need it and not just want it. I have never had help with childcare costs. My basic wage is below his. But I would never dream of trying to claim it in any way.
 

Astute

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  • Oct 19, 2019
  • #43,995
Deleted member 5849 said:
Don't need to be lectured on long hours, done 120 hour weeks in the past for about three and a half years, but I won't expect that medal, thanks.

Interesting that you wouldn't claim to travel to Solihuill, say, if your main base was Whitley...
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Wow. That is over 17 hours a day 7 days a week. I have been doing 84 hours a week which is 12 hours a day 7 days a week. That was enough for me. Have knocked it on the head for good. No more OT ever again. There is more to life than living at work and sleeping. Only learned this in the last two weeks.

42 months to retirement and counting :wideyed:
 
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