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The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (17 Viewers)

  • Thread starter jimmyhillsfanclub
  • Start date Jun 8, 2016
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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,141
Maybe Porky could bribe his way out with some shower heads?
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,142
We'll still leave the EU like the majority voted for
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,143
SkyBlueDom26 said:
We'll still leave the EU like the majority voted for
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One line Dom, with usual level of insight.

You'd suit a twitterbot.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,144
Deleted member 5849 said:
One line Dom, with usual level of insight.

You'd suit a twitterbot.
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I could of voted remain for all you know, i just think that if a referendum is held and one side win a majority then the referendum result has to be honored.... something which certain people can't accept
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,145
SkyBlueDom26 said:
I could of voted remain for all you know
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It's safe to say with your mechanical repetition, with no variance or commentary on what's going on around you...

You might well have done so, by mistake.
 
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Grappa

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,146
SkyBlueDom26 said:
I could of voted remain for all you know, i just think that if a referendum is held and one side win a majority then the referendum result has to be honored.... something which certain people can't accept
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If you don`t like our laws you can always leave.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,147
Grappa said:
If you don`t like our laws you can always leave.
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Whats that got to do with respecting a referendum result
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,148
Grappa said:
If you don`t like our laws you can always leave.
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The judgement reaffirmed parliamentary sovereignty, what every right minded leaver voted for, apparently.

All it shows is we have a charlatan in charge, who's not to be trusted on... anything.

Then again, we knew that before, and it didn't stop him ending up as PM!l
 
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Grappa

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  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,149
Deleted member 5849 said:
The judgement reaffirmed parliamentary sovereignty, what every right minded leaver voted for, apparently.

All it shows is we have a charlatan in charge, who's not to be trusted on... anything.

Then again, we knew that before, and it didn't stop him ending up as PM!l
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Can the government appeal to the European Court of Justice, perhaps?
 
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Grappa

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,150
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Whats that got to do with respecting a referendum result
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,151
Deleted member 5849 said:
...or not.

In normal circumstances, this would be the end of the PM, wouldn't it?
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Yes definitely
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,152
Deleted member 5849 said:
The judgement reaffirmed parliamentary sovereignty, what every right minded leaver voted for, apparently.

All it shows is we have a charlatan in charge, who's not to be trusted on... anything.

Then again, we knew that before, and it didn't stop him ending up as PM!l
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The question is who can we trust.

If we have another election now I don't know who I would vote for. I have voted Labour all my life. I normally ignore the bad and look at the good. I was dragged up on council estates in Coventry by a single parent. But now I am unsure what Labour stands for. Even the Labour party don't know what they stand for.

Tory? Wash your mouth out with soap.

Lib Dems? If they didn't get into bed with the Tories maybe. But now a no.

Reconsider Labour? Last time it was the Tories in disguise. Now there is nothing to disguise.

I give up. I hope there isn't another GE.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,153
Deleted member 5849 said:
One line Dom, with usual level of insight.

You'd suit a twitterbot.
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This is not a good day for democracy - the Supreme Court is a ghastly Blairite invention to serve exactly this purpose.

Despite the so called outrage at Mr Johnson the Labour Party it seems want to retain mr Johnson as leader

The Order Paper being removed from the elected government and that government is now being held hostage through the abuse of parliamentary procedure - the parliament act is being abused

I assure you many many people will share Dom’s views and the strength of opposition to this rag tag parliament will grow
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,154
Sick Boy said:
Yes definitely
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But who is there to oppose him? Most of those against him have been forced out. And Labour don't want to force a GE.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,155
Astute said:
The question is who can we trust.

If we have another election now I don't know who I would vote for. I have voted Labour all my life. I normally ignore the bad and look at the good. I was dragged up on council estates in Coventry by a single parent. But now I am unsure what Labour stands for. Even the Labour party don't know what they stand for.

Tory? Wash your mouth out with soap.

Lib Dems? If they didn't get into bed with the Tories maybe. But now a no.

Reconsider Labour? Last time it was the Tories in disguise. Now there is nothing to disguise.

I give up. I hope there isn't another GE.
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Well I certainly wouldn’t vote labour if you want your pension unscathed
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,156
Grendel said:
This is not a good day for democracy - the Supreme Court is a ghastly Blairite invention to serve exactly this purpose.

Despite the so called outrage at Mr Johnson the Labour Party it seems want to retain mr Johnson as leader

The Order Paper being removed from the elected government and that government is now being held hostage through the abuse of parliamentary procedure - the parliament act is being abused

I assure you many many people will share Dom’s views and the strength of opposition to this rag tag parliament will grow
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Grendel mate there is no more Democracy, the people who voted remain will stop at nothing to overturn the result...
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,157
Grendel said:
This is not a good day for democracy - the Supreme Court is a ghastly Blairite invention to serve exactly this purpose.

Despite the so called outrage at Mr Johnson the Labour Party it seems want to retain mr Johnson as leader

The Order Paper being removed from the elected government and that government is now being held hostage through the abuse of parliamentary procedure - the parliament act is being abused

I assure you many many people will share Dom’s views and the strength of opposition to this rag tag parliament will grow
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Half the people are happy with the result. The other half are getting more angry that their wishes are getting ignored.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,158
Grendel said:
This is not a good day for democracy
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Perish the thought we have people to look objectively at the evidence, and come to a conclusion.

Far better to hand it over to some emotional ranters.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,159
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Grendel mate there is no more Democracy, the people who voted remain will stop at nothing to overturn the result...
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Yet another ridiculous moronic statement. You're on fire today.
 
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Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,160
Grendel said:
Well I certainly wouldn’t vote labour if you want your pension unscathed
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I learned my lesson last time when Gordon Brown killed off final salary pensions. Most of mine is now fully protected until I take it from where it is. I hold no risk. I am now being offered a massive amount to take it out but it is staying until I know what is happening.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,161
Deleted member 5849 said:
Perish the thought we have people to look objectively at the evidence, and come to a conclusion.

Far better to hand it over to some emotional ranters.
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You are advocating removing parliamentary democracy. Quango courts are the banana republic ideas of democracy - this is an establishment bending every rule in the book to prevent an agreed outcome of a referendum
 
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SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,162
Deleted member 5849 said:
Yet another ridiculous moronic statement. You're on fire today.
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Constantly trying to insult instead of arguing the point, yh good oneee
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,163
Astute said:
I learned my lesson last time when Gordon Brown killed off final salary pensions. Most of mine is now fully protected until I take it from where it is. I hold no risk. I am now being offered a massive amount to take it out but it is staying until I know what is happening.
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It’s a defined benefit scheme though isn’t it?
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,164
Grendel said:
You are advocating removing parliamentary democracy.
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Nope. The judgement reaffirms parliamentary democracy, when it is under assault by a liar and a fraud of a Prime Minister.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,165
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Constantly trying to insult instead of arguing the point, yh good oneee
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Well you start with the insults you dick.

How can I argue with a moronioc base vacuous statement of nothing?
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,166
Deleted member 5849 said:
Well you start with the insults you dick.

How can I argue with a moronioc base vacuous statement of nothing?
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Tell me how the remain side aren't trying to stop brexit.... We've got Swinson saying she'll revoke article 50, no deal getting blocked....... Mp's are doing everything possible to also try and stop brexit
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,167
Grendel said:
It’s a defined benefit scheme though isn’t it?
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Yes but closed last year as it was costing nearly 80% of my wage to keep it going with the tax and new rules put onto it. I am now guaranteed a minimum of 3% a year no risk to me with triple lock benefits.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,168
Deleted member 5849 said:
Nope. The judgement reaffirms parliamentary democracy, when it is under assault by a liar and a fraud of a Prime Minister.
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Nope because the opposition has control of the Order Paper and is abusing the parliament act rather than calling a no confidence motion. I said before Johnson should have called the motion himself and see the absurd sight of the opposition voting against the motion.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,169
Deleted member 5849 said:
Nope. The judgement reaffirms parliamentary democracy, when it is under assault by a liar and a fraud of a Prime Minister.
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Democracy. A word that suddenly has so many different meanings.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,170
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Tell me how the remain side aren't trying to stop brexit.... We've got Swinson saying she'll revoke article 50, no deal getting blocked....... Mp's are doing everything possible to also try and stop brexit
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Tell me, do you condone the Prime Minister engaging in unlawful acts, and wilfully misleading the Queen?
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,171
Deleted member 5849 said:
Tell me, do you condone the Prime Minister engaging in unlawful acts, and wilfully misleading the Queen?
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Probably shouldn't have tried to suspend it for as long as he did but it still doesn't take away the fact that brexit should be delivered
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,172
Grendel said:
Nope because the opposition has control of the Order Paper and is abusing the parliament act rather than calling a no confidence motion. I said before Johnson should have called the motion himself and see the absurd sight of the opposition voting against the motion.
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It'd be pretty absurd to watch the PM whip his party into voting for a no confidence motion in himself. Wonder if he'd withdraw the whip from those who said they had confidence in him...
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,173
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Probably shouldn't have tried to suspend it for as long as he did
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How do you feel about the fact he's a proven liar?

How about the fact he's misled the Queen?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,174
SkyBlueDom26 said:
I could of voted remain for all you know, i just think that if a referendum is held and one side win a majority then the referendum result has to be honored.... something which certain people can't accept
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As someone who voted remain I totally agree.
But the PM breaking the law shouldn't be an acceptable way to facilitate it. Leavers have been banging the drum for parliamentary sovereignty since the referendum, surely they should want it upheld?
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2019
  • #42,175
Deleted member 5849 said:
It'd be pretty absurd to watch the PM whip his party into voting for a no confidence motion in himself. Wonder if he'd withdraw the whip from those who said they had confidence in him...
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It wouldn’t as it would be the obvious way round the parliament act shenanigans that the opposition are using
 
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