The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (15 Viewers)

As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed .

Grappa

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The judgement reaffirmed parliamentary sovereignty, what every right minded leaver voted for, apparently.

All it shows is we have a charlatan in charge, who's not to be trusted on... anything.

Then again, we knew that before, and it didn't stop him ending up as PM!l

Can the government appeal to the European Court of Justice, perhaps?
 

Astute

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The judgement reaffirmed parliamentary sovereignty, what every right minded leaver voted for, apparently.

All it shows is we have a charlatan in charge, who's not to be trusted on... anything.

Then again, we knew that before, and it didn't stop him ending up as PM!l
The question is who can we trust.

If we have another election now I don't know who I would vote for. I have voted Labour all my life. I normally ignore the bad and look at the good. I was dragged up on council estates in Coventry by a single parent. But now I am unsure what Labour stands for. Even the Labour party don't know what they stand for.

Tory? Wash your mouth out with soap.

Lib Dems? If they didn't get into bed with the Tories maybe. But now a no.

Reconsider Labour? Last time it was the Tories in disguise. Now there is nothing to disguise.

I give up. I hope there isn't another GE.
 

Grendel

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One line Dom, with usual level of insight.

You'd suit a twitterbot.

This is not a good day for democracy - the Supreme Court is a ghastly Blairite invention to serve exactly this purpose.

Despite the so called outrage at Mr Johnson the Labour Party it seems want to retain mr Johnson as leader

The Order Paper being removed from the elected government and that government is now being held hostage through the abuse of parliamentary procedure - the parliament act is being abused

I assure you many many people will share Dom’s views and the strength of opposition to this rag tag parliament will grow
 

Grendel

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The question is who can we trust.

If we have another election now I don't know who I would vote for. I have voted Labour all my life. I normally ignore the bad and look at the good. I was dragged up on council estates in Coventry by a single parent. But now I am unsure what Labour stands for. Even the Labour party don't know what they stand for.

Tory? Wash your mouth out with soap.

Lib Dems? If they didn't get into bed with the Tories maybe. But now a no.

Reconsider Labour? Last time it was the Tories in disguise. Now there is nothing to disguise.

I give up. I hope there isn't another GE.

Well I certainly wouldn’t vote labour if you want your pension unscathed
 

SkyBlueDom26

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This is not a good day for democracy - the Supreme Court is a ghastly Blairite invention to serve exactly this purpose.

Despite the so called outrage at Mr Johnson the Labour Party it seems want to retain mr Johnson as leader

The Order Paper being removed from the elected government and that government is now being held hostage through the abuse of parliamentary procedure - the parliament act is being abused

I assure you many many people will share Dom’s views and the strength of opposition to this rag tag parliament will grow

Grendel mate there is no more Democracy, the people who voted remain will stop at nothing to overturn the result...
 

Astute

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This is not a good day for democracy - the Supreme Court is a ghastly Blairite invention to serve exactly this purpose.

Despite the so called outrage at Mr Johnson the Labour Party it seems want to retain mr Johnson as leader

The Order Paper being removed from the elected government and that government is now being held hostage through the abuse of parliamentary procedure - the parliament act is being abused

I assure you many many people will share Dom’s views and the strength of opposition to this rag tag parliament will grow
Half the people are happy with the result. The other half are getting more angry that their wishes are getting ignored.
 

Astute

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Well I certainly wouldn’t vote labour if you want your pension unscathed
I learned my lesson last time when Gordon Brown killed off final salary pensions. Most of mine is now fully protected until I take it from where it is. I hold no risk. I am now being offered a massive amount to take it out but it is staying until I know what is happening.
 

Grendel

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Perish the thought we have people to look objectively at the evidence, and come to a conclusion.

Far better to hand it over to some emotional ranters.

You are advocating removing parliamentary democracy. Quango courts are the banana republic ideas of democracy - this is an establishment bending every rule in the book to prevent an agreed outcome of a referendum
 

Grendel

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I learned my lesson last time when Gordon Brown killed off final salary pensions. Most of mine is now fully protected until I take it from where it is. I hold no risk. I am now being offered a massive amount to take it out but it is staying until I know what is happening.

It’s a defined benefit scheme though isn’t it?
 

SkyBlueDom26

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Well you start with the insults you dick.

How can I argue with a moronioc base vacuous statement of nothing?
Tell me how the remain side aren't trying to stop brexit.... We've got Swinson saying she'll revoke article 50, no deal getting blocked....... Mp's are doing everything possible to also try and stop brexit
 

Astute

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It’s a defined benefit scheme though isn’t it?
Yes but closed last year as it was costing nearly 80% of my wage to keep it going with the tax and new rules put onto it. I am now guaranteed a minimum of 3% a year no risk to me with triple lock benefits.
 

Grendel

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Nope. The judgement reaffirms parliamentary democracy, when it is under assault by a liar and a fraud of a Prime Minister.

Nope because the opposition has control of the Order Paper and is abusing the parliament act rather than calling a no confidence motion. I said before Johnson should have called the motion himself and see the absurd sight of the opposition voting against the motion.
 

NorthernWisdom

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Nope because the opposition has control of the Order Paper and is abusing the parliament act rather than calling a no confidence motion. I said before Johnson should have called the motion himself and see the absurd sight of the opposition voting against the motion.

It'd be pretty absurd to watch the PM whip his party into voting for a no confidence motion in himself. Wonder if he'd withdraw the whip from those who said they had confidence in him...
 

clint van damme

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I could of voted remain for all you know, i just think that if a referendum is held and one side win a majority then the referendum result has to be honored.... something which certain people can't accept

As someone who voted remain I totally agree.
But the PM breaking the law shouldn't be an acceptable way to facilitate it. Leavers have been banging the drum for parliamentary sovereignty since the referendum, surely they should want it upheld?
 

Grendel

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It'd be pretty absurd to watch the PM whip his party into voting for a no confidence motion in himself. Wonder if he'd withdraw the whip from those who said they had confidence in him...

It wouldn’t as it would be the obvious way round the parliament act shenanigans that the opposition are using
 

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