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The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (20 Viewers)

  • Thread starter jimmyhillsfanclub
  • Start date Jun 8, 2016
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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
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Grendel

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  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,461
skybluetony176 said:
Funny thing is that when compared with what’s followed (especially the current PM) he’s the last PM we had that could even remotely be considered a decent PM. I suspect that history will judge Major far more kindly than it will Boris.
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He’s the last PM to suspend parliament
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,462
Grendel said:
I haven’t
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You described him as ‘the man’, voted for his party and even had him as your profile photo on here.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,463
Sick Boy said:
You described him as ‘the man’, voted for his party and even had him as your profile photo on here.
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Yes I was clearly being serious
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,464
Grendel said:
He’s the last PM to suspend parliament
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And?
 
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Grappa

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,465
Decent result
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,466
Ha ha ha ha, ha ha ha ha. Boris’ empty promises from his election campaign are coming home to roost. I do hope no one has taken Boris to be a man of his words.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,467
skybluetony176 said:
Ha ha ha ha, ha ha ha ha. Boris’ empty promises from his election campaign are coming home to roost. I do hope no one has taken Boris to be a man of his words.
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No it’s parliament behaving in an anti democratic way. So an election will happen and we will see what happens then
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,468
Grendel said:
No it’s parliament behaving in an anti democratic way. So an election will happen and we will see what happens then
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Wipe your tears. Boris has sold you snake oil and you brought it. As someone else put it he could shit on your face and you’d claim it’s ice cream.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,469
skybluetony176 said:
Wipe your tears. Boris has sold you snake oil and you brought it. As someone else put it he could shit on your face and you’d claim it’s ice cream.
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You seem very strange? He will now call a general election which as you’ve said he just can. So he will.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,470
Grendel said:
He can provide a date. Oddly labour do not even it seems want to consider an election until after October 31 - how very odd.

Johnson could in theory table a no confidence motion in his own government. This could only fail if Corbyn says he has confidence in the government
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Corbyn made it clear that he will go for an election, once no-deal is off the table. He said it clearly.

Face it - Boris has been schooled today.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,471
Ian1779 said:
Corbyn made it clear that he will go for an election, once no-deal is off the table. He said it clearly.

Face it - Boris has been schooled today.
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Johnson has been shown as being majorly out of his depth.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,472
Ian1779 said:
Corbyn made it clear that he will go for an election, once no-deal is off the table. He said it clearly.

Face it - Boris has been schooled today.
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Confirmed officially now by the Labour Party. Just announced on BBC news at ten.
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,473
Whatever the eventuality is of this whole process, the damage that has been caused is irreversible.. The country won't ever be the same.
People won't vote, the levels of distrust will be absolutely mind-blowing, the faith in parliament and the government shattered.

For me I'm out, just getting on with my life... Work family work family work family then retire, that's me until the day I drop.

Fuck Westminster PUSB
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,474
Ian1779 said:
Corbyn made it clear that he will go for an election, once no-deal is off the table. He said it clearly.

Face it - Boris has been schooled today.
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No deal can’t be taken off as if there was an election and Johnson wins he’d just put an act in to nullify that legislation
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,475
Sick Boy said:
Johnson has been shown as being majorly out of his depth.
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To be honest I thought we’d passed that point long ago but apparently some weren’t sure so they thought they’d give him another go. Unbelievably. That’s what happens when a cult takes over the Tory Party is more like the Manson Family than a political party.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,476
skybluetony176 said:
Confirmed officially now by the Labour Party. Just announced on BBC news at ten.
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It’s irrelevant want they say as we have to send the prime minister to negotiate the extension and he won’t do it
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,477
Grendel said:
You seem very strange? He will now call a general election which as you’ve said he just can. So he will.
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Strange would be buying his snake oil despite the collection of broken promises that follow him.
 
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djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,478
Evo1883 said:
Whatever the eventuality is of this whole process, the damage that has been caused is irreversible.. The country won't ever be the same.
People won't vote, the levels of distrust will be absolutely mind-blowing, the faith in parliament and the government shattered.

For me I'm out, just getting on with my life... Work family work family work family then retire, that's me until the day I drop.

Fuck Westminster PUSB
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Parliament have just stopped a rogue executive trying to have full control without oversight. Today is the first bit of hope that our institutions will survive this mess. In all likelihood Brexit will still go ahead so there’s no reason to say they’ll be distrust.


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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,479
How many days does Johnson have left to come up with backstop alternatives? 20?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,480
djr8369 said:
Parliament have just stopped a rogue executive trying to have full control without oversight. Today is the first bit of hope that our institutions will survive this mess. In all likelihood Brexit will still go ahead so there’s no reason to say they’ll be distrust.


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Unless it is resolved before the end of October it will not go ahead

Today was a desperate day for democracy
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,481
Grendel said:
It’s irrelevant want they say as we have to send the prime minister to negotiate the extension and he won’t do it
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What’s he going to do? Lock himself in the toilet. You also seem to be getting ahead of yourself and assume Boris will still be PM.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,482
Grendel said:
Today was a desperate day for democracy
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So parliament isn’t or shouldn’t be sovereign now?
 
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djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,483
Grendel said:
Unless it is resolved before the end of October it will not go ahead

Today was a desperate day for democracy
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You might feel grateful for today if in future Corbyn is PM and he’s doing something you don’t agree with.


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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,484
Sick Boy said:
So parliament isn’t or shouldn’t be sovereign now?
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What do we want? Parliamentary Sovereignty. When do we want it? Not until the cult has undemocratically got a no deal brexit done.
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,485
Evo1883 said:
Whatever the eventuality is of this whole process, the damage that has been caused is irreversible.. The country won't ever be the same.
People won't vote, the levels of distrust will be absolutely mind-blowing, the faith in parliament and the government shattered.

For me I'm out, just getting on with my life... Work family work family work family then retire, that's me until the day I drop.

Fuck Westminster PUSB
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You don't understand democracy
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,486
djr8369 said:
You might feel grateful for today if in future Corbyn is PM and he’s doing something you don’t agree with.


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After all of this, he’d be defending his right to, surely?!
 
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djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,487
I reckon BJ will randomly sack Cummings in a fit of rage before all this plays out.


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Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,488
fernandopartridge said:
You don't understand democracy
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All I've said is I'm out, and this whole process has done Alot of damage to the country... I never mentioned Wether I was happy or sad about anything that happened today, rather suggesting that I'm a little fed up with the whole thing as are (I'd imagine) many millions of people....

That's not anything to do with my understanding of democracy

People are divided, people are fed up and People want the whole thing sorted one way or another... That's it really

I have no idea why you said I don't understand democracy based off that post, elaborate?
 
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Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,489
Every single conservative rebel has had the whip removed.

The Conservative party is a cult.
 
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Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,490
djr8369 said:
Parliament have just stopped a rogue executive trying to have full control without oversight. Today is the first bit of hope that our institutions will survive this mess. In all likelihood Brexit will still go ahead so there’s no reason to say they’ll be distrust.


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I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that infact, brexit will never happen
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,491
Evo1883 said:
All I've said is I'm out, and this whole process has done Alot of damage to the country... I never mentioned Wether I was happy or sad about anything that happened today, rather suggesting that I'm a little fed up with the whole thing as are (I'd imagine) many millions of people....

That's not anything to do with my understanding of democracy

People are divided, people are fed up and People want the whole thing sorted one way or another... That's it really

I have no idea why you said I don't understand democracy based off that post, elaborate?
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What did this mean then?

Whatever the eventuality is of this whole process, the damage that has been caused is irreversible.. The country won't ever be the same.
People won't vote, the levels of distrust will be absolutely mind-blowing, the faith in parliament and the government shattered.
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Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,492
fernandopartridge said:
What did this mean then?
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Exactly what it says...You don't have to agree with everything in the name of democracy, people can still get annoyed, feel frustrated and let down etc... That's nothing to do with understanding it

Our Democratic process took us to war with Iraq... See my point.. Its not always a glorious thing
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,493
Evo1883 said:
Exactly what it says...You don't have to agree with everything in the name of democracy, people can still get annoyed, feel frustrated and let down etc... That's nothing to do with understanding it

Our Democratic process took us to war with Iraq... See my point.. Its not always a glorious thing
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Not the greatest example as that was based on a sexed up dossier of evidence but take your point.

However, fascism has done a lot lot worse.
 
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Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,494
fernandopartridge said:
Not the greatest example as that was based on a sexed up dossier of evidence but take your point.

However, fascism has done a lot lot worse.
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My point is the whole brexit process has damaged the country, people don't trust politicians, people will stop voting in future as they will feel that their voice doesn't matter and the way the people have been pitted against each other in the name of democracy over the last 3 years has been frankly absurd... So like I said I'm out... That's all
 
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djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #40,495
Evo1883 said:
My point is the whole brexit process has damaged the country, people don't trust politicians, people will stop voting in future as they will feel that their voice doesn't matter and the way the people have been pitted against each other in the name of democracy over the last 3 years has been frankly absurd... So like I said I'm out... That's all
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I think this will lead to higher levels of engagement in politics.


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