The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

Discussion in 'Off Topic Chat' started by jimmyhillsfanclub, Jun 8, 2016.

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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
  1. Remain

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  2. Leave

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  3. Undecided

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  4. Not registered or not intention to vote

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  1. Astute

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    Oh and the Donald thinks she married her brother to get to the US
     
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    Shocking that you’re even bothering to try and justify it.
     
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    Keep burying your head in the sand if you prefer. Here’s another source with the same info Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

    After a strong start to the year, the pound is the worst performer in the Group-of-10 in recent months and is at the lowest ever for this time of year.

    Here’s the currencies referenced in both articles
    G10 currencies - Wikipedia

    Perhaps there’s now some worldwide conspiracy to publish lies about Sterling?

    Can you point out exactly where both of these articles have lied?
     
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    Am I?
    The other take on that would be that you are a media dream...you respond to what they tell you rather than trying to all perspectives on a situation to form your own viewpoint.


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    Fucking hell.

    I didn’t think you could sink any lower after your vile holocaust comments.
     
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    Aha...thanks G. I just read up on that a little & it is all just appears a storm in a teacup (not meaning to trivialise it) seized upon by sensitive souls...obviously for some alternative motive.

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    Which you & others reacted in similar fashion to Trump about? Because I think your reaction(s) were perhaps accusing me of trivialising it. Which I wasn't.

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    Whatever way you want to dress it up, it’s bigotry. To claim those who are upset by racism and bigotry as ‘sensitive souls’ says an awful lot about you.
     
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    Well I don’t think “send them back” comments are entirely helpful and also somewhat ironic given trumps wife isn’t exactly a good old gal from Oklahoma
     
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    The pound might have dropped (which is painful for holidaymakers...although not those holidaying in the Uk, Sickboy !! ;)). However, I heard on the radio this morning that the UKs EU contributions have gone up 20% (£2.6bn to £15.5bn) over the past 12 months due to our economy outperforming many in the EU.

    I googled this but can only see half the story on a Daily telegraph headline so not sure what that means for net contributions. Bizarre (but maybe not surprising) that this isn’t bigger news !
     
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    So Trump isn't seizing upon it & reaching out to sensitivities?

    I struggle to work you out sometimes.

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    Just saw the article, it says it shot up by 2.6 billion percent, wow! ;)
     
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    Absolutely. He is using it as part of grander motive...maybe stoking the fire to gain support for some potential military action somewhere - like Iran perhaps?

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    For challenging and pointing out bigotry? Yeah it’s shocking.

    It’s clear what Trump is doing and the ugly division is trying to create in America. Your attempts at justifying and playing it down are shocking.
     
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    Lol.

    Yeah he originally worked with Bannon by mistake. I’m can’t work out if you’re just naive or actually trying to normalise bigotry and racism
     
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    Haha, didn’t notice that ! I know the DT is a massive supporter of Brexit but there’s exaggerations and theres exaggerations !!!

    Seriously though, just trying to bring a balanced view to the argument. It’s not an insignificant figure when our borrowing has just increased again

    Ps knew you’d be a secret DT subscriber !!!
     
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    So you accuse me of burying my head in the sand but didn't answer the question.

    What do they count as a major currency? I just read the article. It doesn't say what your other post did that I replied to.

    So what am I burying my head for?
     
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    The currencies are the G10 currencies. The Metro references Bloomberg, which says it’s based upon the G10 ones.

    After a strong start to the year, the pound is the worst performer in the Group-of-10 in recent months and is at the lowest ever for this time of year.

    Where are the lies in the articles?
     
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    The funny thing is you seem to think currency devaluation is a bad thing but it’s the one thing that has led to German prosperity in the last 25 years
     
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    Yeah it’s great when the country imports a lot more than it exports, isn’t it?

    We’ve seen with a lot of the rich Brexiteers that this is what they like so much about Brexit though. It does very little to help the poorest who have to make up for devaluation through paying increased prices on imports.

    As you well know as well, the German and UK economies are very different.
     
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    So what are the G 10 currencies? Not which are they. Why do you call them the biggest currencies?

    Look at your list of what they are and tell me they are the biggest with honesty. You can't if you are being truthful. It is just a grouping.
     
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    It’s irrelevant anyway.
     
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    No it isn't.

    It was stated what the 10 biggest currencies are. They are not the 10 biggest currencies. They are a group of 10 currencies put together but nobody is sure why they are.

    Yes the £ is down. That is what is keeping the UK strong. The € is down. That is what is keeping Germany out of recession. China keeps their currency low to give them an advantage. Yet he makes out that Denmark has one of the biggest currencies in the world. And countries like China don't make his list. But he still tells me I am wrong.
     
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    Hahaha bullshit.

    You ‘seen’ what coming earlier this year?
    The fact that at very best you might have an extra 3% or 4% to spend on your summer holiday?

    After all, GBP is at the same level vs the EUR and 4 cents off the USD rate it was on 1st Jan.

    ‘I had the good sense to change a shit load’. Love it, classic David Brent.

    Have a great holiday, where are you going?
     
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    So which currencies do you believe are bigger?
     
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    The £ is the lowest against the € for 6 months. So if bought at the start of the year it was even lower. Just had to look at the post you quoted. No surprise there.
     
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    Bigger than Denmark?

    China?

    Don't even have to do any research.
     
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    And how’s the pound been performing against the Yuan?

    I’m not sure why you have such an issue to admit that the threat of a no deal Brexit has had a negative impact all round on the pound recently?
     
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    The Yuan is down as usual.

    But of course you are now changing the subject as you can't say tat the G10 are the biggest as you make out. How many are bigger than the Chinese currency?
     
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    I’m not changing subject. How’s the pound been performing vs the Yuan since the threat of a no deal has been further amplified?
     
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    I didn’t make out they were biggest, the article also labeled them ‘major currencies’
     
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    £1 bought you 1.11 euros on 1st Jan and 1.11euros yesterday, having been around 1.14-1.17 in the Spring.
     
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    Bring on no deal and parity! Its great that so many are happy for this to happen, cheers guys.
     
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    Not many want No Deal, just a deal that can get through parliament and that’s acceptable to the public

    I still hope that replacing the backstop with an alternative mechanism (I’ve always said any backstop/trade deal should tie in a significant proportion of the ‘divorce bill’, that way there are incentives on both sides to reach a fair free trade agreement asap) will be sufficient to get the withdrawal agreement through and we can all move on....for at least a short time anyway !!
     
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