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The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (11 Viewers)

  • Thread starter jimmyhillsfanclub
  • Start date Jun 8, 2016
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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,151
skybluetony176 said:
It was just a hake filled rant.

I think all the attention has gone to Boris’ head and he’s developed a cod complex.
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This is not the plaice for that and you're skateing on thin ice cushions.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,152
martcov said:
London remains a safe haven for the world’s dirty cash | Simon Jenkins
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I said fact
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,153
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
It has been argued one of the main reasons a number of wealthy individuals, financiers etc back Brexit is because the EU wants to bring in tougher independent regulation of financial services. That doesn't suit them as it shines a light on their activities.

People like JRM want self-regulation so essentially no-one can look at what they're doing and if there are calls of impropriety the people conducting the investigation will be themselves. So a "nothing to see here, guv" attitude.
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Of course, of course with the scrutiny in Mr Junker and his specific back yard
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,154
martcov said:
Trump insists that Germany increases military spending on NATO. So it has chosen to spend less, but is under pressure to rearm from the USA. Seeing as Germany is not in the slightest interested in going to war, I don’t get what you have to worry about.
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I'm not worried currently. I haven't been for a long time. That doesn't mean we should be complacent.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,155
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I'm not worried currently. I haven't been for a long time. That doesn't mean we should be complacent.
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Also who would be funding an Eu army I wonder? Estonia?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,156
Grendel said:
Of course, of course with the scrutiny in Mr Junker and his specific back yard
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I’m sure that you’ll be outraged when the UK doesn’t introduce its own equivalent laws.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,157
Not sure how this story went by so quietly Reporter who Boris Johnson conspired to have beaten up demands apology
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,158
Grendel said:
Also who would be funding an Eu army I wonder? Estonia?
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On it’s own?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,159
Grendel said:
I said fact
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Again. The fact that we’ve had to create the unexplained wealth order.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,160
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I'm not worried currently. I haven't been for a long time. That doesn't mean we should be complacent.
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I’m more concerned about Trump misjudging a situation.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,161
Sick Boy said:
I’m sure that you’ll be outraged when the UK doesn’t introduce its own equivalent laws.
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Europe of course introduced much legislation to look like it has a veneer if respectability and then conveniently ignores them
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,162
skybluetony176 said:
Not sure how this story went by so quietly Reporter who Boris Johnson conspired to have beaten up demands apology
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I’ve seen it many times
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,163
martcov said:
I’m more concerned about Trump misjudging a situation.
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What? Trump has a very passive foreign policy even compared to Obama
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,164
Grendel said:
Europe of course introduced much legislation to look like it has a veneer if respectability and then conveniently ignores them
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I await your outrage when the UK fails to introduce anything. Or perhaps not.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,165
Sajid Javid praising BXP and Farage.

Early GE with a pact then.

Democracy folks!
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,166
Sick Boy said:
I await your outrage when the UK fails to introduce anything. Or perhaps not.
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The notion the uk if leaving the Eu will suddenly become a banana republic is rather silly don’t you think?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,167
Grendel said:
The notion the uk if leaving the Eu will suddenly become a banana republic is rather silly don’t you think?
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That has nothing whatsoever with what I said. Actually, with Johnson in charge, who knows what will happen.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,168
Sick Boy said:
That has nothing whatsoever with what I said. Actually, with Johnson in charge, who knows what will happen.
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I think at least there is a chance Johnson will deliver Brexit
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,169
Grendel said:
The notion the uk if leaving the Eu will suddenly become a banana republic is rather silly don’t you think?
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What do you think our economic policy will be?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,170
shmmeee said:
What do you think our economic policy will be?
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Regarding what exactly?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,171
Grendel said:
Europe of course introduced much legislation to look like it has a veneer if respectability and then conveniently ignores them
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Unacceptable, but it's not like Britain has never done the same.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,172
Grendel said:
I think at least there is a chance Johnson will deliver Brexit
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If I were a leaver I wouldn’t be happy. I actually think with him in charge there’s even less chance of it happening.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,173
Sick Boy said:
If I were a leaver I wouldn’t be happy. I actually with him in charge there’s even less chance of it happening.
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I don’t - he will present a May type deal say it’s all his own and I think it will get through especially as 40 or so labour voters are likely to go for that type of arrangement
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,174
martcov said:
I’m more concerned about Trump misjudging a situation.
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I don't disagree with that one little bit. I thought he'd have been shot by now.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,175
Sick Boy said:
If I were a leaver I wouldn’t be happy. I actually with him in charge there’s even less chance of it happening.
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In which case you must be elated. I don't think leavers have any less faith in him than anyone else.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,176
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I don't disagree with that one little bit. I thought he'd have been shot by now.
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Is there a bullet that would penetrate the blubber?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,177
Grendel said:
Regarding what exactly?
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The economy.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,178
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
In which case you must be elated. I don't think leavers have any less faith in him than anyone else.
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In Boris?



Polls show Leavers are a lot bigger Boris fans than non Leavers.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,179
Grendel said:
Regarding what exactly?
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In general. What’s the plan? Major investment in infrastructure? Tax haven? Financial services?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,180
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I don't disagree with that one little bit. I thought he'd have been shot by now.
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He looked uncomfortable the other day with the monster he’s been creating. I dare say that if he gets a second term he’ll prove not to be extreme enough for said monster and one of the nutters he’s been grooming will do it.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,181
skybluetony176 said:
He looked uncomfortable the other day with the monster he’s been creating. I dare say that if he gets a second term he’ll prove not to be extreme enough for said monster and one of the nutters he’s been grooming will do it .
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Always happens with populism. You feed the beast or it feeds on you.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,182
shmmeee said:
In general. What’s the plan? Major investment in infrastructure? Tax haven? Financial services?
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Given that we will have a Brexit arrangement that is hardly any different to what we have now and be tied to Eu legislation for several years I’m not sure what you mean. I doubt we will follow Mr Junkers little Duchy regarding tax status.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,183
shmmeee said:
In Boris?

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Polls show Leavers are a lot bigger Boris fans than non Leavers.
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Hardly a surprise.

Let’s be honest the one thing Johnson is voted in for is to get Brexit done.

If that’s delivered the Brexit party vanishes and crucially labour having publicly declared (sort of as the great leader agrees with Johnson really) that they will campaign for remain will have nowhere to go. Corbyn is drastically on the wane - peak Corbyn is long long gone.

So it’s a means to an end. Deliver the result get an election done which will move Corbyn out and labour back to a minority opposition and that’s it job done.

Johnson is tommy cooper. It’s all a bad magic act - everything is false but it’s all done to get a result - which if he gets a Brexit if sorts done he will achieve
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,184
shmmeee said:
In Boris?

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Polls show Leavers are a lot bigger Boris fans than non Leavers.
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Which is not surprising really.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 19, 2019
  • #38,185
Grendel said:
I don’t - he will present a May type deal say it’s all his own and I think it will get through especially as 40 or so labour voters are likely to go for that type of arrangement
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He’s come out with so much now that he would look an even bigger fool to present a May type deal. With him in charge there’s even more chance of no Brexit at all. However, it’s already been established that the cult of Brexit is greater for some than that the prosperity of the country,so who knows what will happen.
 
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