Non AMP
Sky Blues Talk
  • Home
  • Forums
  • General Discussion
  • Off Topic Chat
This is a mobile optimized page that loads fast, if you want to load the real page, click this text.

The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (4 Viewers)

  • Thread starter jimmyhillsfanclub
  • Start date Jun 8, 2016
Forums New posts

As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
Prev
  • 1
  • …
  • 1046
  • 1047
  • 1048
  • 1049
  • 1050
  • …
  • 1484
Next
First Prev 1048 of 1484 Next Last

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,646
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
But doesn't that prove his point? If leave cared so much they'd have gone out and voted Brexit if for no other reason than to make their point they want to leave? Leave not turning out would also support the swing towards Remain parties from the established two being three times greater than those moving towards Leave parties.
Click to expand...

This thread is indesputable evidence that remain voters are absolutely deluded... Go back and listen to yourselves.
Might take a few weeks because it's a fecking huge thread but seriously get a bastard grip
 

dutchman

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,647
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
But doesn't that prove his point? If leave cared so much they'd have gone out and voted Brexit if for no other reason than to make their point they want to leave?
Click to expand...

Perhaps they were under the impression Britain was already leaving or perhaps they felt their vote would be totally ignored, like it was after the referendum.
 
Reactions: Ashdown
A

Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,648
I think if we did have a GE soon we would have an 8 way split with Bre, Tories, Lab ,Green and LD's all grabbing a fair share of the vote for different reasons with the SNP and the Irish making up the numbers. Not sure how that would solve the EU issue. Can't they just half our contributions and put stricter regulations on free movement and most would be happier to stay I?!
 
D

Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,649
Loving the desperation from some righties.

lol
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,650
Deleted member 5849 said:
Loving the desperation from some righties.

lol
Click to expand...

Hard for the left to be desperate to be fair, you dont have the testosterone levels to feel actual emotions

Ouch
 
D

djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,651
Evo1883 said:
Hard for the left to be desperate to be fair, you dont have the testosterone levels to feel actual emotions

Ouch
Click to expand...

What a ridiculous comment


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,652
djr8369 said:
What a ridiculous comment


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

Not really, most are absolute drips
 
D

djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,653
dutchman said:
Perhaps they were under the impression Britain was already leaving or perhaps they felt their vote would be totally ignored, like it was after the referendum.
Click to expand...

How has it been ignored? All we’ve done the last 2.5 years is focus on Brexit.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
Reactions: oakey
D

djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,654
Evo1883 said:
Not really, most are absolute drips
Click to expand...

People are trying to have a debate with you. At least do them the justice of taking part rather than posting nonsense. No wonder the country is so fragmented if all you can do is throw around insults.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,655
djr8369 said:
People are trying to have a debate with you. At least do them the justice of taking part rather than posting nonsense. No wonder the country is so fragmented if all you can do is throw around insults.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

Apologies, I replied to a sarcy comment with a sarcy reply.

Just banter

As you were
 

tisza

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,656
Grendel said:
Mart is one whose dribbling about low turnouts distorting the result not me
Click to expand...
Turnout roughly same as last 4 elections.
Pattern remains general indifference with eu elections. Remain failed to mobilize vote potential yet again. Brexit parties held roughly levels.
Lack of campaign time assisted Farage also.
People trying to extrapolate results into a GE wasting time as way too many variables.
 
Reactions: Ian1779

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,657
dutchman said:
This is for Sick Boy

Click to expand...

And the PD have had a resurgence
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,658
Mucca Mad Boys said:
For anyone debating whether Leave or Remain ‘won’ last night... it was a draw. We’ll see what happens from now from Lab and Con, but you’ll think their positions will become more polarised now too.

At a guess, you’d think we’re heading for a no deal or a second referendum now.
Click to expand...

The turnout suggests it was only those who feel passionately on both sides.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,659
Ashdown said:
I think if we did have a GE soon we would have an 8 way split with Bre, Tories, Lab ,Green and LD's all grabbing a fair share of the vote for different reasons with the SNP and the Irish making up the numbers. Not sure how that would solve the EU issue. Can't they just half our contributions and put stricter regulations on free movement and most would be happier to stay I?!
Click to expand...

The country has always chosen not to enforce tighter regulations available to it. Like producing a work contract and earning a certain amount to qualify for healthcare and wider services.
 
A

Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,660
Sick Boy said:
The country has always chosen not to enforce tighter regulations available to it. Like producing a work contract and earning a certain amount to qualify for healthcare and wider services.
Click to expand...
If those sorts of things were in place then I doubt we would be stuck in this mess because migration would be under control, our welfare state and NHS protected from people who don't contribute enough. The money sent to the EU should have been justified better, a programme of explanation and perspective to show it in relation to overall government budget would have helped. I still blame the morons like Cameron, Osborne, Blair, Mark Carney and others who rather than threaten and mock the people and their opponents should have had some sympathy with prevalent issues but instead they antagonised the public who were already sick of the political classes anyway and encouraged rebellion.
It was the very forces fighting for Remain that caused Leave !
As I've posted earlier I didn't vote, I'm sick of the lot of them !
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,661
Grendel said:
How can a second referendum get through parliament?
Click to expand...

At the minute, nothing can get through Parliament. Including a no-deal and something has got to give somewhere. MPs would prefer a second referendum to a no deal Brexit.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,662
Mucca Mad Boys said:
At the minute, nothing can get through Parliament. Including a no-deal and something has got to give somewhere. MPs would prefer a second referendum to a no deal Brexit.
Click to expand...

Of course a no deal will get through parliament as the time limit will be the only option available
 
D

djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,663
Mucca Mad Boys said:
At the minute, nothing can get through Parliament. Including a no-deal and something has got to give somewhere. MPs would prefer a second referendum to a no deal Brexit.
Click to expand...

I think it’s going to come down to the next Tory leader having 3 choices, no deal, 2nd ref or revoke with aim of negotiating a new deal after dropping the red lines.

Can’t help but think a 2nd ref will solve nothing though unless it has multiple options with a preference for different scenarios.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

dutchman

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,664
djr8369 said:
How has it been ignored? All we’ve done the last 2.5 years is focus on Brexit.
Click to expand...

Britain is no closer to leaving the EU now than it was two years and eleven months ago when people voted to leave.
 
Reactions: Astute
S

SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,665
Grendel said:
Mart is one whose dribbling about low turnouts distorting the result not me
Click to expand...
If he is still he needs to remember the same arguments applied to the 1975 vote would have meant we wouldn't have even been in the EU in the first place!

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
 
D

djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,666
dutchman said:
Britain is no closer to leaving the EU now than it was two years and eleven months ago when people voted to leave.
Click to expand...

Not true. Article 50 was passed, withdrawal agreement negotiated and some no deal prep has been done.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,667
Has Ben been elected?

Irish election candidate Ben Gilroy stars in bizarre campaign video
 
T

The Lurker

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,668
Deleted member 5849 said:
Loving the desperation from some righties.

lol
Click to expand...

why?

If the eu elections 2019 ⁠had been a general election the result would be:


Brexit: 446 seats

Labour: 93 seats

SNP: 56 seats

Lib: 31 seats

Plaid: 5 seats

Green: 1 seat

Conservative: 0 seats


Brexit Party majority 242!
 
T

The Lurker

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,669
djr8369 said:
Not true. Article 50 was passed, withdrawal agreement negotiated and some no deal prep has been done.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

a 50 was only in name and nothing else
 
S

SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,670
The Lurker said:
why?

If the eu elections 2019 ⁠had been a general election the result would be:


Brexit: 446 seats

Labour: 93 seats

SNP: 56 seats

Lib: 31 seats

Plaid: 5 seats

Green: 1 seat

Conservative: 0 seats


Brexit Party majority 242!
Click to expand...
Where do you get those numbers from?

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,671
Evo1883 said:
This thread is indesputable evidence that remain voters are absolutely deluded... Go back and listen to yourselves.
Might take a few weeks because it's a fecking huge thread but seriously get a bastard grip
Click to expand...

Martcov: Bollocks! Angry people vote. Brexit parties got 5 more seats than 2014, remain got 20 more than 2014. Remain are angrier. Most people don’t want the snake oil salesman and charlatan as leader.

Evo1883:No the fact is turnout in leave voting areas was down.
That's not me making it up thats FACT

This is why I said your point on leave turnout being down proved his point.

He asserted that remain are angrier and angry people vote. You pointed out that turnout in leave voting areas was down, hence therefore more leavers didn't bother to vote.

Now maybe they didn't vote as a protest or whatever, but for me if I'd voted leave and still hadn't I'd be down that polling both to vote for a pro-Brexit party to show my anger that we hadn't yet left.

I also said that's possibly why the move towards pro Brexit was three times less than that towards pro Remain - voters didn't turn out. This is me stating the percentage swing figures may not truly reflect the feelings of the country re Brexit because remain voters went out and voted and leave didn't.
 
D

djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,672
The Lurker said:
a 50 was only in name and nothing else
Click to expand...

Not at all. Leaving is now the legal default unless we negotiate an extension.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,673
Let’s be honest all Farage has to do is tell chameleon Cabke he can have a seat on his top table and a ministerial salary and old Vince will drop his trousers and campaign to leave

The Lib dems are the grubbiest most dishonest bunch of charlatans in Westminster
 
Reactions: Kingokings204
T

The Lurker

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,674
SkyblueBazza said:
Where do you get those numbers from?

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

European Parliament elections, 2019
 
T

The Lurker

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,675
djr8369 said:
Not at all. Leaving is now the legal default unless we negotiate an extension.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

you taking the mick? what happened on the 29th march? we were told numerous times we would leave but didn’t
 
D

djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,676
The Lurker said:
you taking the mick? what happened on the 29th march? we were told numerous times we would leave but didn’t
Click to expand...

Yes because we negotiated an extension. Leaving is still the legal position though. In fact we would have left already if only the ERG had voted for the withdrawal agreement.

Yes we were told we would leave but the issue there is politicians making claims they can’t back up.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,677
SkyblueBazza said:
Where do you get those numbers from?

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
The Lurker said:
why?

If the eu elections 2019 ⁠had been a general election the result would be:


Brexit: 446 seats

Labour: 93 seats

SNP: 56 seats

Lib: 31 seats

Plaid: 5 seats

Green: 1 seat

Conservative: 0 seats


Brexit Party majority 242!
Click to expand...

But they don't use the same constituency boundaries. And even though the map is pretty much totally coloured Brexit to believe that a GE would have the same result you're in a fantasy land.

If you don't believe me look at the previous EU elections and the performance of UKIP. Then look at the GE the year after (or 2017) and see the massive difference.



 
Last edited: May 27, 2019
S

SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,678
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
But they don't use the same constituency boundaries. And even though the map is pretty much totally coloured Brexit to believe that a GE would have the same result you're in a fantasy land.

If you don't believe me look at the previous EU elections and the performance of UKIP. Then look at the GE the year after (or 2017) and see the massive difference.



Click to expand...
I certainly agree that GE would make for a different outcome. Farage has made his point & should pursue only Brexit. THAT by my interpretation seems to be what the country wants.

His other policies would I suspect divide opinion among Brexit supporters far more & people would either not vote or revert to their 'safe' ground on the ballot paper.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
 

dutchman

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,679
djr8369 said:
Not at all. Leaving is now the legal default unless we negotiate an extension.
Click to expand...

ANOTHER extension you mean.

And Article 50 can be revoked at any time and probably will.
 
D

djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2019
  • #36,680
SkyblueBazza said:
I certainly agree that GE would make for a different outcome. Farage has made his point & should pursue only Brexit. THAT by my interpretation seems to be what the country wants.

His other policies would I suspect divide opinion among Brexit supporters far more & people would either not vote or revert to their 'safe' ground on the ballot paper.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

It will be interesting to see what policies he comes out with.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
Prev
  • 1
  • …
  • 1046
  • 1047
  • 1048
  • 1049
  • 1050
  • …
  • 1484
Next
First Prev 1048 of 1484 Next Last
You must log in or register to reply here.

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 3 (members: 0, guests: 3)
Share:
Facebook Twitter Reddit Pinterest Tumblr WhatsApp Email
  • Home
  • Forums
  • General Discussion
  • Off Topic Chat
  • Default Style
  • Contact us
  • Terms and rules
  • Privacy policy
  • Help
  • Home
Community platform by XenForo® © 2010-2021 XenForo Ltd.
Menu
Log in

Register

  • Home
  • Forums
    • New posts
    • Search forums
  • What's new
    • New posts
    • Latest activity
  • Members
    • Current visitors
  • Donate to the Season Ticket Fund
X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?

X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?