Astute
Well-Known Member
If you count Farage as a dictatorship what do you call breaking laws, rules and regulations to put who you want in a very strong position?
Of course you don't. You also don't know the meaning of honesty on this thread.
If you count Farage as a dictatorship what do you call breaking laws, rules and regulations to put who you want in a very strong position?No comparison. A dictatorship in a political party likely to win the British part of the EU elections, against a dispute into the appointment of a top civil servant who cannot legislate.
The Selmayr dispute has been postponed until after the EU elections as no one knows who he will be answerable to after October. Pointless changing the head of the civil service today, and then again tomorrow. Wait and see.
You can't get rid of Selmayr because of his position. It is a job for life. The only person that can take his job away is Selmayr. As you know he shouldn't have got it. But he did.I have never defended him or his appointment. I have just quoted the facts in the 2 ombudsman reports. I still am sticking to the facts. One of which is that Selmayr is an employee and you cannot just sack him without a legal reason. The only people who could do that ( sack him ) are his employers. The EC. They are waiting until a new President of the EC is appointed after the elections.
He can't be removed from his position. And you know that.Nothing unusual there. I said he should resign in the interests of transparency. He didn’t and he won’t be removed until after the elections. If at all.
He can't be removed from his position. And you know that.
You can't get rid of Selmayr because of his position. It is a job for life. The only person that can take his job away is Selmayr. As you know he shouldn't have got it. But he did.
That is what a dictatorship looks like.
Or would you like to call that a lie?
If you count Farage as a dictatorship what do you call breaking laws, rules and regulations to put who you want in a very strong position?
Of course you don't. You also don't know the meaning of honesty on this thread.
He can't be removed from his position. And you know that.
Well it wasn’t actually but it’s interesting you find that anyone who wants to leave a federal states of Europe controlled through a federal bank which is controlled by Germany to be a nazi policy
Is Greenland a nazi state?
If you count Farage as a dictatorship what do you call breaking laws, rules and regulations to put who you want in a very strong position?
Of course you don't. You also don't know the meaning of honesty on this thread.
Time for the men in white coats again for Mart - nurse the screens, the screens!
Doesn't it?
The only reason was so that the EU would look transparent. But once he noticed it wouldn't happen he defended him again.
But you know this.
Correct. But in the opposite way you make out.I know the meaning of honesty and you twistings things around. Selmayr did not create the civil service, put himself at it's head and appoint a board answerable to him that he could fire on the spot at the slightest hint of rebellion. The comparison between the two is absolutely ridiculous.
You may never wake upWe left yet ?
Wake me up when it’s over
When I criticised Farage it got ignored by you and your followers like Mart. When I made other comments like thinking Farage might start up another party if Brexit doesn't happen you took the piss.Do I? I don’t really follow your arguments most of the time to be honest. I was just pointing out you’d contradicted yourself. Anyway, there’s nothing stopping you from criticising both of them, is there?
Wake you up in 2021 :woot:We left yet ?
Wake me up when it’s over
When I criticised Farage it got ignored by you and your followers like Mart. When I made other comments like thinking Farage might start up another party if Brexit doesn't happen you took the piss.
Yes it is a waste of time trying to have a debate on here. You are supposed to defend one side and constantly attack the other. It is an absolute joke.
You told me Farage was irrelevant. He has now formed a party with an undemocratic constitution which is a „Führerprinzip“ set up. He won’t tell you what his manifesto is until after you have voted for him.
He is roaring away with loads of free publicity from major media sources.
I point this bizarre situation out and your, somewhat predictable, answer is: Selmayr.
His candidate for NW England refused to condemn the IRA bombing in Warrington saying the IRA has the right to use all means possible to defend themselves. Those days she was a revolutionary communist. Now Brexit Party.
So you don’t think politicians who refuse to condemn the IRA should stand for public office?
No, I think the Brexit Party is anti democratic and hypocritical.
Then he will be exposed at the ballot box if you are correct - why mention the IRA at all
When I criticised Farage it got ignored by you and your followers like Mart. When I made other comments like thinking Farage might start up another party if Brexit doesn't happen you took the piss.
Yes it is a waste of time trying to have a debate on here. You are supposed to defend one side and constantly attack the other. It is an absolute joke.
He won’t be exposed by the ballot box. He will be exposed by what happens when he has your vote. There are probably good reasons for not announcing his manifesto. No one can attack him on that for a start. Corbyn comes under attack from the right for his links to the IRA in the past. It is hypocritical to put up a candidate that was a revolutionary communist and IRA supporter. Many people won’t even realise that and throw their vote away by voting for the Brexit Party. A con.
Why do you say Jeremy Corbyn is attacked by the right when all sides including many in his own party have repeatedly condemned him?
Your argument is even more bonkers than normal. Many voters - including you - would support a far right pro austerity politician merely on through basis she adores the Brussels gravy train. It’s not hypocritical to support her and her pathetic bunch of losers that will get pummelled at the ballot box.
Why do you say Jeremy Corbyn is attacked by the right when all sides including many in his own party have repeatedly condemned him?
Your argument is even more bonkers than normal. Many voters - including you - would support a far right pro austerity politician merely on through basis she adores the Brussels gravy train. It’s not hypocritical to support her and her pathetic bunch of losers that will get pummelled at the ballot box.
You have scarcely touched on my argument. Farage spouts on about democracy. Farage forms a „Führerprinzip“ undemocratic party. All those who registered with him, and paid, are registered voters and have no rights in his party. Farage says the EU is not transparent and then refuses to say what will be in his manifesto until after you have voted for his party.
Total hypocrisy. You ignore that.
A separate point is that Farage is always quoting the war, patriotism and military comparisons, and then allows an apologist for the IRA to stand as an MEP. More rabid hypocrisy. Your deflection: well Corbyn is criticised for talking to the IRA as well. So what? That has nothing to do with the hypocrisy of Farage and his supporters. a) he didn’t excuse the Warrington bombing and b) the right like to pull out his association with IRA much more than the left.
My deflection? You mentioned the IRA as a point of condemnation
I don’t need to deflect - I’ve already said if the monster loony party existed still I’d vote for tarquin flambwit biscuit barrel but as they are not Nigel will do
You're in luck, no need to vote Nige.I’ve already said if the monster loony party existed
No, I think the Brexit Party is anti democratic and hypocritical.
Priceless
The only hypocrisy on this page is you, the ultimate EU-extremist, claiming you’re concerned about a political party being anti-democratic.
I see JLR are getting into the Dyson brexit spirit and brexiting the new defender production line to Slovenia. Real shame both from a safeguarding and creating new jobs in the U.K. but also from a historical point of view as production of this model in it’s original guise at Solihull is where Land Rover began.
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