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Nick · Jul 21, 2018

SBT said:
I don't work for the Telegraph if that's what you mean. Believe it or not, people can have a different opinion to you without having a vested interest!

If the Telegraph isn't doing all that stuff, then who is? Genuine question. The BBC, I guess (they've published a grand total of four stories about CCFC this month, all based off club press releases).

That's a fun idea you have for Andy Turner to go freelance. Which news organization do you think is willing to pay him for daily CCFC coverage? Or maybe we can give him a totally different beat like the Beeb did with Simon Gilbert and hope he does CCFC stories in his spare time.

You're not getting it with the Chaplin story. I don't care that the CT got the story from another source. I care that they bought it to my attention so that I didn't have to trawl local Portsmouth news, or CCFC message boards in order to find it. That's local journalism 101. And like I said, I'm grateful for it.

So you don't want to trawl message boards for news (understandable) but you seem to trawl message boards for things being said about the local news paper?

Do you actually thing the telegraph are doing all the things you mention or again don't you realise they are just copy and pasting it? (Andy does do his own match reports and live text)

If you just want copy and paste news aggregators stick the ccfc news now bookmark in and you will get it faster.

Kev Monks does pretty much the same thing as the telegraph in re hashing the news. He just does it once and doesn't clickbait the crap out of it.

Nick · Jul 21, 2018

Otis said:
Yep, my parents still get the CT everyday. Tells you what's going on in the city, the progress of all the building works and any new ventures and restaurants, bars, clubs and cafes springing up, plus of course stuff about the City and Cov rugby too.

To be fair im on about the ccfc side of it, in terms of other news there isn't really any other option.

SBT · Jul 21, 2018

Nick said:
So you don't want to trawl message boards for news (understandable) but you seem to trawl message boards for things being said about the local news paper

I don't

Nick said:
Do you actually thing the telegraph are doing all the things you mention or again don't you realise they are just copy and pasting it?

I do

Nick said:
Kev Monks does pretty much the same thing as the telegraph in re hashing the news. He just does it once and doesn't clickbait the crap out of it

If you genuinely think the best way for ordinary City fans to stay engaged with their club is through Kev Monks, then god help us, you crazy bastard.

Otis · Jul 21, 2018

Nick said:
To be fair im on about the ccfc side of it, in terms of other news there isn't really any other option.

Yeah, agree, I do quite like it for some City stuff though. There is always the match report, usually an opposition report, Jim Brown's bit and some other stuff.

Have to say, I do skip past numerous pages though for sure.

Nick · Jul 21, 2018

Ah so it looks like it's you who doesnt know what's actually being done then (after trying to patronise).

If you don't want to trawl forums for ccfc news, why are you always quick to jump in if the telegraph are mentioned on a forum?

Where did I say everybody could rely on cov mad for news about ccfc, I just said he does the same thing as the telegraph in rehashing but obviously not to the same extent.

Otis · Jul 21, 2018

There is a bit of half decent CCFC stuff, though we can of course get that online.

This is a CT Andy Turner piece from today.

'It didn’t work today' - Mark Robins reflects on Coventry City defeat

Otis · Jul 21, 2018

Though I do quite often find his player ratings quite bizarre.

Here's his ratings from today also.

Coventry City player ratings: The good and bad against Stevenage

ccfcricoh · Jul 23, 2018

Man uses local newspaper for local news updates...causes outrage!

clint van damme · Jul 23, 2018

ccfcricoh said:
Man uses local newspaper for local news updates...causes outrage!

expect that to be a CET headline within the next week.

oucho · Jul 25, 2018

skyblue93 said:
There's a big difference between a 'Sports Journalist' and an 'Online Writer' that creates content for the website. Andy Turner is a journalist, it's his job to go out and get the interviews, work his sources for scoops, and find out what's going on behind the scenes. I would say that every other sports writer there are content aggregators - it's their jobs to get clicks and these websites take that by any means possible - which means clickbait, shitty headlines, writing up fan tweets, combing forums etc.

skyblue93 said:
It is a shame. I work for a sports website and over the past couple years we've done as much as possible to turn away from clickbait and get clicks the right way. When even a place like SportBible is less clickbaity than you then you know something's wrong.

Very decent summary. I do not like to moan unduly about the CT but it has reached the point of being truly embarrassing as a website. Headlines like "This is what Mark Robins said after Barnet win" and "This is how many Coventry fans travelled to Morecambe" and "This the referee for the friendly at Sutton" are cringeworthy.

I had thought a low point was 2 summers ago when the CT was doing nothing to come up with transfer news, and every day the headlines were along the lines of "Mark Venus happy to bide time over transfer targets" and "Mowbray confident of new signings as triallists join", but more recently we have reached a whole new level of barrel-scraping. You're right that the onus is on the reporters to find scoops using their network of contacts, not just regurgitate club PR, forum speculation and generic news found elsewhere. Unfortunately the CT has become prime clickbait churnalism for all things football-related. You're doing the right thin in your own career if you can get away from this approach; i see the need to drive advertising revenue but it's ultimately the road to ruin, as users will get fed up of the site and go elsewhere, which in it itself will reduce and ultimately destroy advertising income. I personally do not click on any of the CT stories with any such headlines, whereas even 3 years ago I read almost every single one. I have yet to come across another site even within the Trinity Mirror group that is as singularly laughable as the CT site; its standards are pathetic. Sad, really.

Captain Dart · Jul 25, 2018

I think they'll merge it with the Birmingham operation eventually.

I_Saw_Shaw_Score · Jul 25, 2018

But with proper journalism we wouldn’t get gold like this....

Live updates as Chelmsford dad refuses to leave toy store over refund

“Live updates”

Otis · Jul 25, 2018

I_Saw_Shaw_Score said:
But with proper journalism we wouldn’t get gold like this....

Live updates as Chelmsford dad refuses to leave toy store over refund

“Live updates”

Ha!, That is a classic though.

Quote from the store manager. 'I don't accept behaviour like that in my store. He made one of my members of staff go and hide in a cupboard.'

Brilliant!

Otis · Aug 23, 2018

Plans for mosque in Hillfields area of Coventry

Now that's what I call click bait.

The headline is 'Plans to build a new mosque in Coventry'.

You click on it and only then does it say 'have been rejected'.

That's like putting up a newspaper front page headline 'Donald Trump will be ousted from office.....

(Turn to page 2)

if he goes up for re-election and the other bloke gets more votes than him'.

PCH · Aug 23, 2018

Massive takeover planned for Coventry City

page 2
Sewerage Plant

Otis · Aug 23, 2018

'Man killed.....

.....two birds with one stone, when he decided to drop his laundry off and do his grocery shopping at the same time'.

Otis · Aug 23, 2018

'Woman survives deadly Indian floods .....

...by not being in the country at the time.'.

steveo1987 · Aug 23, 2018

Coventry City strong promotion favourites after revamping the line up with exciting new players and a dynamic new system

wingy · Aug 23, 2018

And 75 bleeding pence
Who would pay that? :'(

Otis · Aug 23, 2018

My mum and dad. They only buy it to check the obituaries to see if they have died yet though.

Ricketts · Aug 23, 2018

Otis said:
My mum and dad. They only buy it to check the obituaries to see if they have died yet though.

That made me chuckle. I'm sure there is an element of truth in it though.

sw88 · Aug 24, 2018

When did they close their comments section down? Finally notice that not many comments were positive nor productive?

chiefdave · Aug 24, 2018

sw88 said:
When did they close their comments section down? Finally notice that not many comments were positive nor productive?

When Gilbert left and took his multiple logins with him there was probably nobody left to comment!

Adge · Aug 25, 2018

Good for wrapping the chips in and that’s about it. Some of Turners guff that he turns out third hand is also laughable. Lets not forget also his “exclusives” that turn out not to be true.

oucho · Aug 25, 2018

Adge said:
Good for wrapping the chips in and that’s about it. Some of Turners guff that he turns out third hand is also laughable. Lets not forget also his “exclusives” that turn out not to be true.

Yes when he had an exclusive on who we had released and who we had retained and it turned out to be 50% wrong - same % as you'd get through sheer guesswork.

Otis said:
My mum and dad. They only buy it to check the obituaries to see if they have died yet though.

"I want to see who I've beaten"...said my granddad everytime he scanned the obituary section.

I_Saw_Shaw_Score said:
But with proper journalism we wouldn’t get gold like this....

Live updates as Chelmsford dad refuses to leave toy store over refund

“Live updates”

Jordan Willis recovers from knock.....live updates. Bad enough but then the updates are re-posted stories on Willis' previous injuries. a tweet from Dave in Bermuda who thinks Willis should be fit to play next week, then a summary followed by "that's all folks" and a link to "read the full story on our website" - when you click the link it asks you to fill in a survey to read the fucker......

OffenhamSkyBlue · Aug 28, 2018

Not related to CCFC, but this article Warwick Arts Centre appoints new director was posted on 22 August by their "Content Direct Editor". The original press release was made by the University on 26th July, and the content in the CovTel article is directly cut-and-pasted from the press release, with nothing added. Waste of everyone's time and effort!

Adge · Aug 28, 2018

Yep, just like Turners 2nd or 3rd hand garbage.

Captain Dart · Aug 28, 2018

Seen on latest CCFC article in CT... it wasn't me..

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We still value your honest and passionate opinions and would urge you to continue to have your say on our Coventry City Facebook page which can be found here .

Comments will be far easier for us to police and cannot be blocked or removed by fellow supporters. Only we will have the power to hide comments.

We would like to thank the majority of Sky Blues fans who have been using the comments section in a correct manner to have their say on their team and we hope you will continue to do so on our Facebook page.

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ajsccfc · Aug 28, 2018

Disabling comments is the best thing they've done in years, the majority of the internet should follow suit and go read-only.

ceetee · Aug 28, 2018

I think they closed their forum for the same reason, or they may have closed it to save money and that was their excuse.
It was difficult to post a reasoned argument on there without being accused of being pro-SISU
Looks as if the same ******ers just moved across

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 28, 2018

OffenhamSkyBlue said:
Not related to CCFC, but this article Warwick Arts Centre appoints new director was posted on 22 August by their "Content Direct Editor". The original press release was made by the University on 26th July, and the content in the CovTel article is directly cut-and-pasted from the press release, with nothing added. Waste of everyone's time and effort!

tbf not alone in that, and it's been going on for a fair few years.

Think my lowest point was when something I wrote was credited to the reporter... but they'd added in a few typos to differentiate it from the original release!

oucho · Aug 29, 2018

You do wonder whether it will still exist in its current form in 5 years' time.

All i see is them cutting costs to the absolute bone to minimise the losses whilst putting out an inferior product as a result, thus alienating readers which leads to a drop in asvertising and sales revunue, hence the need to costs more....and so it goes on....it's a death spiral. If things continue as they are the paper will just cease, certainly in printed form at least.

hill83 · Aug 29, 2018

oucho said:
You do wonder whether it will still exist in its current form in 5 years' time.

All i see is them cutting costs to the absolute bone to minimise the losses whilst putting out an inferior product as a result, thus alienating readers which leads to a drop in asvertising and sales revunue, hence the need to costs more....and so it goes on....it's a death spiral. If things continue as they are the paper will just cease, certainly in printed form at least.

I blame student accommodation and cathedral lanes.

chiefdave · Aug 29, 2018

oucho said:
You do wonder whether it will still exist in its current form in 5 years' time.

Think 5 years is optimistic. Its pretty much all done from Brum now, the amount of local content will steadily decrease.

Still think the decision to rebrand all their online presence is nuts. One of the few things they have is a recognisable name with a history, why would you bin that?

dutchman · Aug 29, 2018

ceetee said:
I think they closed their forum for the same reason, or they may have closed it to save money and that was their excuse.

It was closed because they ran out of unpaid 'volunteers' to run it.

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