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shmmeee

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #36
Deleted member 5849 said:
Wimbledon had less than zero cash and were still basically a non-league setup. Blackpool managed the rare achievement of having worse owners than us, yet despite that got promoted.
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Wimbledon was back when football was football though. So you’ve got to account for that. Before the Premier League fucked everything up for lower league clubs.

Both great achievements, don’t get me wrong, but I think if we went up this season (again: we won’t) then just the pace of our rise considering the cash spent and the increase in the gap to the top in the last decade would make it bigger.
 

David O'Day

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #37
Deleted member 5849 said:
They were a non league team less than 10 years before. That was unprecedented post-war, and unlike Wigan when they followed them a couple of decades later, they weren't bankrolled.
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We were 1 league above non league

Wimbledon did it at a time when the gulf between the PL and the rest or even the top end of the Championship and the rest wasn't so massive.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #38
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Huddersfield £11m:
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£11 million really is millions!
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #39
Sick Boy said:
Nonsense.
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About right from you.
 
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Deleted member 2477

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #40
Anyone remember Fisher publically stating we couldnt afford to be in the championship ?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #41
marcusp said:
Anyone remember Fisher publically stating we couldnt afford to be in the championship ?
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Yep but things change and it was in response to covering expenses to compete
 
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tomreagan84

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #42
SleepyGinger said:
Who’s playing Mark Robins?
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Mark and Adi
 

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Moff

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #43
marcusp said:
Anyone remember Fisher publically stating we couldnt afford to be in the championship ?
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Joys sold two handbags since, and bumped up the cash flow
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #44
marcusp said:
Anyone remember Fisher publically stating we couldnt afford to be in the championship ?
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Im sure when the accounts for season 1 are revealed no one will argue with him
 
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COV

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #45
Evo1883 said:
Doesn't really matter to be honest , we would have gone from league 2 to the Premier league spending probably less than 5 or 6 million in transfer fees .

Sheffield United or Huddersfield never did that

Far greater achievement
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Much bigger. But for whatever reason some people will never accept that what Robins has done is exceptional, no matter what he does
 
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theferret

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #46
Londonccfcfan said:
Shall I repeat myself?? Really don't think there s any need.
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But we'll turnover about £15 million this year, so our wage bill will be similar to that. Not sure if I'm missing the point though so forgive me..
 

COV

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #47
shmmeee said:
Wimbledon was back when football was football though. So you’ve got to account for that. Before the Premier League fucked everything up for lower league clubs.

Both great achievements, don’t get me wrong, but I think if we went up this season (again: we won’t) then just the pace of our rise considering the cash spent and the increase in the gap to the top in the last decade would make it bigger.
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Take a look at how many players have to be churned now compared to then for a good comparison- you didn’t really have to rebuild a team then as Robins has had to do on more than one occasion
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #48
COV said:
Much bigger. But for whatever reason some people will never accept that what Robins has done is exceptional, no matter what he does
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in league two Huddersfield started a season with 4 senior players and a youth team. In a decade they got to the premiership
 

COV

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #49
Grendel said:
in league two Huddersfield started a season with 4 senior players and a youth team. In a decade they got to the premiership
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And if Robins did somehow manage to get us up he’d have done it in 5
 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #50
COV said:
And if Robins did somehow manage to get us up he’d have done it in 5
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He also had the luxury of being able to finish in a top 7 to get promoted first time round. Comparisons to Wimbledon are dumb as.
 
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COV

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #51
Grendel said:
He also had the luxury of being able to finish in a top 7 to get promoted first time round. Comparisons to Wimbledon are dumb as.
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You just said Huddersfield?

Anyway no matter, he’s doing an exceptional job, anyone can see that.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #52
Grendel said:
He also had the luxury of being able to finish in a top 7 to get promoted first time round. Comparisons to Wimbledon are dumb as.
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Seriously are you genuinely saying if Robins got us up you wouldn’t think it was a huge achievement
 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #53
COV said:
You just said Huddersfield?

Anyway no matter, he’s doing an exceptional job, anyone can see that.
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I said Huddersfield and someone else said Wimbledon

Huddersfield got promoted on a similar budget to us and Blackpool got the top flight in about 9 seasons from being at the foot of league 2 with no pot to piss in
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #54
That Phoenix ain't on the shirt just to be a bra you know.
Get your money on it.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #55
Grendel said:
He also had the luxury of being able to finish in a top 7 to get promoted first time round. Comparisons to Wimbledon are dumb as.
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We finished 5th
 
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David O'Day

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #56
fernandopartridge said:
We finished 5th
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Never let facts get in the way of Grenners twaddle
 
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David O'Day

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #57
Question is boys, how fast would we get to the PL if Kenny Jackett was our manager
 

hill83

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #58
fernandopartridge said:
We finished 5th
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6th wasn’t it?

Your point stands anyway
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #59
torchomatic said:
I remember me and my mate leaving the ground after we'd beaten Stockport away 3-0, our first game since being relegated from the Prem, and thinking "we'll piss this league and be back up next year."

Twenty years later....

I certainly don't think we'll be going up this year, but we are closer than we have ever been in twenty years.
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01/02, 08/09 and even up to December in 10/11 we were very promisingly placed then blew it. Difference is we were not viewed as lower league guff trespassing on the grounds of the elites in Bournemouth
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #60
Deleted member 5849 said:
They were a non league team less than 10 years before. That was unprecedented post-war, and unlike Wigan when they followed them a couple of decades later, they weren't bankrolled.
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Agree Wimbledon is a great example. They were literally the crazy gang from management to players.
 

David O'Day

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #61
hill83 said:
6th wasn’t it?

Your point stands anyway
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Yeah because we drew that last game s we had to play County at home first just after that mad downpour
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #62
Grendel said:
He also had the luxury of being able to finish in a top 7 to get promoted first time round. Comparisons to Wimbledon are dumb as.
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And they didn't have to do it playing all of their home matches away from their home.
 

slowpoke

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #63
hill83 said:
6th wasn’t it?

Your point stands anyway
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It was level on points with Lincoln who were seventh
 

David O'Day

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #64
slowpoke said:
It was level on points with Lincoln who were seventh
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It was 6th on GD, the points doesn't really matter mate
 
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Ian1779

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #65
tomreagan84 said:
Mark and Adi
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At their next player unveiling…

 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #66
fernandopartridge said:
We finished 5th
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6th doesn't matter anyway , would still be better than Huddersfield and Blackpool too
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #67
David O'Day said:
It was 6th on GD, the points doesn't really matter mate
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Don't forget Biamou's goals didn't count, so we only won 2-1 in the second leg of the play off semi final.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #68
We are comparing an era when teams could go from winning the 2nd division to the European Cup in about 3 years because money was nowhere near as big an object as it is in today's game ..

No team in non league today could get to the top flight in decade ..

Not a single 1 without MILLIONS

It won't happen ever again , too many hurdles and would take decades in reality
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #69
Even if we did somehow fluke a prem return, grendel still wouldn't change his tune on Robins
 
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CDK

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  • Sep 14, 2021
  • #70
Well certain posters will always have a taxi for robins.
Personally he has achieved more than most managers on a shoe string on less comparable budget of Jimmy hill so he has to be at his level of ability ,if no,when ,cause it will happen the the premiership he will get us there I've no doubt about that.
Till then he's achieved 2promotions,3wembley appierences great football and think he's getting better year on year.
 
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