I said, it was about the gesture that was the issue because it was linked to BLM and that's how people perceive it now. Much like if I said I was saluting to remember something then people perceive it as the Nazis.
So again - if black players said they wanted to start each game with 10 seconds of silence to support No Room For Racism, you'd have no problem with that? It's important enough to you that you wouldn't jump in with the usual "they're ramming it down our throats/just going through the motions" stuff? (Which was a popular criticism of BLM long before any of this political bollocks)
You explain it because every club has racist pricks, and even racists can work out how to buy a season ticket. Difference for me is how widespread it is and the reaction. We've had issues in the past and when it has been mentioned on here that something has happened at a match, be it racism, homophobia or something else, the vast majority have said the person should be identified and banned.Oh spot on re Millwall; racists and wankers (nice analogy btw!). but can that explain Colchester, Exeter and Cambridge? And this is only with season ticket holders watching.
You explain it because every club has racist pricks, and even racists can work out how to buy a season ticket. Difference for me is how widespread it is and the reaction. We've had issues in the past and when it has been mentioned on here that something has happened at a match, be it racism, homophobia or something else, the vast majority have said the person should be identified and banned.
Not sure about Colchester, was that another one last night? But Exeter seems to have been one person who was ejected from the ground immediately and the club have said further action is pending. The booing at Cambridge seemed to be from a small number who were quickly drowned out by applause from other supporters. The Cambridge United manager described the fans booing as disgusting and an embarrassment and the club have said they are already identifying who it was and further action will be taken.
Compare that to Millwall. The club was clearly worried in advance it would happen hence the players statement. There seems to be little sign of other fans objecting to the booing, both at the match and online afterwards. Their players have now stopped taking the knee.
Find where I said any of those about BLM.
Warbuton was right when he said it was like clap for carers.
It has now got to the point where you have pricks like this on sky who don't realise it hasn't actually been happening in games make out it's a disgrace.
Now this silly bitch is back onto QPR.
No mention of 'it's too political' back in September - only that you didn't like the routine of it
Go before then about BLM and see me mention the politics. Same with threads about BLM and Sky about how it should be something separate from BLM.
You have quoted me mentioning Sky having a witchhunt when we hadn't taken the knee in the previous game either.
At least do a proper job.
Huh? I asked if you would complain about players protesting before every game becoming a routine, and you said you'd have no problem with it and have never complained about it. So what was your complaint about it becoming like the clap for carers? That it was a good cause, but you felt it had already run its course?
Pretty sure you can see the difference.
It's the same reason I wouldn't start something up called National Front or BNP.
Seriously, can people not grasp why there's so much confusion and why people might look at the founders of BLM in America and link things up etc? Instead of just calling everybody racist (not you btw) either educate them or change the gesture and start educating people as to why it's done and distance from the whole BLM stuff.
Not racist though, just hates Marxismjust looked at his timeline for the usual signs:
Anti muslim tweets - check
Retweets Tommy Robinson - check
Covid denier - check
US election conspiracy theorist - check
Not racist though, just hates Marxism
The majority of Tory donars are non doms or have tons of cash sat off shore legally avoiding tax in the U.K.. The House of Lords is full such characters and I dare say there’s more than a few in Parliament too. Sir Jackie Stewart also lives in a tax exile. But heavens forbid a black lad from a council estate should do it and still qualify for a knighthood.Plus Hamilton is in the top 5000 tax payers in this country.
Edit: Ah bollocks didn't see what thread this was. Fuck sake, back again.
Footballers suffer from dodgy knees in later life as it is. They really aren’t doing themselves any favours kneeling on a cold surfaceThey have to stop taking the knee now
The ground is all cold and it’s not fair on them, every body knows Marxism enters the body through a cold knee.
Snap! (And me ticker!)No one’s taking mine!
Actually someone has!
Trousers round your ankles, kleenex on the sideNo one’s taking mine!
Actually someone has!
Well I was very well “nursed”Trousers round your ankles, kleenex on the side
Hope your recovery is going well Houch.Snap! (And me ticker!)
Sometimes wish I'd never had it done! Still bloody painful after two years! Now my other knee is going the same way. That'll learn me not to play footy into my mid 40's!Hope your recovery is going well Houch.
I’m now 2 knees and 1 hip. Also probably caused by too much running when younger. First week down and starting to feel a little easier now. Not helped by my wife rushed to hospital with a suspected stroke ( thankfully just a massive blood pressure surge) so had to try and look after myself for 2days. Luckily ready meals in the fridge came to my aid. There’s not much left of my remaining hip but now reluctant to go through it all again.Sometimes wish I'd never had it done! Still bloody painful after two years! Now my other knee is going the same way. That'll learn me not to play footy into my mid 40's!
The bionic manI’m now 2 knees and 1 hip. Also probably caused by too much running when younger. First week down and starting to feel a little easier now. Not helped by my wife rushed to hospital with a suspected stroke ( thankfully just a massive blood pressure surge) so had to try and look after myself for 2days. Luckily ready meals in the fridge came to my aid. There’s not much left of my remaining hip but now reluctant to go through it all again.
Always interesting going through airport security.The bionic man
Bloody hell! Looks like we've both been going through the same thing! I'd only been out of hospital a few days, still on crutches, when my missus had a massive stroke! She spent the next 8 weeks in 3 different hospitals (Worcester Royal, Queen Elizabeth's and Evesham). Her mental state has suffered and I'm now her full time carer. Been a nightmare couple of years! How's your missus now? Is she okay? Just bless each day as it comes mate.I’m now 2 knees and 1 hip. Also probably caused by too much running when younger. First week down and starting to feel a little easier now. Not helped by my wife rushed to hospital with a suspected stroke ( thankfully just a massive blood pressure surge) so had to try and look after myself for 2days. Luckily ready meals in the fridge came to my aid. There’s not much left of my remaining hip but now reluctant to go through it all again.
Much better, BP back to normal but seems to have picked up some sort of infection when in hospital. She’s off to the surgery later this morning. Feel pretty useless as I’m not able to help. It’s shit getting old!Bloody hell! Looks like we've both been going through the same thing! I'd only been out of hospital a few days, still on crutches, when my missus had a massive stroke! She spent the next 8 weeks in 3 different hospitals (Worcester Royal, Queen Elizabeth's and Evesham). Her mental state has suffered and I'm now her full time carer. Been a nightmare couple of years! How's your missus now? Is she okay? Just bless each day as it comes mate.
I agree. I retired early due to health reasons. I'm coming up to 71 and get bored out of my skull some days. I can't even do voluntary work because I have to care for the missus. Still, keeping up with the City helps! Hopefully a good result tonight eh!Much better, BP back to normal but seems to have picked up some sort of infection when in hospital. She’s off to the surgery later this morning. Feel pretty useless as I’m not able to help. It’s shit getting old!
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