The injury was from playing football could easily have happened if he’d been onside it’s silly to equate the injury with an offside not given
There is an obvious player welfare issue here but it has nothing to do with VAR.If the clear offside was flagged and given then it doesn't happen. It wasn't one even a close one that they wanted to see what happened and then check.
There is an obvious player welfare issue here but it has nothing to do with VAR.
Those are the rules - it’s not up to the referee to ignore them just because there’s a chance a player might get injured in some hypothetical incident that follows.I didn't say it had?
I said it wasn't a tight offside call where they would let it play out and then check VAR. He was about 10 yards offside.
Good thing Grimes was flagged 10 yards onside yesterday I suppose
If that's what it was it shows you how farcical the offside rule (s) are now.Did he flag for Grimes or did he flag for EMC/Wright who was offside and blocked their defender running back?
Those are the rules - it’s not up to the referee to ignore them just because there’s a chance a player might get injured in some hypothetical incident that follows.
I would say the obvious scandal here is a player suffering an injury that ultimately requires hospital treatment staying on the field to play for a further 10 minutes without being subbed off.
That is the ruleYou’re right but you’ve missed the point. The rules should be changed so that match officials can give offsides where it’s obvious to the naked eye.
There’s been a few avoidable injuries that would’ve been prevented if the referees could flag up early where the player is offside. It’s common sense.
That is the rule
Or in other words, change the rules so they’re not applied consistently but subjectively?You’re right but you’ve missed the point. The rules should be changed so that match officials can give offsides where it’s obvious to the naked eye.
There’s been a few avoidable injuries that would’ve been prevented if the referees could flag up early where the player is offside. It’s common sense.
Or in other words, change the rules so they’re not applied consistently but subjectively?
I’ll say it again (and as someone who truly despises VAR) - the way this incident has been spun into an avoidable disaster caused by VAR is crazy, considering the player wasn’t even subbed off after suffering an injury that would end up putting him into a coma.
The whole purpose of VAR is to try and make sure that refs are consistent and get it right. The current guidance is not to put the flag up unless the linesman is certain it’s offside. If we want to make that even more subjective then I don’t see why we don’t just let the human refs handle everything and scrap VAR altogether but I’ve already lost that argument.The referees and linesmen can see when there’s daylight between the attacker and the defender. The whole purpose of VAR was to be a tool for when incidents were ‘clear and obvious’ rather than vice versa.
I don’t blame VAR, the rules need to be tweaked to avoid scenarios where players get injured because there’s whistle hasn’t blown up. From a spectator point of view, it’s jarring watching them play on when even we can see it’s offside.
Sorry I mean if they are clearly offside it should be flagged it’s only where it’s tight and play should play outEveryone knows that’s the rule so people can’t criticising the match officials or VAR for that per se.
The debate here is whether or not that rule should change because there’s been significant incidents that put player welfare at risk.
I’m sure Van Dijk done his ACL in a similar incident.
The rule makers are ruining what is a very simple game with unwieldy laws to shoehorn in the tech IMO.Everyone knows that’s the rule so people can’t criticising the match officials or VAR for that per se.
The debate here is whether or not that rule should change because there’s been significant incidents that put player welfare at risk.
I’m sure Van Dijk done his ACL in a similar incident.
The rule makers are ruining what is a very simple game with unwieldy laws to shoehorn in the tech IMO.
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