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Tactically - Lampard is pretty good (1 Viewer)

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covcity4life

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  • Yesterday at 10:24 PM
  • #211
I've always been in the camp that we wernt playing that badly. Going ahead and then having lapses does indicate a better team than one that goes behind first and loses all time. I didn't bedwet and now things look better. It was what I expected.

People can say it's a terrible run etc but if you look at 2025 league form it's 3 wins 2 losses 1 draw? So for 6 weeks the form hasn't been too bad at all yet all we have heard is relegation form, will doug sack frank, is lampard good tactically, bottlers etc

It's not a gotcha or anything. I just feel like what I said made sense and it's proven to have gone the way I thought.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 10:27 PM
  • #212
covcity4life said:
I've always been in the camp that we wernt playing that badly. Going ahead and then having lapses does indicate a better team than one that goes behind first and loses all time. I didn't bedwet and now things look better. It was what I expected.

People can say it's a terrible run etc but if you look at 2025 league form it's 3 wins 2 losses 1 draw? So for 6 weeks the form hasn't been too bad at all yet all we have heard is relegation form, will doug sack frank, is lampard good tactically, bottlers etc

It's not a gotcha or anything. I just feel like what I said made sense and it's proven to have gone the way I thought.
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15 points in 13 games is poor form
 
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covcity4life

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  • Yesterday at 10:29 PM
  • #213
Ccfcisparks said:
15 points in 13 games is poor form
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It is. But I never thought we were playing terrible that's all. Only a few games where I did.
 
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quinn1971

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  • Yesterday at 10:30 PM
  • #214
clint van damme said:
I'm not sure how anyone else sees that as some sort of positive
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Just saying, some on here have been quick enough to jump on Lampard for tactics when he’s done the best with what he’s got, could of quite easily just set up not to lose against mboro and today, he didn’t , shows some bollocks that does, got It spot on the last 2 games
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Yesterday at 10:36 PM
  • #215
Ccfcisparks said:
we got 15 points in 13 games. it was not exaggerated at all
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It is exaggerated though because it is compared with a run of unbelievable and unsustainable form
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 10:37 PM
  • #216
fernandopartridge said:
It is exaggerated though because it is compared with a run of unbelievable and unsustainable form
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well isolating just those games ignoring previous form it’s relegation form in those 13 games
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Yesterday at 10:41 PM
  • #217
Ccfcisparks said:
well isolating just those games ignoring previous form it’s relegation form in those 13 games
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The last two games are automatic promotion form, and more importantly the last 33 are.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 10:42 PM
  • #218
fernandopartridge said:
The last two games are automatic promotion form, and more importantly the last 33 are.
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not really the point though is it.

You said people were exaggerating the poor form. they weren’t. statistically it was relegation form
 
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Chris1987

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  • Yesterday at 10:43 PM
  • #219
covcity4life said:
It is. But I never thought we were playing terrible that's all. Only a few games where I did.
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In all honesty we were terrible in a few games and not very good at all in a good few others. Something needed to change tactically and it looks as though it has.
 
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quinn1971

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  • Yesterday at 10:45 PM
  • #220
covcity4life said:
I've always been in the camp that we wernt playing that badly. Going ahead and then having lapses does indicate a better team than one that goes behind first and loses all time. I didn't bedwet and now things look better. It was what I expected.

People can say it's a terrible run etc but if you look at 2025 league form it's 3 wins 2 losses 1 draw? So for 6 weeks the form hasn't been too bad at all yet all we have heard is relegation form, will doug sack frank, is lampard good tactically, bottlers etc

It's not a gotcha or anything. I just feel like what I said made sense and it's proven to have gone the way I thought.
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Spot on , don’t think we realise the pressure we’ve been under for the last 4 months, it’s been relentless, with players who aren’t used to it, we were written off 2 weeks ago, we’d bottled it, weren’t up to it, look how it’s affected mboro,they were top for a week, wev‘e turned it around in 2 games, brilliant
 
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quinn1971

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  • Yesterday at 10:48 PM
  • #221
Ccfcisparks said:
not really the point though is it.

You said people were exaggerating the poor form. they weren’t. statistically it was relegation form
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It wasn’t though was it,we were only struggling away by the odd goal, not like we were getting turned over every week, Lampard saw what we needed and we’ve fixed it,
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 10:49 PM
  • #222
quinn1971 said:
It wasn’t though was it,we were only struggling away by the odd goal, not like we were getting turned over every week, Lampard saw what we needed and we’ve fixed it,
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it was just over 1 point a game. that is relegation form it literally cannot be argued
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Yesterday at 10:56 PM
  • #223
covcity4life said:
I've always been in the camp that we wernt playing that badly. Going ahead and then having lapses does indicate a better team than one that goes behind first and loses all time. I didn't bedwet and now things look better. It was what I expected.

People can say it's a terrible run etc but if you look at 2025 league form it's 3 wins 2 losses 1 draw? So for 6 weeks the form hasn't been too bad at all yet all we have heard is relegation form, will doug sack frank, is lampard good tactically, bottlers etc

It's not a gotcha or anything. I just feel like what I said made sense and it's proven to have gone the way I thought.
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We've had our slump and got over it, maybe Boro and Ipswich are just starting theirs??
 
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Skyblueabo1111

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  • Yesterday at 10:57 PM
  • #224
TomRad85 said:
Feeling called out?
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No, the opposite Tom, as admitted,by you.
TomRad85 said:
Feeling called out?
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quinn1971

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  • Yesterday at 10:57 PM
  • #225
Ccfcisparks said:
it was just over 1 point a game. that is relegation form it literally cannot be argued
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Relegation form would be losing at home as well, you don’t get relegated having the best home form in the league, think,that’s what people were forgetting, and if you watch the QPR and Norwich games again we weren’t even that bad, just silly mistakes, look what happens when you cut them out, we Were never playing like a team in relegation form
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 10:58 PM
  • #226
quinn1971 said:
Relegation form would be losing at home as well, you don’t get relegated having the best home form in the league, think,that’s what people were forgetting, and if you watch the QPR and Norwich games again we weren’t even that bad, just silly mistakes, look what happens when you cut them out, we Were never playing like a team in relegation form
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you get relegated on 1 point a game average which i what we had for those 13 games
 

TomRad85

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  • Yesterday at 10:58 PM
  • #227
Lampard did a remarkable job to get us into that position (as well as what he did last season.) Its quite clear we were running out of steam a bit, he needed to be backed by King in Jan, particularly with a player in the Onyeka profile. Thankfully he was and we are starting to purr again.
I'm not saying don't get frustrated at poor form, that's just being a fan, but some of the bollocks aimed at Frank was, well, bollocks.
 
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wingy

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  • Yesterday at 11:11 PM
  • #228
fernandopartridge said:
The longest run we've had without a win is three games, this "fall off" is an exaggeration and ignores the great form shown by Middlesbrough particularly and Ipswich in that period.

Our record breaking form was never realistically going to continue indefinitely, a lot of people on here were saying in early December they'd be pleased to still be top by the turn of the year. We were, and we were still top by the end of January.
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Middle of February.
 

RoysterE17

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  • Yesterday at 11:12 PM
  • #229
Looking now though dont anybody feel the slump in performances was potentially avoidable? Just even the past 2 games I feel the players have been told to hold back abit and it seemed to of worked wonders! Also the singing of onyeka has been key
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Yesterday at 11:14 PM
  • #230
RoysterE17 said:
Looking now though dont anybodyfeel the slump in performances was potentially avoidable? Just even the past 2 games I feel the players have been told to hold back abit and it seemed to of worked wonders! Also the singing of odyeka has been key
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He’s got a lovely tenor voice to be fair
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Yesterday at 11:19 PM
  • #231
Ccfcisparks said:
not really the point though is it.

You said people were exaggerating the poor form. they weren’t. statistically it was relegation form
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The point LG was trying to make that Lampard isn't good tactically based on cherry picking of an at worse indifferent period of form which he exaggerated to be worse than it really was. Further to that, in doing so also ignoring that Lampard got the team into record breaking form in the first place.
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Yesterday at 11:19 PM
  • #232
Ccfcisparks said:
you get relegated on 1 point a game average which i what we had for those 13 games
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You're so much more likable when you're not being a troll
 
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Skybluekyle

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  • Yesterday at 11:21 PM
  • #233
quinn1971 said:
Relegation form would be losing at home as well, you don’t get relegated having the best home form in the league, think,that’s what people were forgetting, and if you watch the QPR and Norwich games again we weren’t even that bad, just silly mistakes, look what happens when you cut them out, we Were never playing like a team in relegation form
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This is pretty much where I was/am at. We were still creating chances and good stuff was happening, even in games we weren't playing particularly well.

Just look at Norwich, we had two great chances before Norwich got the winner, it could easily had been the reverse scoreline. That is not to say we would have deserved to win, we probably wouldn't have on the balance of things, but much more encouraging than if we were creating nothing and losing 2-0 or 3-0.

Hopefully we've got a bit of form back, and not the worst time to get it back either. Going to be a cracking final few games. I think I said before, we're closer than we think!
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 11:27 PM
  • #234
Perennial Lurker said:
You're so much more likable when you're not being a troll
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What is trolling about stating the facts
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Yesterday at 11:27 PM
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