Tactically - Lampard is pretty good (1 Viewer)

[covcity4life]

I've always been in the camp that we wernt playing that badly. Going ahead and then having lapses does indicate a better team than one that goes behind first and loses all time. I didn't bedwet and now things look better. It was what I expected.

People can say it's a terrible run etc but if you look at 2025 league form it's 3 wins 2 losses 1 draw? So for 6 weeks the form hasn't been too bad at all yet all we have heard is relegation form, will doug sack frank, is lampard good tactically, bottlers etc

It's not a gotcha or anything. I just feel like what I said made sense and it's proven to have gone the way I thought.

 

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[Ccfcisparks]

I've always been in the camp that we wernt playing that badly. Going ahead and then having lapses does indicate a better team than one that goes behind first and loses all time. I didn't bedwet and now things look better. It was what I expected.

People can say it's a terrible run etc but if you look at 2025 league form it's 3 wins 2 losses 1 draw? So for 6 weeks the form hasn't been too bad at all yet all we have heard is relegation form, will doug sack frank, is lampard good tactically, bottlers etc

It's not a gotcha or anything. I just feel like what I said made sense and it's proven to have gone the way I thought.

15 points in 13 games is poor form

 

[covcity4life]

15 points in 13 games is poor form

It is. But I never thought we were playing terrible that's all. Only a few games where I did.

 

[quinn1971]

I'm not sure how anyone else sees that as some sort of positive

Just saying, some on here have been quick enough to jump on Lampard for tactics when he’s done the best with what he’s got, could of quite easily just set up not to lose against mboro and today, he didn’t , shows some bollocks that does, got It spot on the last 2 games

 

[fernandopartridge]

we got 15 points in 13 games. it was not exaggerated at all

It is exaggerated though because it is compared with a run of unbelievable and unsustainable form

 

[Ccfcisparks]

It is exaggerated though because it is compared with a run of unbelievable and unsustainable form

well isolating just those games ignoring previous form it’s relegation form in those 13 games

 

[fernandopartridge]

well isolating just those games ignoring previous form it’s relegation form in those 13 games

The last two games are automatic promotion form, and more importantly the last 33 are.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

The last two games are automatic promotion form, and more importantly the last 33 are.

not really the point though is it.

You said people were exaggerating the poor form. they weren’t. statistically it was relegation form

 

[Chris1987]

It is. But I never thought we were playing terrible that's all. Only a few games where I did.

In all honesty we were terrible in a few games and not very good at all in a good few others. Something needed to change tactically and it looks as though it has.

 

[quinn1971]

I've always been in the camp that we wernt playing that badly. Going ahead and then having lapses does indicate a better team than one that goes behind first and loses all time. I didn't bedwet and now things look better. It was what I expected.

People can say it's a terrible run etc but if you look at 2025 league form it's 3 wins 2 losses 1 draw? So for 6 weeks the form hasn't been too bad at all yet all we have heard is relegation form, will doug sack frank, is lampard good tactically, bottlers etc

It's not a gotcha or anything. I just feel like what I said made sense and it's proven to have gone the way I thought.

Spot on , don’t think we realise the pressure we’ve been under for the last 4 months, it’s been relentless, with players who aren’t used to it, we were written off 2 weeks ago, we’d bottled it, weren’t up to it, look how it’s affected mboro,they were top for a week, wev‘e turned it around in 2 games, brilliant

 

[quinn1971]

not really the point though is it.

You said people were exaggerating the poor form. they weren’t. statistically it was relegation form

It wasn’t though was it,we were only struggling away by the odd goal, not like we were getting turned over every week, Lampard saw what we needed and we’ve fixed it,

 

[Ccfcisparks]

It wasn’t though was it,we were only struggling away by the odd goal, not like we were getting turned over every week, Lampard saw what we needed and we’ve fixed it,

it was just over 1 point a game. that is relegation form it literally cannot be argued

 

[robbiethemole]

I've always been in the camp that we wernt playing that badly. Going ahead and then having lapses does indicate a better team than one that goes behind first and loses all time. I didn't bedwet and now things look better. It was what I expected.

People can say it's a terrible run etc but if you look at 2025 league form it's 3 wins 2 losses 1 draw? So for 6 weeks the form hasn't been too bad at all yet all we have heard is relegation form, will doug sack frank, is lampard good tactically, bottlers etc

It's not a gotcha or anything. I just feel like what I said made sense and it's proven to have gone the way I thought.

We've had our slump and got over it, maybe Boro and Ipswich are just starting theirs??

 

[Skyblueabo1111]

Feeling called out?

No, the opposite Tom, as admitted,by you.

Feeling called out?

 

[quinn1971]

it was just over 1 point a game. that is relegation form it literally cannot be argued

Relegation form would be losing at home as well, you don’t get relegated having the best home form in the league, think,that’s what people were forgetting, and if you watch the QPR and Norwich games again we weren’t even that bad, just silly mistakes, look what happens when you cut them out, we Were never playing like a team in relegation form

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Relegation form would be losing at home as well, you don’t get relegated having the best home form in the league, think,that’s what people were forgetting, and if you watch the QPR and Norwich games again we weren’t even that bad, just silly mistakes, look what happens when you cut them out, we Were never playing like a team in relegation form

you get relegated on 1 point a game average which i what we had for those 13 games

 

[TomRad85]

Lampard did a remarkable job to get us into that position (as well as what he did last season.) Its quite clear we were running out of steam a bit, he needed to be backed by King in Jan, particularly with a player in the Onyeka profile. Thankfully he was and we are starting to purr again.
I'm not saying don't get frustrated at poor form, that's just being a fan, but some of the bollocks aimed at Frank was, well, bollocks.

 

[wingy]

The longest run we've had without a win is three games, this "fall off" is an exaggeration and ignores the great form shown by Middlesbrough particularly and Ipswich in that period.

Our record breaking form was never realistically going to continue indefinitely, a lot of people on here were saying in early December they'd be pleased to still be top by the turn of the year. We were, and we were still top by the end of January.

Middle of February.

 

[RoysterE17]

Looking now though dont anybody feel the slump in performances was potentially avoidable? Just even the past 2 games I feel the players have been told to hold back abit and it seemed to of worked wonders! Also the singing of onyeka has been key

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Looking now though dont anybodyfeel the slump in performances was potentially avoidable? Just even the past 2 games I feel the players have been told to hold back abit and it seemed to of worked wonders! Also the singing of odyeka has been key

He’s got a lovely tenor voice to be fair

 

[fernandopartridge]

not really the point though is it.

You said people were exaggerating the poor form. they weren’t. statistically it was relegation form

The point LG was trying to make that Lampard isn't good tactically based on cherry picking of an at worse indifferent period of form which he exaggerated to be worse than it really was. Further to that, in doing so also ignoring that Lampard got the team into record breaking form in the first place.

 

[Perennial Lurker]

you get relegated on 1 point a game average which i what we had for those 13 games

You're so much more likable when you're not being a troll

 

[Skybluekyle]

Relegation form would be losing at home as well, you don’t get relegated having the best home form in the league, think,that’s what people were forgetting, and if you watch the QPR and Norwich games again we weren’t even that bad, just silly mistakes, look what happens when you cut them out, we Were never playing like a team in relegation form

This is pretty much where I was/am at. We were still creating chances and good stuff was happening, even in games we weren't playing particularly well.

Just look at Norwich, we had two great chances before Norwich got the winner, it could easily had been the reverse scoreline. That is not to say we would have deserved to win, we probably wouldn't have on the balance of things, but much more encouraging than if we were creating nothing and losing 2-0 or 3-0.

Hopefully we've got a bit of form back, and not the worst time to get it back either. Going to be a cracking final few games. I think I said before, we're closer than we think!

 

[Ccfcisparks]

You're so much more likable when you're not being a troll

What is trolling about stating the facts

 

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[Liquid Gold]

The point LG was trying to make that Lampard isn't good tactically based on cherry picking of an at worse indifferent period of form which he exaggerated to be worse than it really was. Further to that, in doing so also ignoring that Lampard got the team into record breaking form in the first place.

My position is that Lampard has done incredibly well overall but we went through such a terrible spell I’m remaining cautious.

You may disagree on our winter form but for me it was nowhere near good enough and performances neither.

If we have turned a corner and maintain it to the end of the season then I will agree he’s done fantastically well. I’m not prepared to do that after two games.

The lead we had it would be unprecedented for a team not to be promoted. He gets the plaudits for building that lead but he also has to take criticism for squandering it.

Basically, I need an extended period of good form to be sure that our poor performances are over.

I don’t think it’s a biggie, we both want him to succeed. You’re just more certain than I am.

 

[Sick Boy]

The calls for him to be sacked were beyond ridiculous.

 

[covcity4life]

I saw posts saying lampard doing what expected with cov 1st and sack him if he fails

Whilst saying robins doing a good job at stoke

This all comes down to being the manager to take on directly from robins and if people were honest they would admit it.

 

[Skyblueabo1111]

If he can learn, then so can you (maybe).

About what? Just replying to a post

 

[Calista]

Anyone else think it wasn't necessary to wait for the recruitment of Onyeka before tweaking the tactics? IMO Eccles would be capable of providing similar support for Grimes, and if Onyeka becomes unavailable that's exactly what I'd do. Quite strange to me that Lampard only ever seems to want to play Josh further forward.

 

[mrtrench]

My wife made the point that flu has a long full recovery time. The extreme symptoms may go in a couple of weeks but one is sub par for a long period after that.

Could this be a factor in the loss of form? The flu outbreak was in December. Are we now winning again because finally the players are back to full fitness?

 

[fernandopartridge]

I saw posts saying lampard doing what expected with cov 1st and sack him if he fails

Whilst saying robins doing a good job at stoke

This all comes down to being the manager to take on directly from robins and if people were honest they would admit it.

It's also the general antipathy English football fans have towards any decorated player becoming a manager.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Anyone else think it wasn't necessary to wait for the recruitment of Onyeka before tweaking the tactics? IMO Eccles would be capable of proving similar support for Grimes, and if Onyeka becomes unavailable that's exactly what I'd do. Quite strange to me that Lampard only ever seems to want to play Josh further forward.

But he did tweak them in that Oxford game when Onyeka wasn't playing. The change would have happened regardless, Onyeka will just help to execute it better.

 

[Skyblueabo1111]

Feeling called out?

Perhaps you can restart your Simms and Assante are shite thread? Just a thought.

 

[TomRad85]

Perhaps you can restart your Simms and Assante are shite thread? Just a thought.

Luckily I don't need to argue with you any more as most people seem to have noticed you are a clown since you started posting more. I thought you were one of those drips who hated any player who's been shite for ages being called out when you nearly pissed your pants over Simms getting stick. Turns out you are just related to Simms as you seem to have no issue with our top scorer being called a "waste of oxygen" and you seem to love joining in pile ons about a manager who has frankly been phenomenal for us.
You are one of the most clueless and easily rattled members of this forum and that is saying something.

Maybe I should start a thread with your name in the title dedicated to the absolute shite you've posted about Wright and Lampard?