Super Bowl in London (7 Viewers)

DT-R

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'There's no doubt' - Premier League stadium 'set to host the Super Bowl' as NFL decision made | The Sun 'There's no doubt' - Premier League stadium 'set to host the Super Bowl'

This shows exactly what US sports franchises think to their sports and their fans. And exactly the reason why so many American owners is a dangerous thing.

Could you imagine the FA Cup final being played in America? I mean, Wagner is already talking about playing hone games in the US. Its just ridiculous really.

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SBT

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It is extremely unlikely to ever happen for the simple reason that the Super Bowl will only ever be played at an early evening time slot on the east coast, and you wouldn’t be able to stage an event that large that doesn’t start until almost midnight.
 

SBT

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That being said, of all the NFL games in any given season, the Super Bowl would probably be the one game that American fans would be least bothered to see go overseas, given that it’s always held in a different city every year anyway.
 

LastGarrison

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I flew out to Nashville on Monday afternoon and there were a good few Yanks on board who were returning having just flown over for the game.

I was listening to them chatting to each other when we were getting off the plane and it just doesn’t phase them!

There is none of the tribalism or history connected to their teams that we have. They are used to franchise sports teams moving around the country and most of all they get the monetising side of sport which we just don’t!

Regardless of what we think, the Yanks see sports teams in a completely different way to us.
 

shmmeee

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Huh? Of course there is.

Not really is there?

I mean when we were formed they were still shooting injuns
 

SBT

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Not really is there?

I mean when we were formed they were still shooting injuns
When we formed, there were Major League Baseball teams that had already been in operation for more than a decade.

American sports are consumed with history. They fawn over past players and teams with Halls of Fame, retired numbers etc in ways that football has only started to copy relatively recently.
 

chiefdave

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Was hoping for a wrestlemania to be honest
Think there's far more chance of that than the Super Bowl tbh. Khan seems to be actively working to bring Wrestlemania to London.

Can't see the Super Bowl ever happening here. Bad enough we have regular season games. I can kind of understand NBA, MLB and NHL having regular season games here. Those leagues have 41, 81 and 41 home game respectively. The number of full season ticket holders tends to be pretty low as they are insanely expensive.

NFL is a whole different thing, its 8 or 9 games a season at home. Not really sure we should be taking regular season games here unless they want to take the plunge and actually have a London based team which has been rumoured in the past. Certainly shouldn't be looking at taking play off games or the Super Bowl itself.

As for the 'imagine if it was the FA Cup' I can 100% see the FA coming up with the idea of having the FA Cup final in the US or Saudi.
 

shmmeee

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When we formed, there were Major League Baseball teams that had already been in operation for more than a decade.

American sports are consumed with history. They fawn over past players and teams with Halls of Fame, retired numbers etc in ways that football has only started to copy relatively recently.

That’s more about americas deification of the individual though and their celebrity culture than a fan culture. The celebrate greatness, but the fan culture and rivalry isn’t on the same level come on. Just the nature of the country’s geography means that.
 

Ccfcisparks

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Hmm...can trace my family all the way back to 1654 and the Cotswold's and Cheltenham and am good old, proper English.

Love the NFL and think it's bloody brilliant. Best sport in the world, for me
best sport in the world WTF
 

rob9872

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Think there's far more chance of that than the Super Bowl tbh. Khan seems to be actively working to bring Wrestlemania to London.

Can't see the Super Bowl ever happening here. Bad enough we have regular season games. I can kind of understand NBA, MLB and NHL having regular season games here. Those leagues have 41, 81 and 41 home game respectively. The number of full season ticket holders tends to be pretty low as they are insanely expensive.

NFL is a whole different thing, its 8 or 9 games a season at home. Not really sure we should be taking regular season games here unless they want to take the plunge and actually have a London based team which has been rumoured in the past. Certainly shouldn't be looking at taking play off games or the Super Bowl itself.

As for the 'imagine if it was the FA Cup' I can 100% see the FA coming up with the idea of having the FA Cup final in the US or Saudi.

Don't forget though the NFL went from 16 regular season games to 17, so all of these overseas games at Tottenham and in Ireland / Germany etc are an extra,. Arguably it's only to generate worldwide interest and more revenue, but the local fans don't lose out. I can see it happening with the Premier League and a game week 39 where there is an extra round of fixtures that are played across America and Asia. Most likely will start with a trial of something like Birmingham v Wrexham then it's a slippery slope.
 

SBT

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That’s more about americas deification of the individual though and their celebrity culture than a fan culture. The celebrate greatness, but the fan culture and rivalry isn’t on the same level come on. Just the nature of the country’s geography means that.
I didn’t say it was the same level as ours (however we’re choosing to measure that), but to say they have “none of the tribalism or history” is ridiculous.
 

shmmeee

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I didn’t say it was the same level as ours (however we’re choosing to measure that), but to say they have “none of the tribalism or history” is ridiculous.

I’m not sure how having a hall of fame is tribalism. UK and Euro football is like it is because it’s a small densely packed continent with thousands of years of history behind all the interrelations. The US is just nothing like that. The entire sports culture is different.
 

SBT

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I’m not sure how having a hall of fame is tribalism. UK and Euro football is like it is because it’s a small densely packed continent with thousands of years of history behind all the interrelations. The US is just nothing like that. The entire sports culture is different.
A Hall of Fame isn’t tribalism, it’s history.

The US sports culture is obviously different from UK sports culture (is different from Spanish etc etc) but rest assured, there is plenty of history and tribalism to be found.
 

Otis

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It will happen have we learnt nothing about progress
Not sure it will, Pete. Not unless there is a stadium. With a roof that closes.

Most Super Bowls are played either in a warm-climate area stadium, or under a dome.

Until that happened here, I just can't see it.
 

Otis

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best sport in the world WTF
Definitely. 100%. For me, anyway.

NFL, then football.

Then I don't mind a bit of cricket, rugby, tennis and golf. But those all have to be major occasions, such as the Ashes, the Ryder Cup, Six Nations, or Wimbledon etc.
 

shmmeee

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A Hall of Fame isn’t tribalism, it’s history.

The US sports culture is obviously different from UK sports culture (is different from Spanish etc etc) but rest assured, there is plenty of history and tribalism to be found.

But not on the scale of “my ancestors nicked your land 1000 years ago”

What US rivalry has the tribalism and history is the Old Firm or El Classico games? In fact which rivalries even go beyond sporting terms? From what I’ve seen it’s mostly the modern PL style “top clubs” type rivalry.
 

DT-R

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Not sure it will, Pete. Not unless there is a stadium. With a roof that closes.

Most Super Bowls are played either in a warm-climate area stadium, or under a dome.

Until that happened here, I just can't see it.
Cardiff?

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SBT

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But not on the scale of “my ancestors nicked your land 1000 years ago”

What US rivalry has the tribalism and history is the Old Firm or El Classico games? In fact which rivalries even go beyond sporting terms? From what I’ve seen it’s mostly the modern PL style “top clubs” type rivalry.
I’m not sure any US rivalries do go that deep, but I never claimed they did!

There are very few sporting rivalries anywhere that aren’t mostly modern constructions these days anyway imo (which is fine)
 

TomRad85

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Hmm...can trace my family all the way back to 1654 and the Cotswold's and Cheltenham and am good old, proper English.

Love the NFL and think it's bloody brilliant. Best sport in the world, for me
NFL best sport in the world is legit the worst thing ever said on this forum. Should be an instant ban @Nick
 

ovduk78

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Definitely. 100%. For me, anyway.

NFL, then football.

Then I don't mind a bit of cricket, rugby, tennis and golf. But those all have to be major occasions, such as the Ashes, the Ryder Cup, Six Nations, or Wimbledon etc.
Fuck sake @Otis you'll be saying Friends is the greatest comedy series ever next 😉
 

rob9872

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Friends has it's moments (mostly around Chandler), but the US, even their remakes, aren't even close to UK comedy. Really don't find any of their other sitcoms funny, not even the revered Cheers etc.

Porridge, Inbetweeners, After Life, Phoenix Nights, Blackadder (apart from first series) would be my top 5. Friends possibly squeezes into the top 10.
 

ovduk78

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Friends has it's moments (mostly around Chandler), but the US, even their remakes, aren't even close to UK comedy. Really don't find any of their other sitcoms funny, not even the revered Cheers etc.

Porridge, Inbetweeners, After Life, Phoenix Nights, Blackadder (apart from first series) would be my top 5. Friends possibly squeezes into the top 10.
Dad's Army, Fawlty Towers, Vicar of Dibley, Rising Damp would all see Friends out of the top 10. My favourite US comedy series was Soap from late 70s/early 80s
 

Otis

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Friends has it's moments (mostly around Chandler), but the US, even their remakes, aren't even close to UK comedy. Really don't find any of their other sitcoms funny, not even the revered Cheers etc.

Porridge, Inbetweeners, After Life, Phoenix Nights, Blackadder (apart from first series) would be my top 5. Friends possibly squeezes into the top 10.
Frasier is better than Friends
 

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