Striker Stats

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  1. harvey098

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    LEAGUE ONLY (THIS SEASON ONLY)

    BAKAYOKO
    Goals scored: 4
    Minutes per goal: 168
    Number of shots: 17
    Shots on target percentage: 47%

    GODDEN
    Goals scored: 4
    Minutes per goal: 249
    Number of shots: 25
    Shots on target percentage: 52%

    HIWULA
    Goals scored: 4
    Minutes per goal: 315
    Number of shots: 24
    Shots on target percentage: 46%

    BIAMOU
    Goals scored: 1
    Minutes per goal: 267
    Number of shots: 7
    Shots on target percentage: 71%

    (Stats taken from BBC Sport)
     
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    And your point is ?????
     
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    4 painfully average strikers?
     
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    Anyone surprised mcnulty hasn't scored more with Sunderland?

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    There’s more to a strikers game than these stats people keep banging on about
     
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    They play him in a number 10 role or off the bench
     
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    No not really. His most at this level is 9
     
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    Painful, hopefully they wake up
     
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    Amazing Harvey now admits our strikers are rubbish
     
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    Also I don’t think it’s just league is it? They only exclude the stupid cup we were in the other night
     
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    Godden 25 shots 4 goals is poor for £750k said to be prolific
     
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    NO THERE ISN’T!!!
     
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    I’m not sure you can look at that stat in isolation and make a judgement as it doesn’t account for how many were true goalscoring opportunities
     
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    If that was the case Baka would be first choice
     
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    I mean there clearly is... Firmino is widely (and rightly lauded) as a top rate centre forward yet his goal tally of 51 in 148 for Liverpool in the league is hardly prolific. That's not to say I think our specific strikers offer much more/less than their goal tallies suggest but to rate strikers based purely on their goal tallies isn't accurate.
     
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    I wasn't trying to make a point, I just found it interesting.
     
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    Where did I say that? It is pretty much exactly what I would expect from league 1 strikers. You have unrealistic expectations mate, lower them and you'll be less angry all the time.
     
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    Ah yeah, I think you're right.
     
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    How do Peterborough strikers compare?
     
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    Listen mate, no fucker EVER mentions Allan Shearer, and talks about the throw ins he’s taken, or the players he’s marked at corners, or the tackles he’s put in on the half way line!
    Strikers are all about goals, nothing but goals, goals are what they are bought in to score, and goals are what they are judged on, nothing more than goals, nothing less than goals, Goals matter, goals win matches, it’s all about goals !!! End of, Period.





    GOALS!
     
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    Right now, He is!
     
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    You're right - no-one does ever talk about Allan Shearer ;)
     
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    You mean like Cyrille?
     
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    It is quite worrying that you have to go down to 34th to find a Cov player in the top scorers list in the league and it’s not as if the goals are being shared majorly around the park as well with the rest of the top 6 out scoring us by at least 5
     
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    Don’t be silly - all league 1 strikers are the same
     
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    About the same.

    Shot on target percentage:
    Ivan Toney 47% -- Bakayoko 47%

    Shots to goals percentage:
    Ivan Toney 4.58% -- Bakayoko 4.25%

    So in terms of out and out finishing they are pretty much equal. I obviously only see Toney in highlights (plus the full match from when we played Peterborough) and obviously I'd much prefer to have Toney in my team than Bakayoko.

    What is interesting is Toney has had 55 shots compared to Bakayoko's 17. He has played well over twice the minutes of Bakayoko. What the stats don't show is how many of those shots are opportunities that hes made himself that Bakayoko couldn't have made and that would probably be a more telling stat but in terms of actually shooting they are about equal.
     
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    More to do with the minutes played. We've been sharing the position of one central striker for most of the season. Bakayoko played 673 minutes. Godden played 995 minutes. Biamou played 267 minutes. Compared with the top scorer playing 1513 minutes.
     
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    We’ve had to share it because there hasn’t been a stand out one and because of injuries - not because we’ve got three really good options. Madden has 10 in less minutes than Godden and Forrs of Wimbledon has 7 in less minutes than both Bakayoko and Godden.
     
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    So you think the two strikers are comparable in quality and ability?
     
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    No. I think Toney is a better all round player from the small bits I have seen of him.
     
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    Humphrys of Southend has 5 goals too and they’ve won 1 game all season - 834 minutes
     
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    On the stats measure you’ve used Adam Le Fondre is the sixth best forward in the premier league
     
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    Humprhys would not be a bad shout actually in January - has only just turned 22 so fits our model, can play on the wing as well as up front and will surely want out of Southend
     
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    How did you get to that? If I was measuring a player purely on their finishing stats then I wouldn't have said Toney is a better all round player than Bakayoko. Finishing is only part of a strikers game.

    To be honest Grendel, I can't even remember my point. I don't even rate Bakayoko! I got bored and bogged down in stats. Have a good evening you grumpy bastard ;-)
     
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