Match Thread Stoke City (1 Viewer)

stay_up_skyblues · Dec 21, 2020

steve101 said:
I would give O'Hare a rest from starting and put Bapaga alongside Biamou. He is young and unproven but obviously has talent and likes to run at people. He has nothing to lose. If he is struggling O'Hare can come off the bench when Stoke are hopefully tiring and then utilise the space that he isn't finding when starting.
I also wonder about Hilssner starting as AM. I would hope by now that he is over his health issue and his fitness is much improved. He looked technically good and able to provide from set-pieces. He scored for U23s from one. I would prefer to give him a go than Shipley who has been given ample opportunities.

Thing is, with O’Hare, you get the pressing/chasing down and occasional successful tackle. He’s a bit of a rare AM in that sense and that work is fairly crucial for us, particularly with Kelly out and one of Allen or Shipley having to play DM. He’s a manager’s dream really.

I really want to see Bapaga given a run but not at the expense of COH, although the kid does look in need of a rest. The week off before the next game will hopefully help in that regard.

If we are two up top then Bapaga could easily play in place of Baka who offers the square root of fuck all.

no_loyalty · Dec 21, 2020

aloisiwouldhavescored said:
U23s play Sheff Wed at Alan Higgs tomorrow Monday 21st December, could perhaps give him a run out then, if only for 45 mins?

Game called off due to waterlogged pitch.

Deleted member 9744 · Dec 21, 2020

Jamesimus said:
Allen did really well against Sheff Wednesday in the defensive mid position. If not the best, one of the best on the pitch.

Is it just me that didn't think Allen was that good against Sheffield Wednesday? He started ok but seemed largely anonymous to me. I thought Sheaf was much better

cc84cov · Dec 21, 2020

Deleted member 9744 said:
Is it just me that didn't think Allen was that good against Sheffield Wednesday? He started ok but seemed largely anonymous to me. I thought Sheaf was much better

Allen was the best player on the pitch for me

Magwitch · Dec 21, 2020

It’s become fashionable to knock Allen think someone Saturday knocked him after just ten minutes. I thought he played okay and as usual worked his nuts off.

Jamesimus · Dec 21, 2020

Deleted member 9744 said:
Is it just me that didn't think Allen was that good against Sheffield Wednesday? He started ok but seemed largely anonymous to me. I thought Sheaf was much better

I think Sheaf had a decent game too and was one our better players on the day, albeit with a few more errors in possession than Allen. General consensus seems to be Allen had a good game, probably because he did haha.

Don't get me wrong, I haven't rated Allen this season and when he's played I've mainly seen him in the other attacking midfield spot, where he seems to get tackled or pushed off the ball easily and probably doesn't get as much time. He seemed to have a lot more time on the ball on Saturday.

Deleted member 9744 · Dec 21, 2020

Magwitch said:
It’s become fashionable to knock Allen think someone Saturday knocked him after just ten minutes. I thought he played okay and as usual worked his nuts off.

I am not one to knock players and he played ok. But no way was he one of the best players. I would say all three central defendrs and Sheaf were far better and others too

shmmeee · Dec 21, 2020

Allen was a good poor man’s Hamer on Saturday. That said I thought Sheaf was excellent.

Frostie · Dec 21, 2020

shmmeee said:
Allen was a good poor man’s Hamer on Saturday. That said I thought Sheaf was excellent.

Correct but because they're disliked for no apparent reasons they get absolute pelters even when they play well. Meanwhile Biamou was dreadful & barely a mention.

skyblu3sk · Dec 22, 2020

I have this odd thing with COH at the moment every time he receives the ball I expect him to sprint past the defender but he rarely does... I think i have been completely overestimating his pace. Its like I see that build of player and just expect it or something.

lord_garrincha · Dec 23, 2020

Interesting that it is less than 3 years ago when this fixture was League 2 vs Premiership, and the national media were all over the upset.

Now some are talking it up as a 'we should win this' fixture.

KenilworthSkyBlue · Dec 23, 2020

I didn't realise Stoke were playing this evening against Spurs in the cup. Hopefully that will cause a few tired legs.

AOM · Dec 23, 2020

Got used to the two games a week now
Mid week feels empty without us playing and Saturday feels ages away

Brighton Sky Blue · Dec 23, 2020

AOM said:
Got used to the two games a week now
Mid week feels empty without us playing and Saturday feels ages away

Think the players really need the rest even if it’s just a few extra days. Someone keep Kasta away from the turkey though

AOM · Dec 23, 2020

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Think the players really need the rest even if it’s just a few extra days. Someone keep Kasta away from the turkey though

Extra pigs in blankets for Allen and O'Hare.
It's bulking season

cov donkey kick · Dec 23, 2020

Think it would be a good time to give Hillsner, decosta, bapaga some game time v Stoke and also Giles further forward.

SleepyGinger · Dec 23, 2020

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Dec 23, 2020

SleepyGinger said:

Shipley - 0

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

Johhny Blue · Dec 23, 2020

SleepyGinger said:

Where’s Shippers?

shmmeee · Dec 23, 2020

SleepyGinger said:

That’s cos his second touch is always a tackle

stay_up_skyblues · Dec 23, 2020

SleepyGinger said:

Drop him

Sky Blue Harry H · Dec 23, 2020

Stoke left back Morgan Fox just gone off with hamstring injury. Thank You. Keep them coming....

Mcbean · Dec 23, 2020

Johhny Blue said:
Where’s Shippers?

striker mate

Sky Blue Harry H · Dec 23, 2020

stay_up_skyblues said:
Drop him

Glad it isn't just me - he gets through a ridiculous amount of work, yet some just judge him on his creative side, when there is so much more to his game,

Jamesimus · Dec 23, 2020

Sky Blue Harry H said:
Glad it isn't just me - he gets through a ridiculous amount of work, yet some just judge him on his creative side, when there is so much more to his game,

This. It's absolutely mad, his Strava running times in lockdown astounded me.

Get him in Kellys position, now

In all seriousness though, even when he has what's regarded as a 'bad game', just the fact he has an incredible engine and capacity to run and chase everything helps the team so much.

Briles · Dec 24, 2020

Morgan Fox picked up an injury last night against Tottenham, hes Stokes only natural leftback. They played James Mclean as a wingback there yesterday and he did ok but might mean a formation change for our game.

skyblueelephant76 · Dec 24, 2020

Briles said:
Morgan Fox picked up an injury last night against Tottenham, hes Stokes only natural leftback. They played James Mclean as a wingback there yesterday and he did ok but might mean a formation change for our game.

They had Josh Tymon on the bench last night who plays left back

Briles · Dec 24, 2020

skyblueelephant76 said:
They had Josh Tymon on the bench last night who plays left back

Yeah hes a CB really but can cover

Sky Blue Harry H · Dec 24, 2020

Briles said:
Yeah hes a CB really but can cover

..but apart from McLean and Tymon, they haven't got anybody else...

Briles · Dec 24, 2020

Sky Blue Harry H said:
..but apart from McLean and Tymon, they haven't got anybody else...

I believe I said no natural left back....

skyblueelephant76 · Dec 24, 2020

Briles said:
Yeah hes a CB really but can cover

He's a leftback, even the Stoke City website has him listed as a fullback.

Briles · Dec 24, 2020

skyblueelephant76 said:
He's a leftback, even the Stoke City website has him listed as a fullback.

Have a read

Stoke City hit by left-back quandary after injury to Morgan Fox

Michael O’Neill is ready to welcome back key players but another has joined treatment room

www.stokesentinel.co.uk

SkyblueTexan · Dec 24, 2020

Stoke looked very impressive versus Spurs. Will be a very tough match.

johnwillomagic · Dec 24, 2020

I personally think as players will have had a weeks rest MR will not ring too many changes - will Godden start with Walker is my only question?
I think this is how MR will line up against Stoke below I would like Godden to start but do not think he will.

Wilson

Dabo Osti Fadz Hyam McCallum

Sheaf Hamer Allen

O'Hare

Waker

Subs: Camp, Pask, Giles, Shipley, Kastaneer, Jobello Biamou, Baka, Godden

Speedies_Chips · Dec 24, 2020

Stoke don't concede many and we don't score many. So that's half of the scoreline worked out!

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